What Ethnic Group Will Replace Nazis?

Scrustle

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I thought that Nazis were replaced quite a while ago by Middle Eastern terrorists and zombies. Middle Eastern terrorists might get offended but no-one cares. They're already offended by everything so much that they make themselves look like cartoon characters. And zombies are zombies.

But you can't kill Vikings! Vikings are awesome! Yeah, they did some morally questionable things but they have awesome gods and mythology and blah blah blah. Everybody loves Vikings and no-one wants to kill them. We want to be them.

Draconalis said:
My vote goes to the Amish.
Genius! They wouldn't even know they were even in any game!
 

WanderingFool

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Yankeedoodles said:
Why would there need to be a Western European? Wheeler was already there representing the West. Granted Wheeler was a bit of prick, but still...
Funny thing, while Wheeler was a prick in most, if not all cases, he was still right about some things. Look up "Strawman has a Point" on TVTropes and look under Western Animation.

Also, I think the Blonde chick was from Europe... or maybe it was Russia...
 

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Casual Shinji said:
Yes, but that wouldn't be taking the defeated German mindset into account.
Okay, my mistake for using something with a historical basis there.

Because if you were selling a book any country entitled "In 20 Years You'll be Known as a Bunch of Genocidal Megalomaniacs" you wouldn't get many buyers, no matter how right you turned out to be.



WanderingFool said:
Also, I think the Blonde chick was from Europe... or maybe it was Russia...
"The Soviet Union" when the show started, but they changed it to "Eastern Europe" later because of that whole no-more-Soviet-Union thing and for some reason didn't want to say "Russia".
 

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I don't think any historical groups would really replace the Nazis because they have become the bogie men of the Post-Enlightenment era.

No one really sees Mongol, Huns, Vikings, or any of the other hundreds of murdering groups out there as anything really evil because they were uncivilized barbarians and consequently their rampages were excused. Hence why we see Spartans as cool but modern day militarized societies are looked down on.

The Nazis represent more than just barbarity. In an era where we expect people to know better, they incorporated systematic killing into their society. They were sophisticated killers rather than mindless brutes who used the advances of civilization for terrible crimes. Notice how the Vikings, Mongols, and such didn't actually progress while they were conquering and raiding.
 

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...suffice to say that the fact that there can possibly be any debate as to whether torture is ever justified goes to prove how much evolving we as a species still need to do. Nobody "deserves" to be tortured, and anyone who attempts to justify it is an utterly toxic character...
A not very long time ago there was alot of controversy in Germany because a police officer [a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2003/04/10/world/kidnapping-has-germans-debating-police-torture.html"]threatened a man with torture[/a]. There was 100% conclusive evidence that the man had kidnapped and abused a child who might still be alive, and the police officer wanted to press the location of the child out of him. It worked, the child was already dead, and if I remember correctly, the police officer was fined 5000?.

Just food for thought.

Yahtzee Croshaw said:
Essentially they're the whole reason dipshits still debate torture on internet forums.
Sorry.
 

beleester

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Vanquish had Russian robots, which I thought was a nice variation on the theme. And a short sequence where you gunned down US Marines.
 

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The problem with choosing the next favorite bad guy is that there no longer is an accepted majority. you cannot select any race or color without upsetting someone, rightfully so arguably.

Nazis are so easy, even the germans think they were bad, back in the Hitler haydays.

Islamists? meh, that's just adding oil to the fire, pun in fact intended.
Russians? meh, old and beaten (by Rambo and Rocky a long time ago)

Best bet would be to pick your favorite military dictator, used some mixed facts and fiction and that would be a seller. Rwanda massacre anyone? North Korea is pretty bad as i hear, not a good place to have an opinion.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Military_dictatorship

My personal pick goes toward Chinese, with reserves. They notoriously protect themselves from outsiders, share little, copy a lot, have a great military and, as found lately, seem to be involved in US military chips backdoor, all in all, fairly involved in espionnage and not in favor of liberty of speech, or liberty itself for that matter and whatever else we stand for.

Although, its not REALLY up for grabs. Hollywood's on it. they've historically set the tone on what we must think of others. Their last trend of "the enemy within" is getting exhausted, watch the latest blockbusters for the answer!
 

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Istvan said:
Nazis aren't an ethnic group they're a political group :V

Also all Danes are Viking warriors still and we routinely raid Britain, we're just stealthy now. Thank Odin for the cardboard box.
Would you not agree that Yahtzee's disparaging of Vikings and blonds calls for a good plundering of Australia?

Scandinavians and Viking diaspora unite!
 

BloodRed Pixel

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Nomanslander said:
Simple, the French.

Honestly I've gotten tired of killing Nazis because in the end I like the Germans, well the generations since then at least. But as for the French, I don't think there's been a time in the world anyone has ever liked them. They can be more smug than the English, more harsh than the Germans, and bigger assholes than the Americans. I really think they can be the perfect villains, and a delight to murder in the masses. But then again there's that whole surrendering thing they're known for, with that I say have it take place in Napoleonic Era when they supposedly had a lot more balls and it'll be perfect...^^
While I am totally with you on that there is ONE BIG PROBLEM with the French villain:

"French is like wiping you ass with silk" (Matrix Reloded)

Seriously - WHO will not die from laughing when the villains try to threaten you in French - Instant Comedy!
Same goes for Switzerland. So, my number 2 villain is the USA!

No.1 is still Nazies and Zombies. I like shooting them best, by a long shot (pun intended)


an Food for Brain: What is wrong with shooting Marsians (and Aliens in General)???
 

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I dunno, I stand by the "Ghengis Khan wasn't all that nice." Yeah, he'd offer a choice of enslavement or death. What a guy! Seriously, the Mongols killed so many people that some researchers think it precipitated a period of global cooling (less people burning wood==less carbon footprint) No, seriously:
http://www.astrobio.net/blog/?p=1104

I think the lack of decent villains is another reason for the popularity of zombies (and the occasional killer robot). They're already dead, you can't reason with them, kill 'em with impunity. Alas, zombies not being all that bright makes for a less satisfying villain-- but hey, at least the AI is easier to program.
 

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Domoslaf said:
Ekonk said:
TL;DR Mongols hardly that bad, certainly not on par with the Nazis.
Life was also pretty sweet for Germans in Nazi Germany, that's just how it is when you're at the correct end of the unstoppable war machine.
This. Its not that the empire was burglars-free, but robbery was so severely punished it wasn't worthy. Again, living in an mighty military-state can do wonders for your safety (at the expense of your freedom)

P.S.: Yahtzee, don't complain about not having a Planeteer. You had two to represent you (one for Europe and one for English speakers), and they had pretty useful powers to match (wind and fire). Instead, we got a filler character, who writers couldn't even bother to give an elemental power (heart? are you serious?). Oceania had it worst, though...
 

odolwa

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"They went around conquering a load of places without even asking first..."

Actually, they did. They would send a scout ahead to the city they were going to invade, with demands of tributes and such. If the city elders refused, they were destoyed. :)
 

Azurian

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Space zombies we have kill lots of zombies on earth but never any zombies from space it could be lots of fun.
 

The Great JT

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Spartans. Those guys were massive, MASSIVE dicks, despite what 300 would have you believe.

Plus, you really want a Planeteer from western Europe, Yahtzee? I'm sure you've seen that show and you should be thankful there isn't one. That show was garbage.
 

DonTsetsi

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It's hard to select bad guys from history. Every people has a bloody history, even the new ones (cough... Native Americans... cough....). And some are proud of it. For example, I am proud to belong to a people whose king drank from the skull of the Byzantine Emperor.
 

Bostur

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Or we could stop trying to find subjects suitable for being demonized, and start killing regular nice chaps. Thats what happens in real wars after all. Unfortunately that would make games with these war settings unsuitable for propaganda, which I suppose is the whole point.
 

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FOX Media execs. I mean, they're going to make shit up to lambast the industry anyway.

Speaking of which, when did those jackasses get a monopoly on online news in Australia? Or heck, a foothold to begin with? I can practically smell the nation getting more ignorant.