White People! Are you offended being called a "Cracka"?

[Altorin]

Hell no, nigga. I'm a cracka-ass, white boy and I don't give a shit who calls me that.

Shit, I don't give a shit about 'white devil' either.

Equinsu Ocha!

 

[Cracker3011]

Well, its my username, so most of the time I think people are just calling me by that. It actually took at least a year after picking the name to find out it actually went 'white boy' etc.

I was thinking about Ritz crackers at the time, and its kinda similar to my last name anyhow.

So yeah. I find being called Cracker in racial terms more confusing and embarassing than actually offensive.

 

[Shinclone]

It's primarily used by blacks as a racial slur against whites, it's no different than a white man calling a black man a ******. I personally don't find it offensive but the intended insult is still there. What annoys some folk though is the double standards involved. If for example I was to walk the streets using the term ****** to refer to black folks I would promptly be arrested and charged with any number of ridiculous hate crimes, swap it around however and not a thing would be done.

 

[Amaror]

And even if not I really wouldn't care... I actually don't mind slang terms for races. We call Americans "Yanks" and the English "Poms" and they don't take much offense.

Really? I can't really imagine calling a person, based on the country they come from. Thinking about it, i would probably pretty weirded out, being called a Kraut while being in another country.

 

[Lono Shrugged]

If you called me "sir" in the wrong tone and context I would be offended. It's all about context. Even the word ******, when used in different contexts means or meant different things to certain people. A less flame-war inciting example and one I can relate to is Paddy. Paddy is often used as a racist and exclusionary slang for Irish people in certain parts of the world and carried a lot of the same implications as 'proper' racist terms. Yet Irish people refer to themselves as paddies often and generally we don't mind being referred to as being a Paddy if it's good natured. But if you are in a pub and and English person calls you a "fucking paddy" You best believe there is a racial undertone either meant or felt. The same is true of any ethnicity. ****** is a term that had been co-opted into popular culture and became practically as taboo as a curse word. Same as a man calling a woman a ****. There is a connection that runs deeper than language. Personally, I don't think it's the important part about this case. No one is on trial for racism, it's a murder case and at the end of the day, what the victim's racial views were is utterly irrelevant.

 

[somonels]

No, as I often try to crack wise so I take it as an encouragement. Using the topical word is like a nigga whipping himself.

Kinda related - is using the word ****** prohibited on this forum and that's why people use nigga? Which is still essentially the same.

 

[repeating integers]

No, as I often try to crack wise so I take it as an encouragement. Using the topical word is like a nigga whipping himself.

Kinda related - is using the word ****** prohibited on this forum and that's why people use nigga? Which is still essentially the same.

It's not, at all. "Nigga" and "******" are very different words with different connotations.

 

[PatrickXD]

It's a racial slur, sure. I don't mind the word, but I would be offended if a person who called me a cracka wouldn't let me call them a ******. Or whatever other slur for their particular brand of genes.

I don't get this sort of logic.

a person calls you a slur, one whose root implies that you're a bigot, and your response is to demand the opportunity to prove them right?

seriously dude, think about that long and hard and abandon that logic as soon as possible. it's not a game where you can one up eachother and win. once slurs start flying everyone involved loses. it's a zero-gain system.

If someone calls me a cracker and I call them a ****** and they take offense, that means they meant offense in calling me a cracker. It's the intent of the person in using the word that may or may not offend me.

 

[somonels]

Kinda related - is using the word ****** prohibited on this forum and that's why people use nigga? Which is still essentially the same.

It's not, at all. "Nigga" and "******" are very different words with different connotations.

******'s race and Nigga's status or relation? So people just use them falsely?

 

[repeating integers]

Kinda related - is using the word ****** prohibited on this forum and that's why people use nigga? Which is still essentially the same.

It's not, at all. "Nigga" and "******" are very different words with different connotations.

******'s race and Nigga's status or relation? So people just use them falsely?

Honestly, I don't hear "******" used much by anyone except racists anymore. All I know is that I've heard "nigga" used by blacks to refer to white friends all the damn time. Even white people are often allowed to say it.

 

[Altorin]

It's a racial slur, sure. I don't mind the word, but I would be offended if a person who called me a cracka wouldn't let me call them a ******. Or whatever other slur for their particular brand of genes.

I don't get this sort of logic.

a person calls you a slur, one whose root implies that you're a bigot, and your response is to demand the opportunity to prove them right?

seriously dude, think about that long and hard and abandon that logic as soon as possible. it's not a game where you can one up eachother and win. once slurs start flying everyone involved loses. it's a zero-gain system.

If someone calls me a cracker and I call them a ****** and they take offense, that means they meant offense in calling me a cracker. It's the intent of the person in using the word that may or may not offend me.

whatever helps you sleep man. it still sounds bonkers to me. Someone calls me a cracker, first I want to know where the hate comes from, and then I'll probably disassociate myself with that person because they clearly aren't going to show me any respect. It's not an opportunity to get your jollies using a word that basically means "you're not a human being, you're a filthy monkey and I'm going to beat you until you do what I tell you".

A black person calls me a cracker, he's an asshole, not a ******. it's fairly well established that he is human being and I have no claim over his livelihood no matter how hard I beat him.

 

[Boris Goodenough]

All this reminds me of is Boondocks and their "nigga moments" sketch:
And basicly the white guy just walks away.

 

[rob_simple]

Not at all, but if I'm ever referred to as 'Scotch', I'll cut a cracka up.

I am not an egg.

My own wish would be to see all such words allowed and people able to use them as freely as they like, as through constant use in time they would all lose impact, and the politically correct types only give those words their power by highlighting them so much in the first place.

I agree completely, the sooner we stop demonising words rather than intent, the better the world will be.

 

[Subscriptism]

It's a way of referring to someone by their race and can be used in a derogatory manner. That makes it a racial slur.

It irritates me but doesn't offend me. Then again there aren't a great deal of things that I would be offended by in the same manner or magnitude as a black person called "******".

 

[anthony87]

I don't think I'd be offended, maybe I'd be caught a little off guard at first but then I'd be all

 

[DSK-]

Not in the slightest. I don't really get it myself, because I fail to see the correlation between Jacobs cream crackers and a white person/me.

It'd be more offensive if they called me a washing line. Then again I have tough skin when it comes to taunts and insults so it's all gravy.

 

[Sunrider]

You didn't know that Cracker/cracka was a racial slur? Also my ancestors where enslaved and sold by group's of my own race, slavery then and still now is a business that prevails. As I said before in another thread the Defense might have done a reversal. But yeah it is a racial slur that probably means shit to white people as a whole.

The difference between "******" and "cracker" in my mind is that "******" has actually been used to refer to people who are actually being subjugated and treated in the most vile ways. "Cracker" has no such historical background in blood and torture, or at least not in such a widespread manner, which is why it "probably means shit to white people as a whole."

I believe this is also why sexist/stereotypical images of men[footnote]The bumbling father who doesn't know how to clean house properly, the manchild who refuses to clean a house properly, etc.[/footnote] are still acceptable in media rather than sexist/stereotypical images of women[footnote]The subservient housewife, the woman who doesn't know a hammer from a screwdriver, the woman who can't drive, etc.[/footnote]. One of them has only been used in media to poke fun at a gender. The other represents opinions and notions actually held against the gender in the past, and still to a certain extent in the present. It is considered more offensive to say "Women can't drive" than "Men can't clean a house properly" because there was once a point in time where it was actually felt that women couldn't drive, and in many places laws were put in place to either prohibit or severely handicap women when driving. The idea's still got a bit of a sting to it.

I'm not saying this is right by any means, however I think it is perfectly logical that a term or idea which has no historical significance or potency in its use would be more acceptable. It's not a matter of "double standards" or "reverse racism" or "reverse sexism." It's simply the historical baggage that certain terms and ideas carry.

I agree completely. The key point here, however, is your last section. One being way worse does not excuse the other.
Neither is acceptable.

 

[Hazy]

I don't let anything offend me. I call my friends the n-word and they don't give a shit either.

 

[VanTesla]

Doesn't bother me one bit. I mean why should it bother me when it sounds more like a bad joke to describe someone instead of a word that has a whole history of pure hate in it? Racist words or not people will say hateful things to each other even if such words strike a cord or not. Also just because one may say a racial word to another does not mean one is automatically racist no matter which race they may be. If you are considered a racist for saying hateful words to a person with not the intent of hurting anyone but that persons feelings, then people are way to uptight... I mean everyone I ever knew has said a racial or stereotypical comment on another person be it that they are a different race or not. Also none of the people I know mean what they say or mean it to group all of one race as one and the same, except two people I know do that...

 

[Eggsnham]

Technically it is a racial slur, but it's not offensive to me... or any white person I know of for that matter.