Jamz said:
Well. I suppose the mass immigration of Turks into Germany after WWII has led to a lot of problems in modern Germany, but I'm not sure exactly to what degree.
I see what you're promoting and I agree with you in many ways, but I'm not sure if this method of execution is actually a reasonable way to go about it. Your first and second points I totally agree with. That being said, I believe that immigrant competition for employment is actually a good thing for the nation as a whole. I believe that healthy businesses need to compete for workers with the ability to get things done. Not every native is entitled to a job, especially when there are those who are willing to do a better job for the same wage. It's the same reason why I'm torn on affirmative action, but that's a separate conversation.
I agree that there's too much unskilled immigration, but I'm not sure how the problem can be remedied in a decent way. On the one hand, I don't really see an effective way to limit this unless there were tighter immigration restrictions put in place to prevent this, but I'm pretty sure that those regulations are pretty tight as is (I may be mistaken though. would like a 2nd opinion).
The language is another thing I'm torn on. On the one hand, it states that there will be no national language in the United States. But I don't speak Spanish and I'm not sure if I like its proliferation. That being said, I don't know if it's "right" for us to limit that. At the very least, I believe that it should not be helped along. But what exactly is "helping it along"? There must be some middle ground, but I don't know what/where that is.
Also, what the shit is up with all the censorship in these forums?
I don't believe that any foreign national has a right to emigrate anywhere, it's a privilege, especially for people who come from 3rd world countries, for them it changes not only their lives but the lives of all future generations of their family.
I believe immigration should be treated more as a privilege and something to be valued and appreciated more than something to be abused. It is after all, a form of charity for unskilled workers, and a great opportunity for the skilled.
I don't demand that all immigrants be a rocket scientist or a doctor, but that they make an effort to adopt the local culture and the local values.
As a good example I'd like to cite Britain.
Nobody has any problem with Indian Hindu and Sikh immigrants, they integrate, they join local communities, they work hard, they contribute massively to the local culture and economy. I'd even go as far as to say I respect and appreciate Indians in Britain, I consider them British. But then Pakistani Muslims are loathed, they're violent, hostile, aggressive, where they live crime rates inflate and the community loses all trust and social cohesion.
The only difference between an Indian Hindu and a Pakistani Muslim is their culture and their willingness to integrate.
To put it frankly, people who show no willingness to integrate, are openly hostile to the local culture, do not embody it's values and contribute nothing should be deported forcibly. They have no reason to be there, no right to be there.
America is a strange example when it comes to language and culture, is there an 'American culture'? I believe so, however the country and it's race and culture, are a patchwork of everything imaginable, from Polish Jews to African slaves. However there is one thing that defines America, and that is American values, the constitution, personal freedom and self-determination, when I visited America I was shocked at how many people, black or white, embodied these values and held them to be right. America is a patchwork of races and cultures and so it must be unified through it's values, they're the paste that fills the cracks between communities.
I believe if, for example, a Mexican immigrant, has no desire to embody these values and holds American culture in contempt, he should not be granted residence.
Illegal immigration surprises me too, that there is a debate at all shocks me, as these 'undocumented immigrants' have already shown a complete disregard for American law and values.
Censorship seems ok here actually, I've seen worse, as you can probably guess I'm used to being censored, lol.
