We're The Good Guys Now

[Olas]

You know, although Microsoft no longer looks like a big evil corporation trying to ruin gaming for consumers; instead they just kinda look like a bunch of spineless hypocrites.

If this whole thing WAS just some gigantic PR stunt it means they're also completely clueless as to what creates good PR. Oh well.

 

[Wesley Brannock]

This vid states my exact opinion about the Xbox One.

 

[Lilani]

I was planning on buying Kingdom Heart 3, since Microsoft reverse their decision on the important issue, it gonna be a ***** deciding which one to buy now. Its 180 moves like that makes it hard for consumers to make any easy decision. Hopefully, that will change in the near future

I'd still go for the PS4 if I were you. Apart from Kingdom Hearts, the x-bone still requires that registration connection, and from what I understand it needs to be connected every time you install a game from disc. So...yeah. Every time you load a new game you have to be connected, that'll be annoying.

 

[Thaluikhain]

I dunno, with the Kinnect plugged in requirement they still seem a little too Vooryeuristic to me.

What, I-

...

Oh dear. *shakes head sadly*

 

[songnar]

I dunno, with the Kinnect plugged in requirement they still seem a little too Vooryeuristic to me.

Why? Why would you do that? Are you proud of what you just typed there?

You really ought to mask your enthusiasm, because it feels like you've shoved a knife through my heart.

 

[Lilani]

You know, although Microsoft no longer looks like a big evil corporation trying to ruin gaming for consumers; instead they just kinda look like a bunch of spineless hypocrites.

If this whole thing WAS just some gigantic PR stunt it means they're also completely clueless as to what creates good PR. Oh well.

I kinda feel like Jim was right in that Microsoft though Sony was going to take the bait and go down the same route, making both of them the villains, which in practice would mean neither is the villain.

I also don't think they were expecting the main stream media to join in on the criticism. Giving the military the shaft pissed off Fox news, and little did they expect Louis Black and Jimmy Fallon to go on national television and give them the shaft right back. I don't think there is any sort of precedent for the amount of pressure that's been put out against a console from outside the general gaming community.

 

[BX3]

GAH! Jesus! Put th-- Put the mask back on!!

 

[rasputin0009]

I was planning on buying Kingdom Heart 3, since Microsoft reverse their decision on the important issue, it gonna be a ***** deciding which one to buy now. Its 180 moves like that makes it hard for consumers to make any easy decision. Hopefully, that will change in the near future

Get the one that's $100 less and without a camera constantly listening?

Still pretty clear cut for me.

I think the only way PS4 will lose is if it has a YLOD/RROD similar problem, it's only shred of negative press is pay to play online but that is almost negated by the free games.

The PS4's components run pretty cool so they shouldn't have too many issues. The Xbox One on the otherhand is a clusterfuck to mass produce. They're either going to have some jet turbines cooling their machine, or its gonna have a failure rate as bad as the 360. I'm going to bet on the latter. Microsoft isn't the most reliable at producing working hardware.

At the start of the year my from launch PS3 got the YLOD so no matter what I am keeping my PS4 chilly as fuck! Probably just buy a cheap fan and point it at the PS4 but I'm not sure yet.

Still got to get my PS3 fixed actually ...

Ya, I melted a PS3 slim right before Skyrim came out. Had it in a cupboard running for hours on end. No airflow realky fucked it. I just bought a new one when I got Skyrim because I was just too excited for that damn game. I might buy one of those laptop fans and put that underneath the PS4 just in case.

 

[Eric the Orange]

I like to think of it like this.

Imagine if you needed a roof and there were 3 companies who were offering to do the job.

PS4 says "I'll do the job competently"

WiiU says "I'll do the job competently. But in an outdated model. And any repairs/add-ons have to come from us."

XB1 says "I'll do the job competently. But I'll also hammer some holes in it. Oh wait you DON'T want holes in your roof? Well then I guess I won't, but your stupid for not wanting holes in your roof"

 

[Evil Smurf]

Man you guys work fast. What was it? Wednesday?

Still, no desire to buy an XBox One. My PC/Mac does just fine, thank you very much. Plus if they were willing to do this once, they'll be willing to do it again someday.

Yeah, I'm just going to upgrade my macbook pro's HHD to a SSD and give it 8 gig more ram.

 

[tdylan]

I'd still go for the PS4 if I were you. Apart from Kingdom Hearts, the x-bone still requires that registration connection, and from what I understand it needs to be connected every time you install a game from disc. So...yeah. Every time you load a new game you have to be connected, that'll be annoying.

What? No ****ing way! If true, that didn't really fix the problem. If I'm deployed overseas, I can't have my family send me any new games, and I can't buy new games on base because each game will require me to be connected to the internet to install it? If so, they're still screwing the people with no internet.

 

[cricket chirps]

This is exactly how i felt about it. I've been using the more exagerated example of someone yelling the N word then going "What? I'm not racist."

 

[Nimcha]

All this focus on tangential stuff is very annoying. With a new console come new games, that's what all the attention should be on. But neither Microsoft nor 'the internet' seems to care about that.

 

[SurfKansas]

That's pretty much how I hope this turns out. I really hope this upset so many people that they still massively lag behind the ps4 with launch sales. However, I'm also getting ready to be dissapointed again when the ssales still turn out well because fanboys will be fanboys.

As a self-proclaimed PS4 fanboy, I actually hope the XB1 sells really well now. Microsoft got it handed to them for being anti-consumer, they listened to the consumers, and hopefully, the consumers vote with their wallet to show support fo consumer-friendly products.

I have no plans for buying an XB1. But, look at all the 360 did for PS3. If Sony was the only player in town, would they have dropped the cash to build exclusive "hardware moving" titles like Uncharted 2 or God of War 3? We only have PS Plus (with its free game collection) because of XB Live. And, would Sony have spent the effort creating a next-gen machine if their only competition was the Wii U?

Generally, competition in a market is a very good thing for consumers. I like seeing a company take some lumps for being anti-consumer, but I want to see XBox bounce back.

 

[geizr]

Sorry, Microsoft. You screwed the pooch hard on this one. You'll have to try again on the next console generation after this upcoming one. Maybe, by then, people will have calmed down enough to be willing to give you a second chance, assuming you've actually learned your lesson in that time. However, for this upcoming generation, chances are good you lost the war on the very first salvo due to your sudden nervous break-down. We'll see you again sometime between 2019-2022; we'll discuss the progress of your rehabilitation and re-education then. You can see the secretary at the front registration desk to schedule an appointment; oh, and don't forget to pay the bill on your way out.

 

[Something Amyss]

The tale of the boy who cried anti-consumer bullsh*t

Actually, "Just Kidding!" would have been a better response than what they actually dropped.

 

[masticina]

Yes this is kinda how I feel about it. Worrying isn't it just how bad they are treating customers. Luckily customers did what they did.. they voted with their feet. And pre-ordered the other one more.

That was a big thing.. sometimes companies need to be pulled back at the only only leash they understand.. the wallet.

 

[Lilani]

I'd still go for the PS4 if I were you. Apart from Kingdom Hearts, the x-bone still requires that registration connection, and from what I understand it needs to be connected every time you install a game from disc. So...yeah. Every time you load a new game you have to be connected, that'll be annoying.

What? No ****ing way! If true, that didn't really fix the problem. If I'm deployed overseas, I can't have my family send me any new games, and I can't buy new games on base because each game will require me to be connected to the internet to install it? If so, they're still screwing the people with no internet.

Okay, actually I just researched it, and that might be wrong. You can install a game to the cloud if you want, but after that first-time registration no more internet connection is required for disc-based games, if I'm reading right. Using the cloud isn't required. So either what I heard is an unjustified rumor spawned from hate, or I just misunderstood.

Either way I'm still getting the PS4, though. We're three weeks post-announcement and we still aren't 100% clear on how the x-bone works. Even before this change there was still misinformation and questions floating around. That's ridiculous, and very sketchy. And the pressure doesn't change the fact that they still saw people without Internet as a disposable part of their customer base.

All this focus on tangential stuff is very annoying. With a new console come new games, that's what all the attention should be on. But neither Microsoft nor 'the internet' seems to care about that.

However, consoles are what makes playing those games possible. So how the consoles run is a pretty big deal ;-)

 

[gamegod25]

More like they tried to mug us but gave the wallet back after we kicked them in the balls.