How about adding a longneck or sharptooth to that team? The Land Before Time is a Lucasfilm movie, and who doesn't want a dinosaur helping him or her?
What Should Have Happened to George Lucas
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C'mon people! Indy4 was cool. I was just disappointing about the choice of actor for his son. I mean Indy is this handsome 6'-something character and his son is a shortass dustfarter!? I liked Shia in Even Stevens, he was funny, but he isn't really a character I can identify with in blockbuster movies.
Seeing the title of that news post, I swear to god I believed in my heart that it was genuine for a second D:
But that's okay. The prequels gave us some cool stuff. Like Genndy Tartakovsky's 2D Clone Wars series. Or Ki-Adi Mundi, Plo Koon, Kit Fisto and Shaak Ti. In fact, why are all the best Jedi fucking mute in the movies? God damnit.
But that's okay. The prequels gave us some cool stuff. Like Genndy Tartakovsky's 2D Clone Wars series. Or Ki-Adi Mundi, Plo Koon, Kit Fisto and Shaak Ti. In fact, why are all the best Jedi fucking mute in the movies? God damnit.
Coincidentally someone on Moviebob's blog said they liked the prequels and that the original trilogy was boring. I am DEAD fucking seriousApollo45 said:
This very joke has already been made, it was done in a Simpsons comic around a year or two ago, except instead of being kidnapped by aliens he was kidnapped whilst in Mexico and forced to make pinatas. The very joke mentioned that he was kidnapped in the late 80's.
When he returned he beat the shit out of the fake Lucas.
Yeah, I'm willing to say this was ripped right off.
EDIT: Searching for the issue number now for proof.
When he returned he beat the shit out of the fake Lucas.
Yeah, I'm willing to say this was ripped right off.
EDIT: Searching for the issue number now for proof.
As always, there are "fans" who seek to destroy. But listen carefully, young padwan, and I shall explain the heart of the True fan.j-e-f-f-e-r-s said:
The True fan remembers the days before Star Wars, where life was long, summers were hot and insecty, and 99 Flakes were still under a pound.
It was a time of great hardship across the country, droughts were everywhere, money was short and nuclear annihilation was our future. Our escape was to the television and its new colour, where we could see worlds unlike our own where heroes still stood proud.
Then came Star Wars. And we were enthralled. From the deepest depths of space, a Rebellion ran ahead of the Giant Destroyer, and we ran with the Rebellion, swinging our sticks with enough force for our parents to cut our sweet ration for months.
Then came Empire and we choked. Gone was the Rebel's power, and the atmosphere had changed. We had to rescue Han now.
Return started well. We all thought Luke had laid his cards too low, and then SLASH-SLASH, he was free. And some of us started wondering why that golden bikini kept our attention.
Then came the great loss. We still clung to the great parts X-Wing, Tie Fighter, Star Wars:RPG, the action figures....
And then the news...Phantom Menace.
Immediately some of us had forebodings...Phantom Menace? Doesn't really sound too...Star Wars...does it?
And then some of us saw it...
The doughnut, the shrugging dishevelled Jedi, the stupid robots...
The greatest part of the original Trilogy wasn't the lightsabers, it wasn't Carrie Fisher, Mark Hamill or Dave Prowse...or even Peter Cushing - though they all carried it.
It was the film treated us like adults. This was a children's film that didn't pull punches.
Luke SUFFERED. Vader MENACED. Han SQUEALED. Leia KICKED ASS.
And then the re-writing.
As you say, Return had some pretty poignant moments, I remember crying when the Ewok never got up. We were attached to them.
And then the re-writing.
We didn't care so much that Alec Guinness might not have liked it, we ignored the Xmas Special, we had already made our own stories.
AND THEN THE RE-WRITING.
Snip snip snip
Our dreams fluttered.
The Dark Storm of the Empire became a bratty little kid. The Jedi Master became a whiny little teen. They met up with a cartoon rabbit. They dived under water for no reason. There were stupid robots. The lightsabre scenes were like West Side Story.
WHAT. THE. FORCE.?
Oh yeah. MIDI-FUCKING-CHLORIANS.
You know what's worse than having your dreams crushed? Having your dreams crushed, then re-written and then the old versions destroyed.
Star Wars, for a lot of us, represents one of the defining moments where we defined ourselves as nerds, film buffs or simply fancying girls in gold bikinis.
It's not about what we want. It's about continuing what we had, so that our kids can feel the same way.
Doctor Who is a children's TV series. Children are not and have never been morons.
Bring back some of the shows that actually want to treat kids like adults, and not monkeys for you to flash your 3D Stereoscopic Boob Explosions to.
That is all.
*begins slow clap*The_root_of_all_evil said:
This is what I'm talking about. You watch Star Wars (and no, I won't call it "A New Hope") and it is for both children and adults. It doesn't talk down to the audience. I mean, come on, look at this. "I hate sand." or "so have you, grown more beautiful." or "Anakin.. you're breaking my heart." or "She's losing the will to live.." WHO TALKS LIKE THAT?! (And I know the original trilogy didn't have the best writing, but the prequels were very groan worthy).
You can see in retrospect how the original trilogy was truly a collaboration of efforts with writing, directing, special effects, etc. He had a team that he worked with that tweaked everything as it went along. As soon as Lucas had nothing but "yes men", you get the prequels (read: garbage. Yes, even the third one.)
Logic of the ending; to make Star Wars look bad, and make Star Trek look even better by comparison was the reasoning to do it.HankMan said:
Now bare with me. This is the first time I tried one of these.
I guess there was just room in the sky.....
*Puts on glasses*
For one Star.
You duel well, sir. Let me riposte slightly.j-e-f-f-e-r-s said:
I contend that while the Prequels have adult material, they don't have adult writing. The romance between Padme and Anakin is more than laughable, even for a child's eye view of romance. And that can't be blamed solely on poor Hayden/Portman. The greatest proponents of romance would have trouble with those lines.
Children understand the need for a protagonist/antagonist, even if they don't have words for it. Phantom Menace fails these first simple rules. There is no clear Hero and no clear Villain.
Also, everyone (even Palpatine) acts like an idiot. There's no charm to the characters, no life and certainly no "IWANNABELIKEHIMWHENIGROWUP!".
Apart from maybe Darth Maul. Who has no personality.
People who make demands over what Lucas puts in to the film are missing the point. It's not about what he puts in, it's about how he treats them. Jar-Jar isn't vile because of the animation. It's because he's a calculated plant.
Everything in the sequels had that "rough and ready" feel, which is why a lot of us loved it. It's easy to tell a heroic story if your backdrop already looks like a spaghetti western. Cleaning it up - "The Special Editions" - actually attacks the look/feel. It'd be like having Duke Nukem in browns and greys.
It's unsaid. It's implicit. That's where we should have left it. DV is a total goit but when he walks through the steam, you're petrified. He's a dire, dark looming presence. Not a troubled teen. He's a badass.
That's his entrance. You don't go back and show how he never got asked out at the prom. That's just character assassination. Vader's defining moments are "Don't fuck with me" moments. Not "Waaaaaah, I miss my gf".
But there's no way you can expect this guy to be a protagonist then. He's the classic "friend gone bad". DV shouldn't have been anything more than a sketchnote in the prequels.
See, I don't believe they did. After Star Wars, there would be Star Wars themed everything.
As a fan of the prequels, which character from the prequels would you dress as?
I assure you that every sequel fan knows exactly who they would dress as, and why.
If I remember rightly...
Mother: "Who's he then?"
Father: "Michael, get down off the seat."
See, I disagree here because I think you're being too harsh on us older fans.
Most of us that saw the originals went into finding out how the films had worked. Introducing a lot of us to Joseph Campbell and the like; and then we forgot about Star Wars.
Until they talked of bringing it back - and then we were "OMGIWANNANEWFILM" all over again. We'd been keeping up with the excellent Tie Fighter, X-Wing, Battlegrounds and similar ideas. Hell, Firefly/Serenity takes a huge chunk from Star Wars.
I didn't see Phantom Menace until a year after it came out. I was appalled - I seem to remember giving up halfway through to design a Vampire character.
That's not why I don't like them. I've seen enough boring films.
What I don't like is how the prequels OVERWRITE the sequels. Vader is always Hayden Christiansen. Kenobi is always Ewan Mcgregor.
That.
Is.
Wrong.
This is also mis-informed.
If you ever have seen me watching Sucker Punch (some here have), Doctor Who or Toy Story 3 - you'd know I still keep my children's eyes at times. And I still have to be told to get off the back of the seats.
Lucas doesn't have a directing style anymore. He's admitted as much himself. He has an IP that he rolls out - but his style was always based on Art over Adversity. Without Adversity, it's just Money over Material.
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Thinking about it: this is just the circle completing itself. You can't see how I would want to protect the sequels, I can't see how you would want to protect the prequels. I suggest we retire to one side before one of us is struck down and becomes more powerful than the other could possibly imagine.
To all of you, I shall give you this quote:Teiraa said:
"You are so blind! You so do not understand! You weren't there at the beginning! You don't know how good it was, how important! This is it for you! This jumped-up firework display of a toy advert! People like you make me sick! What's wrong with you?" ~Simon Pegg.
Source [http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0706386/quotes]
Seriously, screw the combat and the visuals, that's not what the movies are about, they're about taking you to new places rich with all kinds of history and culture. They're supposed to capture your imagination even long after you have left the theatre.
The Star Wars movies could've been made on a shoe string budget and they'd still be masterpieces because they were landmarks in sci-fi story telling history that dared to go above and beyond the norm and introduce us to all new possibilities that were never before thought possible, giving science fiction a firm place in cinema as a legitimate genre in its own right by telling an epic story which took science fiction out of the B-movie basement and made it something to be respected instead of mocked.
George Lucas abducted by aliens, ha! That's like saying the Joe Quesada that mandated One More Day was a skrull. Wait, that was Joe Skrullsada? Huh...
