well, the the escapist was just attacked.

[Something Amyss]

There's been talking about it on The Young Turks, actually.

TYT brings up gaming topics now and again anyway. At least one of the regulars is a gamer. Or maybe hates the term but loves games.

and just because i don;t subscribe to the postmodernist linguistics style of definition, and reject the notions of relative truths in language doesn't make my beliefs backwards

No, the fact that you have it literally backwards as to how language develops, how it actually works in the real world, that's what makes your beliefs backwards. Don't put words in my mouth. There's nothing postmodern about the way language has worked through recorded history. The use of words changes with the public, which is why no authority ever knocked on Shakespeare's door to have a word with him.

 

[sageoftruth]

So can someone tell me what it was exactly? Have I had all my info taken or what? I had my facebook, steam and something else linked on my profile, does this mean it's all taken and I have to redo it all? Or was it just a simple DDOS? Since there's mixed answers on this thread.

No one knows. All people know is that the Gamergate thread was the one most attacked. People right now are jumping to conclusions to fit their agendas. I'd give it a day or two before having any meaningful answers. Chances are anything discovered today will be just speculation backed by paranoia.

Sounds appropriate. All right then. Back to my games.

 

[Krispness]

Well, I've been away for awhile and shit most certainly went down. Sad to see the escapist attacked, it has clearly been quite level headed throughout the entire thing. It allowed users to give their opinions on the forums and content creators to give their opinion on social media, even though they opposed each other and lead to insults between them at times. Most of all All Archon did was write out facts, allowed both sides to have their say and admit there's nothing wrong with having moral guidelines that every other media tries to uphold.

 

[AetherWolf]

Honestly, I'm just laughing so hard right now at everyone reactions in this thread. Along with all these crybabies labeling literally anything anyone remotely against GG as "censorship" because they don't like how everyone else is just fed up with their cosmic-level temper tantrums and is just trying to put an end to their harassment campaigns that target very specific people. (You can try to correct me with "b-b-b-but we're just going after corrupt journalists! m-muh journalistic integrity! censorship! sjws!" but it's awfully apparent that GGers just want to take down anyone in the industry with more than a few hundred twitter followers that aren't actively anti-feminist.) Apparently getting called out for bad behavior is "censoring free speech" now? Okay, whatever. Go back to your super secret gaming clubhouse where you kids whine about how the big bad evul feminists are out to ruin your video games. Just keep all your screaming down, it's giving the rest of us a headache. :3c

you need to drastically reappraise what's actually going on.

maybe this might make you step down off your high horse and actually look around;

https://twitter.com/GGfeminist/status/514238397653590016/photo/1

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cjdiC2ednok

and ddosing a major commercial website is not anyone "getting called out for bad behaviour" rather it's a Federal crime and you can be damn sure it is being pursued as such.

Ahaha. Someone sure got a taste of their own medicine, didn't they?

https://twitter.com/theMirai/status/513071441206456322

 

[Notshauna]

Watching #GamerGate and 4chan race each other to the Party Van is probably the single most fitting way this whole debacle could end.

In the end no one will be partying, the longer this shit goes on the more we lose. I mean for fucks sake the best case scenario is that we'll make a fool of ourselves to the media or we lose part of our media. It's clear that there won't be a happy ending here, all this shit storm is doing is obscuring shady shit in the industry, with both the Sims 4 and Destiny both failing to get anywhere near the coverage they earned with their bullshit. Hell EA could actually kill someone and they'd still get less coverage than gamergate. No matter who 'wins' gamers lose, I just wish that both sides could see that.

 

[Fox12]

Watching #GamerGate and 4chan race each other to the Party Van is probably the single most fitting way this whole debacle could end.

In the end no one will be partying, the longer this shit goes on the more we lose. I mean for fucks sake the best case scenario is that we'll make a fool of ourselves to the media or we lose part of our media. It's clear that there won't be a happy ending here, all this shit storm is doing is obscuring shady shit in the industry, with both the Sims 4 and Destiny both failing to get anywhere near the coverage they earned with their bullshit. Hell EA could actually kill someone and they'd still get less coverage than gamergate. No matter who 'wins' gamers lose, I just wish that both sides could see that.

Much is lost in civil war.

I don't know, what's the aim here? It was transparency in journalism, but now both sides are so entrenched that the only outcome is the eventual death of one or the other. There have been positive results, such as on the escapist, but everywhere else is a mine field. Then the escapist, the only level headed site, gets a dds attack, which of course fans the flames of war and keeps the whole thing going. I think the whole thing will pass in time, but this is one of the ugliest scandals I've seen in a long time. It doesn't help that the industry "professionals" are just as bad as the trolls.

 

[AetherWolf]

Ahaha. Someone sure got a taste of their own medicine, didn't they?

https://twitter.com/theMirai/status/513071441206456322

no people committed real life crimes and doing so shouldn't be cheered under any circumstances.

two wrongs don't make a right.

never have.

Oh, of course it doesn't. But it's such a shame people only bring up "legal consequences" and don't fabricate claims that they're "faking it" or "making it all up for attention" when it happens to someone with a Vivian James avatar who frequents Adam Baldwin's hashtag, isn't it?

 

[IceForce]

All we know is that Ben Kuchera was yelling at Greg Tito yesterday to censor his forums about that very thread.

Today this happens and the thread is attacked.

Evidence? Links? I want to see this "yelling".

 

[Vibhor]

All we know is that Ben Kuchera was yelling at Greg Tito yesterday to censor his forums about that very thread.

Today this happens and the thread is attacked.

Evidence? Links? I want to see this "yelling".

I wouldn't say yelling, it was more like guilting
Ben Kuchera, being the kind soul he is, was worried about his fri-I mean a developer getting harassed and was saying that by allowing the threads to exist greg tito was promoting harassment.

 

[IceForce]

however the inference this had something to with the ddosing is not worth thinking about.

the ddosing targeted the gamergate thread specifically...occam's razor would suggest that the highest probability is that it was perpetrated by those opposed to the threads existence but i don't think that's very likely to be Ben Kuchera as much as say a tech savy "sjw" voluntary botnet and/or their SA goon allys.

Fair point.

And this...

http://yiannopoulos.net/2014/09/19/gamejournopros-zoe-quinn-email-dump/

... shows emails from a month ago, not "yesterday" (the day before the DDoS) as Ultratwinkie said.

So once again I'm seeing misleading information being thrown around, and conclusion-jumping taking place.

 

[AetherWolf]

Ahaha. Someone sure got a taste of their own medicine, didn't they?

https://twitter.com/theMirai/status/513071441206456322

no people committed real life crimes and doing so shouldn't be cheered under any circumstances.

two wrongs don't make a right.

never have.

Oh, of course it doesn't. But it's such a shame people only bring up "legal consequences" and don't fabricate claims that they're "faking it" or "making it all up for attention" when it happens to someone with a Vivian James avatar who frequents Adam Baldwin's hashtag, isn't it?

no that would be ether a lie at worst of a baseless supposition at best.

would you like to check my post history on the subject ?

you might also actually care to read "the threads" responses to the events you allude to rather than just supposing a narrative that fits your bases.

y'know...if you have any inclination to actually deal in realities that is...

There are dozens of threads floating around, some with upwards of hundreds of pages. Sorry I don't have the time to read >500k words discussions pertaining to the so-called evils of the "sjw cults" and whatnot. Skimming a lot of them shows the exact same conversations and trains of thought on feminism I've already seen countless times before over the years and it's just flat-out exhausting to deal with individuals on a case-by-case basis. At this point what's said has been said, everyone outside of the gamergate vacuum doesn't give a shit anymore, the ones inside the gamergate vacuum continue their kicking and screaming, and like I said, all that's left to do is laugh at the stuff like this that's been turning up:

 

[Calbeck]

Okay, but....he CAN'T silence you. Unless he's a moderator, then he doesn't have that control.

Harassment doesn't require being empowered as a moderator. Otherwise, there would be no such thing regarding the average poster. Do I really need to cite the site rules as to what harassment is, or can you get around to doing that yourself without sitting there and defending the guy before you bother to?

Hell with it, why not:

Forum Code of Conduct

Don't Be a Jerk
This rule trumps any other. Any loophole you think you've found in any other rule is covered by this one. If you make our forums a less pleasant place to be, we don't want you here and we have no problem revoking your account. Here are a couple of the things you should stay away from:

Trolling
Posting inflammatory, extraneous or off-topic messages with the primary intent of provoking readers into an emotional response or otherwise disrupting normal on-topic discussion.

Now, you've asked me not to report you, and I don't think you're deliberately being a jerk here, but since you just got done calling either him or me a troll, here's another:

Flaming
Calling people names (or groups who may visit The Escapist), this includes calling others a troll. Calling another user a troll is always an infraction.

No, for what it's worth, I HAVEN'T reported you for this. Just sayin', these are the rules. If the mods don't want to take action on it, that's their call, neither yours nor mine, but if you're honestly going to say it's TOS-accepted to try and badger people to shut down forum threads without cause... no. It ain't.