What Ethnic Group Will Replace Nazis?

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Ethnic group? I realize the Nazi's hate everyone, but they're so fucking stupid that their iron fisted behaviour has blackened all dictatorships since they were around. People think the KGB just kicks in doors while spouting political crap and killing people all because its how the Gestapo behaved. Nazi's aren't an ethnic group, hell I've heard tell that quite a bit of their membership was partially Jewish! They're a bullshit political movement.

As for who would make enemies akin to them next? It'll either be some country kicked out of the EU due to economic strain, leading to a resentful population rebuilding its economy on war's back, or else it will be the US. There aren't any other real options out there from the looks of things. Although, if Putin's political faction is annihilated in the next election it could be Russia. Their youth long for better days, days their parents tell them they saw - itself a terrifying idea. So many of them seek to form a fascist empire rather then a communist one, and preach white supremacy. The world turns and corpses naturally seem to turn in their graves with it.

Ignorance and poverty breed men and women into enemies of humanity. Seek the man with half a book and you've found the most dangerous adversary you can. Watch Greece closely if you want to find the next major threat to mankind akin to the Nazi's. Alone they couldn't muster what Germany did, but they aren't the only country in the EU suffering so much poverty they could be dumped from it. A unification of those nations abandon by the EU for financial reasons could give rise to the next great enemy of mankind with relative ease.

And I would add that the impossibility of the task before such heinous states means nothing. Population density alone should have warned the German Senior Staff that the wars Hitler was starting were impossible to perceiver in, but it didn't.

Few movements have managed to so thoroughly divest themselves of beneficial anything as the Nazi movement has. And equally few are so damn impossible to apologize for. Its important to remember that this isn't a German thing, this is a Nazi thing. Nazi's suck. People should be desensitized to taking them out.
 

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XMark said:
PMCs always make for good evil enemies.
Until you start looking at their invoices and realize why your taxes are so high.

Nomanslander said:
Simple, the French...But as for the French, I don't think there's been a time in the world anyone has ever liked them.
Sez you. I'm halfway convinced the world would be better off if Napoleon had conquered it. But that might be because Napoleon was actually Corsican.
 

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Brits.

We have that offhand condescending superiority that drives the lesser races foreigners into a foaming frenzy of hatred, our long imperial history means we've been horrible to just about everyone at some time or other so everyone can be convinced that they're due some payback, and we're a (reasonably successful) multi cultural society nowadays so you can do colourblind casting for your villains.

Also the accents.

I think it's already happening. Killzone was bad enough - sure I expect the high ranking villains to have british accents, but I was genuinely taken aback when I saw clips of the rank and file sounding like british squaddies. (Leaving aside that the Helghast should be the protagonists anyway.)

But it was The Old Republic that really made me think "we're next." Again I was expecting the high ranks to be brits, but there's an imperial NPC early on with a welsh accent, so I guess that makes us all evil now.

 

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Why would there need to be a Western European? Wheeler was already there representing the West. Granted Wheeler was a bit of prick, but still...
 

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Casual Shinji said:
Why not simply set it in the future and have the enemy be France or Poland? Afterall, a nation's morals can greatly change across the ages, so we can use that as an excuse.
Because if you were selling a book in post-WWI Germany entitled "In 20 Years You'll be Known as a Bunch of Genocidal Megalomaniacs" you wouldn't get many buyers, no matter how right you were.
 

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My call would be sex offenders and/or religious zealots... though there might be backlash on the latter.

(Personally, I have nothing against shooting a Nazi "below the belt"... but I hate Nazis with a fervent passion, so what do I know?)
 

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Romans?

Like future Romans? Like an alternate history where Rome didn't become corrupt and fall?
 

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Catholic church. Is there something that is less popular nowadays? I would also add evil corporations. A game about attacking EA would be good fun! Mmm, I'd like an Assassin's Creed fighting those!
 

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Yankeedoodles said:
Why would there need to be a Western European? Wheeler was already there representing the West. Granted Wheeler was a bit of prick, but still...
Because in the opening, they made it abundantly clear he was from "North America". They actually outright stated it. Europe was sort of conflated with the soviet Union and Linka, with the power of wind.

 

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Always safe: Robots, zombies, aliens, mimes.

But seriously, 'ethnic group' doesn't work, since there's no ethnic group that's genetically irredeemable (jokes here) - it needs to be tied to some strongly nationalistic evil cartoon villain. Which is why Russia is so popular. How about Syria? - that's been pretty neglected.
 

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How about Belgians? Nobody would suspect it, and one of their Kings did commit atrocities in the Congo, and Belgium would bind its time while the super powers fought each other, weakening, then Belgium would strike. It would make a change from the Nazis as Villains either speaking German, German accented English, or just British sounding Nazis Aka (Hollywood Nazis). Also Belgium has two languages Dutch and French and it is a country made of two countries, Flanders and Walloonia with two ethnic groups, the Flemish and the Walloons. So if they conquered Europe it would crumble within over a domination dispute, actually that doesn't sound like a bad idea, that sounds like an interesting game, It would be different to say the least, 'Mid Distant Future, the Belgian Empire Conquers Europe but is engulfed in a Civil War, along with fighting resistance in occupied countries'. It may not be great to some or most, but its a change from fighting Nazis, Soviets, Communists, Zombies, Chinese, North Koreans and Occult Nazis all the time.
 

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rhizhim said:
ACman said:
Romans?

Like future Romans? Like an alternate history where Rome didn't become corrupt and fall?
romans from the dark side of the moon.

DVS BSTrD said:
The problem with your historical examples is that their infractions against human decency took place so long ago that its not possible to get the same schadenfreude factor. It would have to be somebody recent like Mexican drug lords, the Syrian army or gingers.
and no one says the Lord's Resistance Army.

didnt the kony fiasco gave you enough cut limbs and lips to just hate them?
I think the problem with a having a shooter featuring the lords resistance army is that you'd just be shooting black people.... Specifically black children....
 

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Formica Archonis said:
Casual Shinji said:
Why not simply set it in the future and have the enemy be France or Poland? Afterall, a nation's morals can greatly change across the ages, so we can use that as an excuse.
Because if you were selling a book in post-WWI Germany entitled "In 20 Years You'll be Known as a Bunch of Genocidal Megalomaniacs" you wouldn't get many buyers, no matter how right you were.
Yes, but that wouldn't be taking the defeated German mindset into account.

I don't mean a serious future war, but one where the warring nation in question is more like a moustach twirling Bond villain. It could be anyone, even Belgium.

Otherwise we'd have to go the Killzone route and have it be about a bunch of space colonists/miners taking up arms against Earth.
 

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Torture is sometimes necessary.

For example the Great Fire of London was only put up by the heroic intervention of an Iron Maiden on a pesky Catholic, who revealed where he and his pesky friends had set up the bomb.
 

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I thought that Nazis were replaced quite a while ago by Middle Eastern terrorists and zombies. Middle Eastern terrorists might get offended but no-one cares. They're already offended by everything so much that they make themselves look like cartoon characters. And zombies are zombies.

But you can't kill Vikings! Vikings are awesome! Yeah, they did some morally questionable things but they have awesome gods and mythology and blah blah blah. Everybody loves Vikings and no-one wants to kill them. We want to be them.

Draconalis said:
My vote goes to the Amish.
Genius! They wouldn't even know they were even in any game!
 

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Yankeedoodles said:
Why would there need to be a Western European? Wheeler was already there representing the West. Granted Wheeler was a bit of prick, but still...
Funny thing, while Wheeler was a prick in most, if not all cases, he was still right about some things. Look up "Strawman has a Point" on TVTropes and look under Western Animation.

Also, I think the Blonde chick was from Europe... or maybe it was Russia...
 

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Casual Shinji said:
Yes, but that wouldn't be taking the defeated German mindset into account.
Okay, my mistake for using something with a historical basis there.

Because if you were selling a book any country entitled "In 20 Years You'll be Known as a Bunch of Genocidal Megalomaniacs" you wouldn't get many buyers, no matter how right you turned out to be.



WanderingFool said:
Also, I think the Blonde chick was from Europe... or maybe it was Russia...
"The Soviet Union" when the show started, but they changed it to "Eastern Europe" later because of that whole no-more-Soviet-Union thing and for some reason didn't want to say "Russia".
 

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I don't think any historical groups would really replace the Nazis because they have become the bogie men of the Post-Enlightenment era.

No one really sees Mongol, Huns, Vikings, or any of the other hundreds of murdering groups out there as anything really evil because they were uncivilized barbarians and consequently their rampages were excused. Hence why we see Spartans as cool but modern day militarized societies are looked down on.

The Nazis represent more than just barbarity. In an era where we expect people to know better, they incorporated systematic killing into their society. They were sophisticated killers rather than mindless brutes who used the advances of civilization for terrible crimes. Notice how the Vikings, Mongols, and such didn't actually progress while they were conquering and raiding.