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Matthew94 said:
Susan Arendt said:
Evil Smurf said:
Susan Arendt said:
Matthew94 said:
Susan Arendt said:
The community left Warcry in droves, but there were a few stalwart folks who hung on, and didn't want to just switch off the lights and tell them to bugger off, so we attempted to integrate the two communities a few years back. The problem was, while The Escapist forums had always been very heavily moderated, the Warcry forums never were, and so we were essentially asking people to play by rules they'd never agreed to follow. That was our mistake. They, in return, resented that the Escapist community was on "their turf" at all, and some reacted rather childishly, coming to these forums and freaking out, attacking users, etc. Some of us here thought merging the two communities was a bad idea from the start, and we were proven correct. Many aspects of communication were just plain mishandled. But we didn't "destroy" a website. It died a natural death. It served a very specific purpose that simply ceased to exist, and the Escapist was just too different for many Warcry users to embrace. Some did, and are now active members here, but many just didn't care for this content or this community. The rules were too strict, the conversation "too intellectual." Not much we could do about that.
But you kept the lights on anyway despite the fact that the site is dead and only used by about 4 users from the escapist.

Why bother integrating them if you are going to pay to keep the site running after all this time?
We talked about shutting it down, but there was no harm in letting it exist so that the handful of people who were left still had a place to go. The cost to maintain it is minimal, so we wouldn't really gain anything by switching off the lights. We could pull the plug, simply haven't yet. And the attempt at integration happened a few years ago, in an attempt to revitalize the community.
Why not have it moderated? Remove those nasty bots?
We don't have an overly compelling reason to devote resources to something that's barely used, though the proliferation of bots is news to me.
Last I checked the mods were people from the community. They aren't "resources".
okay, what resources would you use to clean up warcry?
 

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I think the better question is that why is it still running or why isn't it shut down already?

I had a look around at that site and yeah it's a ghost town and a former shell of itself. I mean look at the news and it hasn't been updated since last year!
I did read that sad story on page 1 (which sadly it seen we dominated them and driven our sister website members away or onto here) which I think it's better to take it at the back of the woods to finish it off than to continue to be left in a depressing state.
 

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it makes me feel sad and unclean But if it was war we won but now the spambots are getting strong
 

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Scarim Coral said:
I think the better question is that why is it still running or why isn't it shut down already?

I had a look around at that site and yeah it's a ghost town and a former shell of itself. I mean look at the news and it hasn't been updated since last year!
I did read that sad story on page 1 (which sadly it seen we dominated them and driven our sister website members away or onto here) which I think it's better to take it at the back of the woods to finish it off than to continue to be left in a depressing state.
Susan already answered your question.

As for the 'sad' story on page 1? I was the one who compiled the moderator abuse of power report on mrcheese; let's be generous and say he's spun that story like a politician.
 

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paulgruberman said:
Scarim Coral said:
I think the better question is that why is it still running or why isn't it shut down already?

I had a look around at that site and yeah it's a ghost town and a former shell of itself. I mean look at the news and it hasn't been updated since last year!
I did read that sad story on page 1 (which sadly it seen we dominated them and driven our sister website members away or onto here) which I think it's better to take it at the back of the woods to finish it off than to continue to be left in a depressing state.
Susan already answered your question.

As for the 'sad' story on page 1? I was the one who compiled the moderator abuse of power report on mrcheese; let's be generous and say he's spun that story like a politician.
Ok fair enough, I should had read both side of the stories. From Susan comments, if I got it right, should any remaining members from the Warcry had all left (all of them) or when the "resources" is absolutely zero, that is probably when it should be consider to shut Warcry down or something like that?
 

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Luftwaffles said:
Did some digging

most of the Warcry regulars went there once and deemed it pseudo-intellectuals and children arguing over meaningless drivel
Thing is, after having a brief look at the Warcry forums, the very thing these guys apparently hated about the escapists, is what they looked like by being.. well such asses about it all, they seem like a bunch of pseudo-intellectuals, arguing about a few spammers on their beloved forums that would get banned anyway.. I just.. What.

Either way, never been a huge fan of forums period, only really like Escapist because you find the right mix of cheap laughs and intelligence. Interesting read though, like the feud of two great houses who's children married, THE ROMEO AND JULIET OF OUR TIME!
 

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Scarim Coral said:
Ok fair enough, I should read both side of the stories. From Susan comments, if I got it right, should any remaining members from the Warcry had all left (all of them) or when the "resources" is absolutely zero, that is probably when it should be consider to shut Warcry down or something like that?
There's no conditions set for shutting it down.

The only difference between the two sites has been cosmetic. Think of it like two rows of seats on a bus - they share the same frame and engine, with just a slightly different view out the window. The 'merge' was just us pointing out the seats on the other side.
 

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canadamus_prime said:
I think we may have finally found that mythic basement that we're always warning new users about.
And the basement is filled with skeletons, cobwebs and Skynet. All the rumours were true! :O
 

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I paid a visit to the site. So creepy to be walking on dead earth. Felt much like the first time I walked through the Plaugelands in WoW.
 

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Secret world leader (shhh) said:
Waitwaitwait...guys...I've just thought of something...

...is Warcry The Basement?
Yes.

And if anyone wants to help revive Warcry they can go here: http://www.warcry.com/forums/read/12.385930-Operation-Revive-Warcry#15363092
 
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Evil Smurf said:
Secret world leader (shhh) said:
Waitwaitwait...guys...I've just thought of something...

...is Warcry The Basement?
Yes.

And if anyone wants to help revive Warcry they can go here: http://www.warcry.com/forums/read/12.385930-Operation-Revive-Warcry#15363092
But...we're not supposed to go in The Basement! It's literally Rule #1 of the Escapist!
 

Evil Smurf

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Secret world leader (shhh) said:
Evil Smurf said:
Secret world leader (shhh) said:
Waitwaitwait...guys...I've just thought of something...

...is Warcry The Basement?
Yes.

And if anyone wants to help revive Warcry they can go here: http://www.warcry.com/forums/read/12.385930-Operation-Revive-Warcry#15363092
But...we're not supposed to go in The Basement! It's literally Rule #1 of the Escapist!
drastic times my friend, they call for drastic measures. Besides I don't go by the book, I follow my intuition and that makes me the best damn cop on the force.
 

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Eh, I had a lurk around there a few times way back when I had just joined (2008ish) after I realised there were forums over there.

It was....kinda meh to be completely honest. The threads I found were on par with Gamefaqs in terms of quality, the people were borderline hostile and moderators were nothing like the Escapist's beloved mods (though I should mention here that I took several long breaks from the Escapist and drama has an affection for communities so I'm not entirely sure if I should still be calling them beloved, the fact no one says their names anymore rings large "social cue" type alarm bells in my paranoid head.); the ones I remember from my brief trips were more like the mods you find on small fan run forums, slight them or anything they love at your peril.

Rot in peace dead forum.

The only use I've had for it is as a mirror for usergroups way back when the Escapist was getting timed out and then later when usergroups were derping over here.

I suspect that it's left alive as an experiment to see what spam bots do when left to run wild in their natural enviroment, rather like the Religion and Politics sub-forum and trolls
 

Andy Shandy

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I must admit, I don't see a huge amount of point in trying to revive the forum. All it would be like is here, pretty much. It is nice to visit for novelty value I'll admit.

If the forum does become a bigger change than I anticipate, I would check it out though.
 

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Daystar Clarion said:
Nightmoon [http://www.escapistmagazine.com/profiles/view/Nightmoon+Noiralc]


Kind of sucks that the profile seems to be inactive now...

Had potential for wicked fun times.

Holy Shit, a twin magically appeared!

...the idea of a second person just like Daystar scares me!

This universe can only withstand one!
 

Lucem712

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Shadie777 said:
Daystar Clarion said:
Nightmoon [http://www.escapistmagazine.com/profiles/view/Nightmoon+Noiralc]


Kind of sucks that the profile seems to be inactive now...

Had potential for wicked fun times.

Holy Shit, a twin magically appeared!

...the idea of a second person just like Daystar scares me!

This universe can only withstand one!
I'm pretty sure WarCry is the Anti-Universe and we should be glad they are inactive...for if he and Daystay were to touch...blam-o!
 

Vault101

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wow...interesting story...

in fact the place seems like an interesting place to visit



just bring some Rad-away