I don't quite understand this. You're saying I'm wrong? I guess if you repeat it enough without elaborating on WHY you'll eventually make it to be so. Culture does not dictate if something is ethically right or wrong. Especially if there is no practical response from someone's feelings. There is a reason why thought-crime is universally considered absurd.101flyboy said:You are wrong for it. Just because you don't like to be called wrong doesn't mean you're right. It doesn't mean you aren't wrong. You are in the wrong. It is what it is. You are making excuses for being wrong, I don't accept them, and in trying to get others to accept your wrongness you're making all kinds of logical fallacies.Abomination said:You asked me from a conceptual perspective, which given my earlier statement I assumed you were talking about from an evolutionary or natural-world perspective. The only thing I am justifying is someone being able to hold a personal revulsion or distaste towards something without being called "wrong" for it.
Actually, I don't feel revulsion towards two females or a heterosexual couple performing the same act. I would view them as gauche though, but I wouldn't have the same sense of revulsion - unless one or both of the party were also ugly.LOL..........why didn't you make that clear before? Hahaha. This entire conversation began with someone talking about basic affection between two men. Not two guys with their tongues down their throat. So why you continued jumping to that, I don't know. But there you go, you said you have NO problem and find it endearing to see two men showing loving affection within moderation.Two homosexual men raising a child? No problem, more than happy to see it. Two homosexual men engaged in sexually charged displays of affection? It makes me feel uncomfortable, I have revulsion towards it. Two homosexual men giving each other a peck on the lips or the cheek? No problem, I find it endearing.
That is the same with any group. Within moderation, many find it endearing and cute to see two people in love with one another. But that doesn't mean you want to see them snogging each other. And that's understandable. With that being said, given the fact you have admitted to believing homosexuality is unnatural and more or less wrong, then whatever disgust you do feel towards same-sex interaction probably revolves around that. It's not as if thinking homosexuality is unnatural and wrong will NOT affect the way you think of the subject as a whole. It will. It does.
As for affecting homosexuals - it doesn't. It flat out doesn't. None of my feelings are acted upon. Just THINKING something doesn't mean it will come about in any practical form. I can think someone deserves a right kick in the ass, it doesn't mean I'm going to act upon it. It does mean I will try and avoid that person. A feeling of revulsion watching two homosexual men have a kiss just means I will avert my gaze. If that is somehow repressing homosexuals everywhere I guess there's no hope for anyone in humanity anywhere.
This isn't about if homophobia is wrong or not, this is about having personal disgust when watching two homosexual men having a kiss. A disgust that is not shared when watching two homosexual women perform the EXACT SAME action or a heterosexual couple perform the EXACT SAME action. Calling it homophobia is not correct, as female homosexuals do not create that same revulsion. It is an issue of witnessing two MALES and only MALES perform the act on each other.Yes, there is something wrong with it. Having a negative view of homosexuality based on the fact you find it unnatural, which in itself is not true, is not a positive thing. It's a negative. It's a view that has a direct impact on the social standing of gay people. It is a view used to keep gay people on the fringes of society. Woman on woman action is homosexuality, too. It's not as if man on man is all homosexuality is.inally this had nothing to do with passing on the "homosexual gene" if it even exists. This was about how homosexuality, by its own application, removes its barer from the gene pool. Perhaps that's the reason why some straights feel revulsion towards men on men action? "That will not further our genetic code"? I don't know the EXACT reason for the cause of the revulsion but it's there and there's nothing wrong with it.
It's not really about babies. Most people don't have sex for children. It's a view based on ignorance and misinformation. It's an excuse people run to, to defend why they hold homophobic bias. It is not justifiable in any way. It's wrong. There are not two sides to this situation. Homophobia is wrong.
As much as two men can feel sexual attraction towards each other it is the same for a man to feel the exact opposite when it comes to other men. This is not a wrong feeling or sensation to have. You need to explain why it is wrong to prove it so, not just say it is because homosexuality is accepted.