well, the the escapist was just attacked.
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Not really WILD accusations given that the antis have a bad habit of Doxxing people and would have a vested interest in shutting up one of the few places that actually allows Gamer Gate discussions.QuietlyListening said:
It's more assumptions based on what all is known.
Especially with all that fake-self doxxing and falsifying police reports. Pretty dastardly. I'm impressed.
Here's a thought that the site was doing some simple maintenance web sites and forums are known to do that from time to time!!
And this is why I decided to opt out of the whole GamerGate scandal.
It was just "This is far bigger than I know to commentate on," but with a side dash of "There's just too much that either annoys me or confuses me about this issue that I'd rather just sit out on it and let it die."
It was just "This is far bigger than I know to commentate on," but with a side dash of "There's just too much that either annoys me or confuses me about this issue that I'd rather just sit out on it and let it die."
Hold up a mirror there.Ultratwinkie said:
And you're the judge and jury when it comes to others' intentions? I'm not saying there aren't people out there that do it just for their own ego, but you're basically leveling this pejorative at anyone you disagree with.
Who is being defended? So there's no white guys in gamergate?
So because I'm against gamergate I must be for corrupt journalists? Just another sad example of that 'us v them' attitude on display. But don't let me stop you, keep right on truckin there.
Of course, by this point you've all moved on to the 'real enemy', those evil SJWs. A movement born out of misogyny and slut shaming, cutting it's teeth on defeating all those progressives.
Of course, now that you've gotten what you need out of her, it's time to move on and attack the next windmill.
That's a strange way of describing a ~7500 post thread, the largest on this site.BobDobolina said:
It's also a strange way of describing mountains of evidence to the contrary, such as:BobDobolina said:
http://www.breitbart.com/Breitbart-London/2014/09/17/Exposed-the-secret-mailing-list-of-the-gaming-journalism-elite
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9MxqSwzFy5w
http://www.forbes.com/sites/erikkain/2014/09/04/gamergate-a-closer-look-at-the-controversy-sweeping-video-games/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fF8su7GTGvw
http://yiannopoulos.net/2014/09/19/gamejournopros-zoe-quinn-email-dump/
http://www.brightsideofnews.com/2014/09/19/inside-the-secret-world-of-games-journalism/
http://adland.tv/adnews/gamergate-insulting-consumers-shrinks-market/1027025677
https://medium.com/@ryansmithwriter/a-lack-of-critical-distance-b021f84ca0c3
And so forth
I've brought loads of evidence to the table. You've brought none. You have neither logically refuted said evidence nor have you presented any evidence for your side. If this were a court of law, it's abundantly clear which side has won. Hint: it's not your side.BobDobolina said:
Someone was not following the thread (not that I blame you). The site owner has already confirmed that it was a DDoS. It does not get to be any higher authority than that.RICHIERICAN said:
Might want to make sure your posts are a little longer. there are rules against low content posts as anyone who wants to be a member of this community would know.
Nice try, but I haven't painted your entire movement as misogynistic assholes, nor do I lob pejoratives with abandon at anyone who disagrees with me. Second, for all the talk of 'SJWs not caring about minorities', I have seen very little in the way of evidence that as a group, pro social justice people don't care about minorities, or are racist, or any of the other accusations they have had lobbed against them. On the other hand, I have already laid out evidence multiple times why I see many in your movement as duplicitous. Third, answer me honestly, was there ever a point in our PMs where I questioned your intentions personally?Ultratwinkie said:
I most certainly am.
When have I ever accused you of attacking random defenseless journalists?
That's the claim anyway. And I'm sure many of you are. But that message seems to get polluted when you derail yourself talking about 'SJWs'. What do 'SJWs' have to do with journalism?
For all the talk about 'SJWs' and their fake moral highground, you seem to have taken a page right out of 'their' playbook.
The email dump provided by Milo alone was very informative. The amount of pressure Tito was getting to censor the debate was appalling. Polygon never had my traffic to begin with, now that I see what a pro censorship prat their owner is I have no intention of ever giving them any. Tito and Archon both have shown a lot of class and honor in allowing debate here. They need to be applauded.Ilovechocolatemilk said:
And normally, when The Escapist does so, they have a message that says "Down for maintenance". Usually, this happens once a week at 3am, or sometime near then. I've experienced this many times, being I'm more of a night person. No such notice or warning occured, at any time, during the hiccups experienced. Also, given the events of a couple days past, it is better to be cautious and ask questions when such hiccups occur, given the malicious nature that surrounds the entirety of GamerGate. It is with those things in mind that I am more apt to call it an attack rather than site maintenance. The staff would also usually report on social media, such as Twitter, if The Escapist was to undergo unscheduled maintenance to let users know and allay fears and future questions.RICHIERICAN said: