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I lol'd at the claymore lightsaber. I lol'd hard.

Other than that, it had some cool set pieces (the X-Wings flying low across the water was really cool, and actually reminded me of some of the stuff I used to do for fun back when I played a lot of Rogue Squadron. Man, that was a good game. Shame EA doesn't like money.)
 

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Zachary Amaranth said:
This didn't show me much, it didn't impress me much, but I did enjoy the shot of the Falcon. Seriously, the best part was the intro of the Williams theme and the Falcon.

Scarim Coral said:
Also light crossguard now?
Considering how many SWRPG fans have done something like this (And I think it exists in supplements), I'm surprised it took them this long.
Yeah, I guess that would make Henry a hispter now (well ok there probably other character who had a lightsaber like weapons but with a light/ lazer crossguard to do along with it).
[img src="http://img2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20100204175603/nomoreheroes/images/5/50/Henry3.png" img src]
 

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Jamieson 90 said:
From the top of my head I can think of 5 examples of when someone got their hand(s) cut off due to a light saber. 1) Anakin, 2) Count Dooku, (3) General Grievous, 4) Luke and 5) Vader.

Of those 5 examples, if we accept that only one would have been prevented by the guard, that's still a 1 in 5 probability of saving your hand opposed to a 0 in 5 chance. Would you really turn down something that would give you an extra 20% chance of survival?
Anakin/Vader lost a total of five limbs to a lightsaber, none of which would have been saved by the cross guard. Dooku lost two. Grievous lost two or more, of which one MAY have been prevented. Mace Windu also lost at least one hand.

That's some really terrible math (to get to a 20% chance). It's also poor logic, assuming no downside and only an upside. It also assumes that Obi-Wan couldn't just cut through the crosspiece, since there's ample room between the hilt and the beginning of the cross blade, assuming that he did slide down the hilt. In fact, it'd guide a blade right to the cross point. And we know that can happen, since it happened with Maul's saber.

nightmare_gorilla said:
so... i thought the storm troopers were all clones at this point... aren't they all suposed to be clones of bobba fetts dad or something? why the black guy? did the clone troops go away at some point? i'm not big into the star wars mythos so I might have missed something.
That was true back in the prequel era. They opened recruitment well after that, and this is something like 40 years later.
 

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Zontar said:
I know this doesn't look nearly as bad as the prequels where, but god this did not make me feel excited at all. It just looked and felt like a well make fan film or a made-for-tv-movie type production. I know we have a whole year of post for them to work the kinks out, but god my hopes that this would rekindle the franchise are gone.
I'll take a well-made fan film over the prequels.
That's a pretty low bar you've set there. I actually remember watching some fan films that where pretty dame good. I just hope the actual movie isn't of the same production quality.
 

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Honestly, yuck.

Since it is the first thing people are talking about, the lightsaber crossguards are dumb. Not light-whip or light-nunchucks dumb, but dumb none the less.

But that wasn't what looked bad to me. Even with the quick cuts, you could tell the Storm Trooper scene had a strobe effect going on. And the camera rotation on the Falcon was so over the top (no pun intended). The voice over didn't work at all. There were no aliens. There was no SPACE! The tone of the trailer lacked any sense of wonder at all. And, perhaps worst of all, the stuff that did feel like Star Wars seemed out of place.

I think the references to Super 8 are right on the mark. It really felt like a soulless imitation of a Star Wars film without understanding what made Star Wars work.

No evidence of anything Jar Jar bad, though, so there is still a good chance that the story will be better than the prequels. And the sound effects were spot on.
 

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nightmare_gorilla said:
so... i thought the storm troopers were all clones at this point... aren't they all suposed to be clones of bobba fetts dad or something? why the black guy? did the clone troops go away at some point? i'm not big into the star wars mythos so I might have missed something.
Maybe he's an impostor or something like that? Luke and Han dress up as stormtroopers in the first movie.
 

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Scarim Coral said:
Yeah, I guess that would make Henry a hispter now (well ok there probably other character who had a lightsaber like weapons but with a light/ lazer crossguard to do along with it).
[img src="http://img2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20100204175603/nomoreheroes/images/5/50/Henry3.png" img src]
Only if his laser sword is organic and fair trade. ;)

Zontar said:
That's a pretty low bar you've set there.
That's the bar the movies have set.
 

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Well, what I thought has pretty much already been said but I will clarify that I am not impressed.

On a side note, has anyone else noticed that the so called guard will do absolutely nothing to catch another blade? There is a good inch - inch and a half maybe? - of hilt between the guard and the blade that another lightsaber can easily slip through. The only benefit I can think to having the guards is to suddenly activate them and try to take someone by surprise in a blade lock but for less effort you could use a wrist mounted blade, shoulder mounted weapon or literally anything else that is mechanised.

Also that rolling droid thing. Why? I understand this is Star Wars but that design should have been laughed out of the room the moment it was suggested.
 

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For y'all complaining about the dangers of the cross-guard, the sword has metal cross-guard prongs before the lightsabre part happens. So moving your hand up and down the hilt wont see your fingers burnt off.
 

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So ya...

I liked the trailer - looks promising. I enjoyed the use of practical sets, costumes and whatnot

The rolling-robot... we'll see how that pans out

The lightsaber-claymore - hmmm.... the way those crossguards are set up they're just not practical. A hit going down the length of the blade will chop off the cross-guard emitters. Still, we'll see how it works out

Beyond that? X-wings! yay! Looks nice
 

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Paulhorne Schillings said:
See, it's callbacks like the Millenium Falcon that give me warning signs that the movie's not about being an entertaining, standalone film, but rather a film about a film that was standalone entertaining.
This is only a teaser, and all a teaser is supposed to do is get people excited at the idea of the film, while not detailing anything about the plot or characters. Images of famous stuff from star wars is pretty much all anyone could expect for a teaser.
 

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I don't really care about practicality or not, I just think the damn things is ugly. Same goes for U-haul speederbike.
It is way to early to call, but this trailer has not set any hype or kindled any nostalgia or childhood wonderment in me.


Then again I have been doubtful of this project ever since the news broke that some of the old actors would be in it.
 

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Oh Jesus, Mr. Plinkett will have a field day.

I honestly thought this was a parody video at first. Of all the many scenes they could have shown us, black storm trooper and robot soccer were apparently the most important? I'm happy they got rid of the clones, and the idea that the storm troopers are real people with wants and dreams is a welcome change of pace, but is this really the first thing we need to see? What was up with the lightsaber? That design caused me physical pain, like it probably would the user. I have no love for Abrams, but this is... some how worse then I feared. So much worse. I can just see Abrams and Lucas jerking each other off in the concept art room.

Abrams may have achieved the impossible... a film far worse then Phantom Menace. The series is long dead Abrams, stop poking it with a stick.

Thankfully our Lord and Saviour has given us a sci-fi film we can all enjoy. Let us all flee to the Interstellar screenings at once, and there remember what real movies look like.
 

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The shot with the black man jumping up so suddenly, the R2D2 soccer ball, and the flying fridge all had me thinking that this was a joke. This trailer really just seemed like a poorly edited mess. Hopefully that's just because it's a teaser.
Darth Rosenberg said:
and the other two didn't exactly measure up to anything, either.
Gee, I must be one of the only people around here who genuinely enjoyed Revenge of the Sith.
 

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albino boo said:
Wasn't that Benedict Cumberbatch doing the voice over?

Ryan Hughes said:
Is this a good time to reveal how much I dislike the Star Wars films? Or, will that just lead to torches, pitchforks, and awkward conversations about what is to be done with my dead body?
Nope, no awkward conversations about what is to be done with your dead body. It will be put in giant wicker Greedo and burnt as an offering to the gods to restore Han shooting first.
all hail to the han. let it be done in his name !

i liked the teaser.
 

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Drakoorr said:
You know, when I first saw the lightsaber w/crossguard, I groaned a bit too, but thinking about it it's actually quite reasonable for the same reasons as real swords having had crossguards, only more so because there's no gauntlet in the galaxy that will save your hand from a lightsaber. Hell, I'm pretty sure that's how Grevious lost at least one of his hands when fighting Obi-Wan, maybe the Sith are learning. And on the topic of daft designs, I reckon whoever thought of lightsaber nunchucks wins the gold medal. Pretty sure those were a thing in the expanded universe.
Except that a strike coming down the blade of that lightsaber wouldn't hit the energy crossguards and be deflected... it would slide down into the handle mechanism because the crossguards extend uselessly out to the sides.
 

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Oh kindly shove the "realism? in MY fantasy movie?!" nonsense somewhere uncomfortable; as people have spent countless hours on countless forums explaining to "judgement reservers" the world over; "realism" and "internal consistency" are not the same thing. It doesn't matter if a fictional world follows the rules of reality as long as it follows its own already-established rules. Yes, moronic crap like the "lightwhip" exist in the EU, but given Disney literally eradicated the entire EU from canon just a short while ago specifically so they could pick out the good bits and ignore the nonsensical drivel that naturally builds up in a semi-official ecosystem that often amounted to legitimised fanfics(a great decision IMO; the EU had many, many more stinkers than it had gems, particularly in the post-RotJ stuff that the films will now be overwriting), their existence is hardly a good peg for anyone to hang a positive view of the broadsword on.
Your unnecessary rudeness aside, pray tell what "established" rules does the core crop of films have that precludes the inclusion of a light-saber with a hand-guard?

Because I heard the same bullshit when Episode One came out and self-proclaimed "die-hard fans" bitched about Darth Maul's dual-sword. They cried, "Myah! That's not canon! You couldn't wield that properly!"

Now I see the same people saying dual-bladed light-sabers are fine, but this hand-guard thing.... IT'S BLASPHEMY!

So please, do enlighten me as to why the sword in the teaser is somehow 'offensive' to the canon of the core films "established rules". Rules, it seems, that are so fluid as to not even matter.

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Or perhaps I should say: Rules so fluid that the only real stipulation be, "it's a sword that glows".

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For that matter, how dare you scream about "internal consistency". Even the films aren't consistent with the displayed behavior and physical properties of light-sabers.
They're consistent in one respect; they cut through anything except another lightsaber blade. The energy quillions have physical projectors which extend from the handle, which would be cut through if you made any attempt to trap an opponent's blade; you can't grasp the lightsaber blade and wield the sword in a wide two-handed stance using the quillions as a weapon as medieval swordsmen sometimes did. They're pointless ornamentation that do nothing except make the weapon more dangerous to the user than it already was, which as I said is exactly the kind of flash-first, logic-never aesthetic that Abrams loves.

And I obviously can't speak to other people, but if you'll note above I don't, and at the time I didn't, throw a hissy over Maul's saberstaff - I thought it was a bit OTT, but it worked in the world. My reasoning is unchanged and consistent, and it is not diminished by the fact some other person's at some other time was not, so take it up with them.