I'm trying to save it for marriage, but being a teenage guy....
well lets just say its always up in the air.
well lets just say its always up in the air.
Virginity
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meh have all the sex you want. in fact if you have enough sex sperm kills other sperm so you wont get pregnant if you have sex with enough guys. so yeah have all the sex you want i mean you can even go around getting pregnant and trying to catch disease if thats what your into, just if it is the disease thing then tell people.
that being said i haven't had sex yet because i am fail at girls
that being said i haven't had sex yet because i am fail at girls
It's less useful than handiness or eye-color. Losing it doesn't (or at least shouldn't) change who you are, either you've had sex or not
no
plenty of people claim to be virgins and then shoot a porno to make money off it, knock yourself out
'bout as useful as Valentine's Day, just a way people make money off others
Depends on the person and their views of relationships, if they want to wait for that one person, power to them, if they want a new girl every night then there's really no reason to wait
no
plenty of people claim to be virgins and then shoot a porno to make money off it, knock yourself out
'bout as useful as Valentine's Day, just a way people make money off others
Depends on the person and their views of relationships, if they want to wait for that one person, power to them, if they want a new girl every night then there's really no reason to wait
Big deal/not: Not.
sacred/not sacred: Also not.
something that can be sold?(should it): Why not? It isn't a big deal, nor a sacred artifact.
Promise rings?(pointless/stupid/good): Promise whats? Like, marriage rings, or...?
should you wait till marriage, love, or any opportunity?: Wait until you are in close proximity to an applicable person who also wishes to instigate sexual proceedings. All of these factors must be positive- if not, I'd suggest masturbating instead.
In fact, screw it- I'd suggest masturbating anyway. Sex is only important because people think it is important because people think it is important because people and etc. Sure, it's fun and all, but it tends to leave a mess.
sacred/not sacred: Also not.
something that can be sold?(should it): Why not? It isn't a big deal, nor a sacred artifact.
Promise rings?(pointless/stupid/good): Promise whats? Like, marriage rings, or...?
should you wait till marriage, love, or any opportunity?: Wait until you are in close proximity to an applicable person who also wishes to instigate sexual proceedings. All of these factors must be positive- if not, I'd suggest masturbating instead.
In fact, screw it- I'd suggest masturbating anyway. Sex is only important because people think it is important because people think it is important because people and etc. Sure, it's fun and all, but it tends to leave a mess.
Marriage is a bit harsh, with over half of all marriages ending in divorce. Personally I think you should wait until you're older to marry. Love is a good answer, but sometimes people just want to get it over with, thinking it'll be akward and painful. Given enough time and build up, it can be sweet and enjoyable.CODE-D said:
this whole focus on virginity I supose is an outdated thing
I dont know for sure but I think a politician here in Aus might have said somthing along the lines of "Virginity is a gift..." I mean seriously what the fuck??how is virginity a gift?
and what ever "innocence" is its overrated
I dont know for sure but I think a politician here in Aus might have said somthing along the lines of "Virginity is a gift..." I mean seriously what the fuck??how is virginity a gift?
and what ever "innocence" is its overrated
-not a big deal.
-nothing is sacred.
-of course it can be sold. Whether or not it should is entirely up to the individual.
-promise what?
-marriage should be an entirely religious function. If you're religious, good on ya. Just don't push it on me, please (in other words: wait until marriage if you want, I'm never getting married and I love sex, so...)
...have sex when you and whoever else is involved want to. Any limitations on that are your own.
-nothing is sacred.
-of course it can be sold. Whether or not it should is entirely up to the individual.
-promise what?
-marriage should be an entirely religious function. If you're religious, good on ya. Just don't push it on me, please (in other words: wait until marriage if you want, I'm never getting married and I love sex, so...)
...have sex when you and whoever else is involved want to. Any limitations on that are your own.
It shouldnt be a big deal, and in some circumstances, if your scared to do it, dont.
In my case (sorry if this is too much info) but it was with my first girlfriend. We both had the disire to do it, but we both made sure it was a mutual thing. No pressure on either side. Must say, t'was good.
And If someone believes in no sex before marrage, then good for them, they should never be pressured into changing their view on the world. But that veiw wasnt for me, and shouldnt nessacerily be for everyone.
Take your own time with it.
People (mainly blokes from my perspective) seem to use losing their virginity as a 'badge of honour'. This annoys me. Ive always taken it as an act of trust, so bragging about it to freinds is stupid and eliminates the trust you should have built with the other party. Its an intimate thing that only you and the other party should really care about.
In my case (sorry if this is too much info) but it was with my first girlfriend. We both had the disire to do it, but we both made sure it was a mutual thing. No pressure on either side. Must say, t'was good.
And If someone believes in no sex before marrage, then good for them, they should never be pressured into changing their view on the world. But that veiw wasnt for me, and shouldnt nessacerily be for everyone.
Take your own time with it.
People (mainly blokes from my perspective) seem to use losing their virginity as a 'badge of honour'. This annoys me. Ive always taken it as an act of trust, so bragging about it to freinds is stupid and eliminates the trust you should have built with the other party. Its an intimate thing that only you and the other party should really care about.
not a big deal
not sacred
Can be sold, though probably shouldn't be if you respect yourself
Promise rings are stupid, if you are promising yourself to someone, why not bone them now
I don't think you should wait til marriage, because I feel that would be like not talking to someone until you're married, it could lead to problems when you find out something doesn't work right or fit correctly. I don't think you should run around and have sex willy nilly. That's a good way to get STDs and a lifetime of burning while urinating.
not sacred
Can be sold, though probably shouldn't be if you respect yourself
Promise rings are stupid, if you are promising yourself to someone, why not bone them now
I don't think you should wait til marriage, because I feel that would be like not talking to someone until you're married, it could lead to problems when you find out something doesn't work right or fit correctly. I don't think you should run around and have sex willy nilly. That's a good way to get STDs and a lifetime of burning while urinating.
Depends on the person, but it typically ends up being so at the time.CODE-D said:
Eh.
Should not.
Stupid, pointless, and silly.
Personally, I will wait till marriage, and yes I am Christian. I was not entirely convinced of this until a teacher told me something. It is an intimate relationship that you will share with only your wife, and your wife only with you (assuming you marry a virgin). While the "don't do it" in the Bible didn't quite convict me of it, the idea of that did.
1) It isn't a big deal to me. To me personally, I see no significance in virginity.CODE-D said:
2) Virginity isn't sacred to me, though I suppose it is to other people.
3) I suppose it could be sold. See Resident Evil 4 for: "I'll buy it at a high price"
4) I find them to be silly.
5) Waiting really depends on the individual. So, that's a case-by-case scenario. For me, I wanted until the right time/person.
Prostitution is normally a life style choice normally act desperation for money.binnsyboy said:
This threads so depressing. Things must have really changed. Times have changed, a much more liberal veiwpoint amongts younger people, the "Do whatever you like as long it dosent harm anyone mentality" Then theres the non virgins are aways the most vocal on how unimportant it is ( I WONDER WHY!?)
As for me?
Its extremmly important and always will be i raised myself on my own accord to follow this nobody else.
Its very sacred, you only have it once thats it, give it to that one person you just know your gonna be with and you have my blessings, as for me HA me having a signficant others thats rich.
You sell it i have no respect or sympathy for you.
Promise rings are a cute idea but ultimately pointless, you should never need a materail object to help reinforce your morals.
Yes you should only wait the only thing before marriage i'd say is if your engaged and you just cant wait lol but ya you should be married, learn to wait, enjoy your life dont rush things.
Dam this threads depressing at the age of 18 am already talking about how times changing. Seems the youth and young adults new ideals and morals are largely based on that new liberal mentality. Theres always rushing to try things just to try, they can never wait it seems an impossible thing now.
Am gonna go do somthing with my best friend at least she understands and shares my morales.
Flame on i guess, i assume thats all am gonna get. If it makes you feel better do it, ultimatly i just want my fellow man and women happy.
As for me?
Its extremmly important and always will be i raised myself on my own accord to follow this nobody else.
Its very sacred, you only have it once thats it, give it to that one person you just know your gonna be with and you have my blessings, as for me HA me having a signficant others thats rich.
You sell it i have no respect or sympathy for you.
Promise rings are a cute idea but ultimately pointless, you should never need a materail object to help reinforce your morals.
Yes you should only wait the only thing before marriage i'd say is if your engaged and you just cant wait lol but ya you should be married, learn to wait, enjoy your life dont rush things.
Dam this threads depressing at the age of 18 am already talking about how times changing. Seems the youth and young adults new ideals and morals are largely based on that new liberal mentality. Theres always rushing to try things just to try, they can never wait it seems an impossible thing now.
Am gonna go do somthing with my best friend at least she understands and shares my morales.
Flame on i guess, i assume thats all am gonna get. If it makes you feel better do it, ultimatly i just want my fellow man and women happy.
Because I'm a feminist I don't really like the notion of "virginity" since it's a concept that has historically been used to commodify women and control their sexuality. Or alternatively it's used as an insult or a way of emasculating men, which is rather immature and silly.
When I had sex for the first time it was a pretty big deal for me, but that's because it was a new experience and something I was actively interested in exploring with my partner - I certainly didn't feel like I had "lost" anything afterwards as the phrase "lose your virginity" suggests.
The "all women are prostitutes" line is... well, just plain wrong. A woman in a romantic relationship is not trading money or any other material goods for sex. She uses the relationship as a means of building trust in her partner, at which point she turns her emotional connection with him into a physical one. The same thing should hopefully be able to be said about men in romantic relationships.
It's true that the social conventions for building trust and romantic interest rely heavily on money-fuelled activities (movies, dinner, etc), and that the man is often expected to shoulder the cost, but that tradition is based on an ancient evolutionary need for men to communicate to women that they are capable providers - a need that is slowly eroding away as women gain the ability to participate in the workforce and provide for themselves. Many women already think that expecting men to exclusively pay for dates is impolite (because it is sexist), and pay for the drinks at dinner or for the snacks at the movies. Women like me prefer to pay an even 50/50.
I should also note that most men get offended if you try to pay for your share of a date, in which case it's ridiculous to blame women for a cultural tradition that is perpetuated by both sexes.
Anyway, saying that all women exchange sex for some sort of monetary gain -rather than emotional- is a very sexist and frankly, very pitiable view of male-female relationships. If your outlook is based on personal experience, then I have to question your taste in women.
And all that's not even touching on the fact that women enjoy sex and (dear lord) participate in it consensually for their own sexual fulfillment, rather than as some sort of transaction with their partner. Why else would women agree to one-night stands, when men have put no financial investment into the "relationship"? And don't say alcohol... plain old sexual desire is a big motivating factor.
When I had sex for the first time it was a pretty big deal for me, but that's because it was a new experience and something I was actively interested in exploring with my partner - I certainly didn't feel like I had "lost" anything afterwards as the phrase "lose your virginity" suggests.
How incredibly original.Mcface said:
The "all women are prostitutes" line is... well, just plain wrong. A woman in a romantic relationship is not trading money or any other material goods for sex. She uses the relationship as a means of building trust in her partner, at which point she turns her emotional connection with him into a physical one. The same thing should hopefully be able to be said about men in romantic relationships.
It's true that the social conventions for building trust and romantic interest rely heavily on money-fuelled activities (movies, dinner, etc), and that the man is often expected to shoulder the cost, but that tradition is based on an ancient evolutionary need for men to communicate to women that they are capable providers - a need that is slowly eroding away as women gain the ability to participate in the workforce and provide for themselves. Many women already think that expecting men to exclusively pay for dates is impolite (because it is sexist), and pay for the drinks at dinner or for the snacks at the movies. Women like me prefer to pay an even 50/50.
I should also note that most men get offended if you try to pay for your share of a date, in which case it's ridiculous to blame women for a cultural tradition that is perpetuated by both sexes.
Anyway, saying that all women exchange sex for some sort of monetary gain -rather than emotional- is a very sexist and frankly, very pitiable view of male-female relationships. If your outlook is based on personal experience, then I have to question your taste in women.
And all that's not even touching on the fact that women enjoy sex and (dear lord) participate in it consensually for their own sexual fulfillment, rather than as some sort of transaction with their partner. Why else would women agree to one-night stands, when men have put no financial investment into the "relationship"? And don't say alcohol... plain old sexual desire is a big motivating factor.
Big Deal? Yes. It's always a big deal when you become part of something bigger than yourself.CODE-D said:
Sacred? Yes. The possibility of creating life - that is always sacred.
Something that can be sold? Yes - sacred prostitution. If done right, it can also be beautiful.
Promise rings - idiotic.
Should you wait - Wait until it feels right. When you're ready, go for it - if being ready means being in love, great. If it means choosing to enjoy yourself because you can, that's fine too. The main thing is that you, personally, are ready.
You probably shouldn't wait for marraige - just IMO, but you should always test drive the car before you buy it.
Don't give a shit, doesn't matter, why would it?
You know, it did matter back a hundred years ago, when women were considered property. If she wasn't a virgin and you married her, it's possible the kid she would give birth to in nine months wouldn't be yours. I'd like to think we've moved past that, and we don't really care.
You know, it did matter back a hundred years ago, when women were considered property. If she wasn't a virgin and you married her, it's possible the kid she would give birth to in nine months wouldn't be yours. I'd like to think we've moved past that, and we don't really care.