RedEyesBlackGamer said:
Woodsey said:
RedEyesBlackGamer said:
I have raged against the railroading (I have to work with Cerberus?),.
I have to work with the Alliance? I have to become a Spectre? I have to oppose Saren?
There's always some railroading, and you at least have the chance to play it as if you are undermining them or agree with them (or a mix).
Those are different. My Paragon Shepard wouldn't work with Cerberus. He destroyed three of their bases, his whole team was killed because of them, they are radically pro-human. And I never worked with the Alliance. I did missions they gave/suggested to me, but I made it clear that I was a Spectre now (like saying fuck you to the ship inspection guy).
I completely agree. I am a huge Bioware fanboy. I own at least one copy of every game they've made, two of several, at least 4 of KOTOR (two on Xbox, because I lost one for a while, one on Steam, one on physical media). I signed up for SWTOR the day it was available, I bought the freakin' item packs on DA2, for god's sake. I'm not a hater, looking to cap on them at my first chance. And to be clear, I have preordered ME3 already, just in case they do another "pre-orders get Signature Editions" bit.
My first thought on playing ME2 was "Wait, excuse me? Cerberus? Aren't they horrible, awful people? Didn't I spend a lot of my time last game thwarting them?" I had honestly thought they might be the bad guys in ME2. And suddenly Martin Sheen is explaining that I should work for them. And my choices are "Okay," "*sigh*, okay," and "No! Well, okay." I get that once it was laid in that you'd work for Cerberus, you can't have a "no" choice. I contend that making Cerberus the "good" guys was a bad choice.
I got over it, kinda. I spent every mission going "Dammit, why am I doing this for them?" at least once. I chose the "They're dicks, but I guess I'm kinda weak willed" option whenever I could. I avoided going to talk to the Illusive Man whenever I could. I can honestly say it spoiled the game somewhat for me every time I was reminded I was working for them. And while we're at it, Bioware, usually you at least put the super connected all powerful archetype in the background a bit, and let us pretend we have our own goals. It kinda annoyed me to have TIM right there, lording it over me. Sure you're smart - you're a plot NPC! If I had the script, I could totally make those connections too!
I totally agree that the worst Bioware game is what other companies wish they could do. And I guess, on reflection, ME2 might be the worst Bioware game. It's still in my top 20 games. And I still recommend it to everyone I know.