My guess of the joke was "Tim Burton will always give Jonny Depp a big part in his movies, no matter what his character's role was in the source material".
Waiting For Godot
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Ha! I get it. But makes me sad that something like that could easily happen.
I saw the play performed by Cpt. Pickard and Gandulf the Grey once.
Godot isn't a character in the play, the play is of the two people, appropriately enough, waiting for Godot.
Godot in turn could be a metaphor for anything from god to death to everything in-between.
Godot in turn could be a metaphor for anything from god to death to everything in-between.
Such a same. There's nothing like the first time when you hear a heart-broken Romeo cry into the sky: "Then I defy you stars!"Fat_Hippo said:
That is how I understood it. Godot himself would be a mix of The Mad Hatter and Jack Sparrow. And the only time he would not be on screen would be for several appearances of Helena Bonham Carter.bificommander said:My guess of the joke was "Tim Burton will always give Jonny Depp a big part in his movies, no matter what his character's role was in the source material".
I know what Waiting for Godot is, but I'm not sure what that has to do with Johnny Depp or Tim Burton ... other than "Haha, Depp never shows up" ... so unless that's the whole joke I feel like I'm missing something here ...
I've heard about Waiting for Godot, but didn't know enough to get the joke. So, being a good denizen of the internet, looked it up. So, the net result of today's strip is +1 knowledge, +2 cultural enlightenment, +1 chuckle.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Waiting_for_Godot#Godot
Again, as someone who just really "got it," this is what I thought:
Johnnie Depp, who often is the sole hook people are going to movies for (Pirates of the Caribbean, the new Lone Ranger [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JjFsNSoDZK8]), is in this case playing a character who doesn't even show up in the movie. Tim Burton also takes on these projects and does wonky remakes of things when they're better left alone. But, at the same time, Tim Burton loves doing these slightly tragic or tragedy type movies, so it isn't even inconceivable. And, Tim Burton does these huge overhauls, and he might do such an overhaul of the original material that Godot shows up in an adaption of a play that's famous for him not even being in it.
So, the joke is, I guess, 1: about Johnnie Depp usually filling seats, and here he's playing someone who doesn't show up, 2: Tim Burton's wonkyness, since they drew Burton's interpretation of Godot as someone wearing a hat with a carrot and a dog and shit, which is baseless since we never see Godot or no what he looks like, 3: As bad as an idea as it may be, it isn't really out of character for Burton.
Finally, I'm at least 65% positive they didn't mean this Godot:
DVS BSTrD said:Okay I'm lost.
Who's this Johny Deep character?
Shinsei-J said:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Waiting_for_GodotNile McMorrow said:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Waiting_for_Godot#Godot
Again, as someone who just really "got it," this is what I thought:
Johnnie Depp, who often is the sole hook people are going to movies for (Pirates of the Caribbean, the new Lone Ranger [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JjFsNSoDZK8]), is in this case playing a character who doesn't even show up in the movie. Tim Burton also takes on these projects and does wonky remakes of things when they're better left alone. But, at the same time, Tim Burton loves doing these slightly tragic or tragedy type movies, so it isn't even inconceivable. And, Tim Burton does these huge overhauls, and he might do such an overhaul of the original material that Godot shows up in an adaption of a play that's famous for him not even being in it.
So, the joke is, I guess, 1: about Johnnie Depp usually filling seats, and here he's playing someone who doesn't show up, 2: Tim Burton's wonkyness, since they drew Burton's interpretation of Godot as someone wearing a hat with a carrot and a dog and shit, which is baseless since we never see Godot or no what he looks like, 3: As bad as an idea as it may be, it isn't really out of character for Burton.
Finally, I'm at least 65% positive they didn't mean this Godot:
Amaror said:
I read it as "Tim Burton is so mad about crow-barring Johnny Depp into his films that he would do an adaption of Waiting for Godot where Godot actually arrives (played by Depp) and completely takes over the story."cynicalsaint1 said:
You know, the same way he has crow-barred Johnny Depp into other films, completely ruining them.
Samuel Beckett was once asked about this and said "If Godot was meant to represent God, I'd have called him God. They're waiting for Godot."Helen Jones said:
I saw this when it was on with McKellen and Patrick Stewart opposite him. It was a really excellent performance and incredibly funny. I highly recommend it.
"Perhaps we'll get an erection!"
Best quote ever (one of my favorite plays).
That said I actually don't get the joke. Godot never shows up (kinda the point). Is it playing on Burton's odd way of reimagining series?
Best quote ever (one of my favorite plays).
That said I actually don't get the joke. Godot never shows up (kinda the point). Is it playing on Burton's odd way of reimagining series?
He wasn't God. Beckett once said something to the effect that if he wanted to to be God, he would have said God. Also there are more than 4 characters in the play... there's six, the two messenger boys (usually played by two different, but fairly similar looking, child actors).Helen Jones said:
It's a riff on how Tim Burton misses the point of every adaptation he does in order to continue his Johnny Depp obsession (although I'm disappointed you couldn't find a way to shoehorn Helena Bonham Carter in here as well Grey. I mean, Tim Burton always doesShinsei-J said:
). Anyway, 'Waiting For Godot', is a very understated play about two men who are quite literally waiting for another man named Godot. However, Godot never actually shows up. Rather than a character, Godot is a plot device. He's figurative, and through him many ideas are explored. It's the sort of dark, quite abstract piece that Tim Burton might have done a really good adaptation of back when Tim Burton didn't suck, but if he did it today he'd make Godot the main character (just like he made Willy Wonka the main character in 'Charlie and the Chocolate Factory', and practically made the Mad Hatter the main character in 'Alice in Wonderland'), make Godot 'goofy' just because Johnny Depp needs his pay check, and leave the actual relationship between the other two characters (which is what 'Waiting for Godot' is actually about) to get completely lost in the background.
What artists say about their work and what can be drawn from it can be two very different things.LavaLampBamboo said:
Godot is not "meant" to be God, but he can be representative of God, as well as lots of other things.
I thought Godot was around the "It was his sled!" level of pop culture now. My personal favorite is when Elmo played Godot.
Have never heard that before (obviously), but thanks for sharing, it's pretty interesting. While clearly from that Godot can't BE God, I do stand that the plays theme of spending a life waiting for something can be linked to God and Christianity, but as a lesser idea rather than a central one.RC1138 said: