=D this made my daykaveradeo said:Poor courage the cowardly dog!theultimateend said:I'm guessing in a special place called "Nowhere".
Some trouble in the balkans.
=D this made my daykaveradeo said:Poor courage the cowardly dog!theultimateend said:I'm guessing in a special place called "Nowhere".
Some trouble in the balkans.
If by "nobody seems to care" you mean that everyone is using the intrenal conflicts to sell weapons to them, then yeah you're right.karamazovnew said:Africa? Yeah right, they have constant wars there but nobody seems to care.
Again, your perception of "nobody seems to care" is funny. I live in the middle east and I assure you people care, and they care a lot about what Israel does. Maybe even a bit too much.karamazovnew said:Israel? Too well defended. Except if they attack first. Which they have done before and again, nobody seemed to care.
I currently (unfortunately) am stuck in Iran and things do look rather dire. USA has been basically invading every neighbouring country they had an excuse to invade (read: Saddam and Bin Laden) and Iran is not happy about it.karamazovnew said:So that only leaves Iran and it's the "best" option for an all out world war. They've been surrounded on all sides which almost gives them the right to actually own nuclear weapons for defense. The population is very much behind their leaders. Even the opposition would hate a "liberating US army". The Russians have so far supported Iran and an invasion would plunge the US deeper into recession, China would buy everything in America, raise the dollar, crash the US home economy which would then lead to war with China to recover the assets. By this time Russia would jump to the aid of Iran to get their hands on the whole Middle East. This would draw North Korea out, India might take advantage and attack Pakistan. Israel might nuke somebody or get nuked themselves, well... you got the picture.
It won't happen, not because we've learned anything from history, but because the world's political, commercial, technological and ideological landscape has changed to the point where a third world war is simply not possible.Devon Dent said:Well I was more thinking the world just says 'screw this' and everyone picks sides because they can. I never once was thinking of this as a real possibility. I would like to think that we as a collective people have learned what we lose from war is no where what we gain, even on the winning side. The exception being the war on terror which, although not a real 'world war' really affects the world scale.BonsaiK said:The worst that could happen is that the US backs India and then it'd be just like fighting the Taliban again but from the other direction. Not a world war, not even close.Devon Dent said:Well it wouldn't be a world war straight away. But if it went on long enough, and shit got real, other countries could be asked for aid from either side.BonsaiK said:No it wouldn't, for very obvious reasons. Think about the proximity of those two countries and WHY they hate each other.Saucycardog said:But it would have been a nuclear war. =DBonsaiK said:That wouldn't have been a world war, that would have been an India/Pakistan war.Saucycardog said:India and Pakistan almost went to war in 2001/2002. And they still hate each other.BonsaiK said:It won't happen. The political and cultural landscape of the planet has permanently changed in such a way as to make a third world war impossible. The closest thing we'll ever get is the current "war on terror" which really isn't a world war any more than the "war on drugs" is a world war.Saucycardog said:The title says it.
Do you think world war 3 will start in Israel? Germany? North Korea? Australia?
Still not a world war anyway.
Fenix7 said:I think maybe I should point continuing on my previous discussion of country stability that Pakistan is ranked 165th worst nation, of 177 nations, and they have nukes. If you've been reading my posts you'll know I don't like Pakistan with nukes. Not one bit. Libya, which is in the throes of civil war right now is 66th.karamazovnew said:But I don't think that's going to happen anytime soon. I personally think the next country that is going to be struck by war is Pakistan. Many things point at that, the evergoing conflict with India, it's support of Afghanistan and most importantly, it's absolutely strategic geographical position. And Bin Laden wasn't "found" there for no reason, after all.
Pakistan needs to lose the nukes. Or it'll probably be WW3, or called such after the nukes fall.
You're probably right. Everything starts on the Internet these days, so who's to say that the next big war won't start here, too?ChildofGallifrey said:The Internet. Eventually all these hacking attacks will cross a line.
Or if there are any scale conflicts, everyone will just nuke each other anyway and the war will be over in a matter of hours...the war and the world that isOmniscientOstrich said:Seconded, a little thing called mutually assured destruction makes it seem highly unlikely that there will be any global scale conflicts in the near or distant future.theultimateend said:I'm guessing in a special place called "Nowhere".Saucycardog said:The title says it.
Do you think world war 3 will start in Israel? Germany? North Korea? Australia?
Although you make some good points, you may want to change your tone.harmonic said:Well, you missed some week(s) of history, because it's not nearly that simple. You can't blame either WW1 or WW2 on any one particular country, or leader. No, you can't even blame the entirety of WW2 on Hitler. You can blame concepts. Imperialism, nationalism, jingoism, political opportunism to name a few.bahumat42 said:oh so england invaded poland thenPMorgan18 said:Gavrilo Princip started the first World War.Freakout456 said:First two were Germany's fault.....I feel good putting my money on them for a third round.
France and England started the second World War.
i must of missed that week of history.
/sarcasm
Back on topic, folks, please stop using this thread as a place to drop extremely trite political statements. Half the posts can basically be summed up as "Amrica sux lolololl."
The world has changed. WW2-style wars, official wars between major powers, are a thing of the past. No major power has anything to gain, and every one of them as everything to lose from such a war. China and the US will never go to war with each other. They MAY be on opposite sides of proxy wars, border disputes, or economic tensions, but you will never see the US Army marching in Beijing, nor the Chinese Army marching into Washington. Never. Same goes for Moscow, Paris, Madrid, Rome, London, Berlin, etc, etc, and their respective militaries. A nuclear war will wipe out the human race before any such eventuality. The most volatile relationships are between India/Pakistan, Isreal/Iran, and North Korea/South Korea.
However, you will see, in the 21st century, a dramatic rise in civil unrest, rogue state and non-state backed violence, and struggles for dwindling resources. The major powers are all highly interdependent, due to a globalized economy and the Internet. The US exports immense amounts of grain, allowing much of the world to continue to eat. The middle east exports all the oil. South America exports all the copper. South Africa the gold. Russia: old, diamonds, gain. The list goes on and on. The world economy is fragile, and states are unstable, and not getting any more stable. THAT is the true danger of the 21st century, and very few countries are immune to it. Not even Australia. ...Maybe Canada.![]()
first war started with the assassination of Archduke Franz Ferdinand by serbian nationalists, then everyone had to take sides with people they had alliances withFreakout456 said:First two were Germany's fault.....I feel good putting my money on them for a third round.