What did the Xbone do right?

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JagermanXcell

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15 new exclusives!
Kinda wish they brought em... so I can see the 11 that are Kinect exclusives...

Sorry xbox fans. Its impossible not to /sarcasm.
 

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Xcell935 said:
15 new exclusives!
Kinda wish they brought em... so I can see the 11 that are Kinect exclusives...

Sorry xbox fans. Its impossible not to /sarcasm.
Don't worry about it, most of us aren't Xbox fans anymore.
Anyway.
This is sort of off-topic and I'm sure somebody's said it already but is anyone else reading it like "ex-bone"?
Would certainly be appropriate to describe the Xbox's current situation.

 

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mirage202 said:
Considering around half of those are likely to be EA sports games, they really don't.
And the other half will likely be stuff like this:



This is the audience Microsoft is after now.
 

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mirage202 said:
You do realise that this hypothetical situation only favours Microsoft and as we know EA aren't really known for wanting to cut off sales from themselves. A game like battlefield only being released on an Xbox? haha even EA aren't that stupid.

Now, onto FIFA and other sports games. According to wikipedia, FIFA 13 sold 14.5 million copies as of May this year. Now I'm not sure on the exact ratio of sales but I'd imagine 360 and PS3 sales would be similar. Furthermore, I wouldn't think the number of sales on PC would be that huge (hell, I'll just give an estimate of 1.5 million to make the following easy to follow). That leaves 13 million copies and if the split between the consoles is roughly 50/50, that make 6.5 million copies on each console. In no possible universe would EA benefit the potential loss of 6.5 million sales and that's not even including it's other games.

So, no, EA wont be going exclusive. They might allow earlier access to DLC or crap like that but other games already do that (COD) and it doesn't seem to change much.
 

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The only thing I think the Xbone has over the PS4 is the controller. I've never been a fan of the placement of the left side analogue stick on the Dual Shocks. I started on the N64, then Gamecube, then Xbox, then 360. I've never gotten used to the lower placement, it just irks the crap out of me...
 

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Good news Microsoft aren't really loosing their marbels..

http://www.vg247.com/2013/05/24/xbox-one-microsoft-aims-for-1-billion-lifetime-sales-100-million-xbox-360-units/

Xbox One: Microsoft aims for 1 billion lifetime sales, 100 million Xbox 360 units

Microsoft?s senior vice president of Interactive Entertainment Business Yusuf Mehdi has stated that given the broad multimedia focus of Xbox One, there?s no reason why it can?t shift between 400 million and 1 billion consoles in its lifetime. He said the company is also angling for 100 million Xbox 360 console sales in the next five years.

Speaking with OXM, Mehdi said of Microsoft?s hopes for Xbox 360, ?We believe over the next five years we can break a 100 million unit installed base. That?s something we?re shooting for, it?s not a financial plan as such, it?s just rough numbers if you will.

?To sell another 25 million, half of those will probably come from replacements, but half will come from new buyers. And the way we?ll break into those segments is by hitting new price points, getting new classes of entertainment to come with the Xbox, and breaking into new customer segments. So you?ll see the Xbox 360 continue to exist, even as we launch the next generation Xbox One.?

On the subject of Xbox One sales and the growth of the market with the herald of next-gen formats, Mehdi continued, ?Every generation, as you?ve probably heard, has grown approximately 30%. So this generation is about 300 million units. Most industry experts think the next generation will get upwards of about 400 million units. That?s if it?s a game console, over the next decade.

?We think you can go broader than a game console, that?s our aim, and you can go from 400 million to potentially upwards of a billion units. That?s how we?re thinking of the Xbox opportunity as we go forward.?
Oh wait..
 

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Colt47 said:
The controller is the most positive thing out of the announcement. People have been asking for a better D-Pad on a 360 controller since the 360 got released, and while they did fix the issue somewhat with the newer edition of the controller, the Xbox One controller D-Pad sounds like it comes closer to what people expect.
I think the controller is a disaster waiting to happen actually, the ability to give feedback to triggers means delicate moving parts that get smashed on all the time during twitch gaming.


Stuff they got right: 8 gigs of RAM, though even that's a bit tempered by it being slower RAM than the PS4 (depends on if this means it'll actually be cheaper than the PS4 I suppose, but given the other unnecessary crap I doubt it).

Apparently it will have screenshots, which might be nice, depends on how much of a pain in that ass it'll be to post them on places that aren't some MS website or Facebook.
 

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Cooperblack said:
Good news Microsoft aren't really loosing their marbels..

http://www.vg247.com/2013/05/24/xbox-one-microsoft-aims-for-1-billion-lifetime-sales-100-million-xbox-360-units/

Xbox One: Microsoft aims for 1 billion lifetime sales, 100 million Xbox 360 units

Microsoft?s senior vice president of Interactive Entertainment Business Yusuf Mehdi has stated that given the broad multimedia focus of Xbox One, there?s no reason why it can?t shift between 400 million and 1 billion consoles in its lifetime. He said the company is also angling for 100 million Xbox 360 console sales in the next five years.

Speaking with OXM, Mehdi said of Microsoft?s hopes for Xbox 360, ?We believe over the next five years we can break a 100 million unit installed base. That?s something we?re shooting for, it?s not a financial plan as such, it?s just rough numbers if you will.

?To sell another 25 million, half of those will probably come from replacements, but half will come from new buyers. And the way we?ll break into those segments is by hitting new price points, getting new classes of entertainment to come with the Xbox, and breaking into new customer segments. So you?ll see the Xbox 360 continue to exist, even as we launch the next generation Xbox One.?

On the subject of Xbox One sales and the growth of the market with the herald of next-gen formats, Mehdi continued, ?Every generation, as you?ve probably heard, has grown approximately 30%. So this generation is about 300 million units. Most industry experts think the next generation will get upwards of about 400 million units. That?s if it?s a game console, over the next decade.

?We think you can go broader than a game console, that?s our aim, and you can go from 400 million to potentially upwards of a billion units. That?s how we?re thinking of the Xbox opportunity as we go forward.?
Oh wait..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FopyRHHlt3M
 

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To be honest, I do like all the things that it can do like TV and shit, I just wish that wasn't the entire fucking show. So yes, the new features are cool, but should have only taken 10 minutes to go over. Everything else should have been games.

Cooperblack said:
Good news Microsoft aren't really loosing their marbels..

http://www.vg247.com/2013/05/24/xbox-one-microsoft-aims-for-1-billion-lifetime-sales-100-million-xbox-360-units/
That was seriously painful to read. I mean come the fuck on, can't they get that the Xbone probably wont even break 100million? Shit, I wouldn't be surprised if it doesn't even break 50.
 

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I dunno, Call of Duty does sell more than anything else every year it's relased. I don't expect it to be different to the last one ("we didn't want to play it safe" HAH!).

Other than that the reveal sucked. I was extemely dissapointed. I really thought they were gonna blow PS4, but I guess I know what will be the platform of choice of the next gen.
 

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I haven't heard it called the X-bone before... hee hee

I never liked M$'s controllers, so I've never owned an XBox... even though Rock Band would be better on one, I had a PS3 and eventually started my DLC collection on one...

anyway

I wish M$ well, and I hope for their sake that this entire campaign is a charade... and when they actually launch their product they can say "Fooled you! Actually, the x-box one...four-hundred-forty (XB 1440 - twice as good as 720) is super awesome and doesn't do any creepy shit, doesn't have to be constantly online and is 100% backwards compatible. Seriously. There's even ports for old atari 2600 cartridges in the back."

How they can fail so hard at basic things is just mind-boggling.
 

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Bonecrusher said:
KarmaTheAlligator said:
So far, I've seen nothing that could be considered as good about the Xbone.
Same here.

Xbone announcement showed features only addressing towards US customers - COD, NFL and American TV channels.
I think Microsoft doesn't care EU/JP customers. May be this behaviour of theirs will change in E3, and they may show some content and games for EU/JP gamers.
I've said before that the US usually forgets that there's a world outside their borders, but I'm surprised at how poorly thought out the whole thing is this time.
 

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Cooperblack said:
Good news Microsoft aren't really loosing their marbels..

http://www.vg247.com/2013/05/24/xbox-one-microsoft-aims-for-1-billion-lifetime-sales-100-million-xbox-360-units/

Xbox One: Microsoft aims for 1 billion lifetime sales, 100 million Xbox 360 units

Microsoft?s senior vice president of Interactive Entertainment Business Yusuf Mehdi has stated that given the broad multimedia focus of Xbox One, there?s no reason why it can?t shift between 400 million and 1 billion consoles in its lifetime.
Oh wait..
Yeah, because everyone is watching TV today and isn't hardwired to their cell phones and tablets.

Oh gosh, that casual audience is a kind that is shrinking fast. Microsoft should ask Apple how their Apple TV device sells. Even at a fraction of the price of the XBOX One. They would tell them it is nice but nothing near the tablet market as a multimedia device.

The comparisons to a Philips CD-i, Jaguar, and Dreamcast are all wrong. This thing is a 3DO. It is trying to be too many things. The niche of people who want a TV box like this will want an Apple TV device or something. Not a $400 or so video game system.

Okay, maybe somewhere between a Philips CD-i, Jaguar, and 3DO. But I'm getting these weird 3DO vibes from the system.

Nah, I'm crazy. I think Phillips marketed their system more as a multimedia device than 3DO. That being said, it's going to fail like one of these things.
 

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The Xbox One is Microsoft's first big toward getting away from making video game consoles and I say good riddance to bad rubbish. I think Moviebob called this one back in 2008.

 

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Atmos Duality said:
It was the best advertisement for the PS4 I've ever seen?

Hmm...uh...I honestly cannot think of anything.
Oh oh! They have Call of Dut-HAHAHAHAAHA!!!

Sorry. I can't finish that sentence.
They did nothing correct in terms of wanting to get me to buy one.

I am at best, met with apathy and ambivalence, and at worst, outright revulsion.
Ditto here
 

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The controller seems pretty good. It's pretty much the same thing as before, but hey, at least it didn't get worse.

Expecting a subscription fee for the battery recharge though, with the way things are going.
 

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Bit surprised this hasn't come up yet, but 8 new IPs in the first year exclusives. New IPs are often the system selling games for me, so it's nice to see one of the companies actually care about giving their system some new, defining, only-get-it-here content.

Granted, I won't be buying one anyway for all the various previously stated reasons, and chances are I'll hate the new IPs once they're announced- but good on them for trying!
 

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the antithesis said:
The Xbox One is Microsoft's first big toward getting away from making video game consoles and I say good riddance to bad rubbish. I think Moviebob called this one back in 2008.

Well, that seems to make a mixed message argument. It seems to be pretty well for the casual audience. Which is exactly what Microsoft is going for. The problem is that the tablet market stole them away a long time ago. Not sure I would use this against the XBOX One. Aside from the fact it's a Collar Duty system.

What I do agree with is that making games for kids isn't something to be ashamed of. Nor is making toys. In fact I think this video is an excelling argument for jRPGs. I hear a lot of gamers today complaining about how jRPGs are about kids and for kids. When there's nothing wrong with that and Pokemon still does quite well.

If anything, jRPGs today aren't doing enough to attempt to cater to younger fans.

Again, I keep hearing criticism about jRPGs in that they're "all about kids". And that they "need to be about adults". I think that's the last thing jRPGs need to do in order to become successful in the long run. And I think that video illustrates my point. It isn't as if it is impossible for a new generation of kids to fall in love with jRPGs. In fact many are, with the Nintendo DS.

Maybe this sort of thing is why the Wii U can eventually recover and do really well this generation. It at least have backwards compatibility going for it. I think this underdog is eventually going to do really well when some games that people really want come out. Nintendo isn't for kids. It has always been for all ages. And that is a good thing.