Who is the best fictional swordsman of all time?
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You could probably argue that for Gwen as well. Bare in mind your essentially just fighting his hollow, and compare the strength of other characters to their hollow forms. In his hayday he would have been fearsome. It's interesting that the game is as difficult as it is, and yet your essentially just fighting the weakest, most zombified forms of every enemy. They's probably curb stomp you any other day.ninja666 said:
Although, these characters are essentially deities, so it makes sense that they'd be stronger than any human swordsman.
I already posted a different answer, but I didn't think of Lan. You're right, he's a supreme badass, and that duel was fricken sweet. Although, I will say that the WoT power rankings are a little out of whack, and I'm not sure I trust them. For example,jurnag12 said:
in the last battle, Gawyn takes on Demandred wearing 3 of those Seanchan rings, making him inhumanly fast and impossible to read. Demandred kicks his ass. But Gawyn is a blademaster of such a high level that he can defeat 2 other blademasters at the same time, one of which is clearly described as nearly as good as Lan himself. So how, exactly, is Lan so much better than a man who is actually almost on the same level, AND wearing magic superspeed rings?
On my phone so can't link but Nanashi or Luo-Lang from Sword of The Stranger gets my vote(even if they cheat a bit with the physics)
I'm glad I'm not the only one who wanted to post Raiden. Cyborgs are against the rules, but there's something awesome to be said about a guy who can lop off a giant mech's 50 foot blade arm, pick it up and cut the mech into clean slices with the seeming effort of picking up a heavy sack of potatoes.Demonio Penguino said:
But hell with it, I'll vote for Professor Layton.
let us agree theyre both the best cause they contradict themselves way too often in the animeRJ 17 said:I own the DVD's as well, so you don't trump me in that regards.ecoho said:
The Amakakeru Ryu no Hirameki is a sword-draw technique...it always has been and always will be. Go watch the episode when Kenshin uses it against Shishio and the technique's second - and far more destructive - strike is revealed. "Even if you avoid the fangs of the flying dragon, the winds that gust around it will immobilize you and cut you to shreds." Even more specifically, it cuts to Hiko at one point after the attack as he further explains: "The Amakakeru Ryu no Hirameki is a battojutsu at super god-like speeds, and all battojutsu of the Hiten Mitsurugi style have two parts to prevent any surprises."
The entire point of the technique's second strike is what makes it a truly unavoidable technique. If you don't see it coming, you'll have no chance against it. If you know about it - as Shishio did - you can try to prevent it. It's too fast to dodge, so you have to try to block. By blocking you create the vacuum and vortex effect that allows the user to spin around and strike with obscene amounts of force.
You cannot be taught the Amakakeru Ryu no Hiromeki by having it used on you (which is how Hiko taught Kenshin all of the other techniques), your will to live must guide your actions and you discover it's form for yourself. "Think about the nature of the Kuzu Ryu Sen, and the form for the Amakakeru Ryu no Hirameki should become apparent." The Kuzu Ryu Sen lands 9 strikes in a single instant, yet it's a standard charge-attack. Battojutsu - sword draw techniques - strike faster than regular charging strikes (at least in the world of Kenshin...I don't know if that's true in real life). Since the Kuzu Ryu Sen is too fast to dodge or block all nine strikes, the only chance to beat it is to strike before it lands. This is true for every apprentice of the Hiten Mitsurugi style that wants to learn the final technique.
To clarify what Hiko was meaning when he says "The Kuzu Ryu Sen is the attack I'm best at", what he's saying is that no one else's Kusu Ryu Sen could possibly surpass his because - as he explains - he has the weight necessary for a charging attack and the upper body strength necessary for a multi-strike attack. His Kuzu Ryu Sen is perfect, but as he says: "I never said that the Kuzu Ryu Sen was the ultimate technique, you just assumed it was."
Edit: Beyond all that there's the fact that in the anime story arc involving the Christians, Kenshin is up against another person who has mastered the Hiten Mitsurugi style. During their final clash, they both use the Amakakeru Ryu no Hirameki and they both use a sword-draw technique. Kenshin, however, has a completely pure heart and spirit while his opponent did not, thus Kenshin's proves superior.
I think that the Fate/stay Night Assassin has to be up there. Dude was hella badass, and could move so fast tha he could attack from three different angles at the same time.
I dunno if this counts, but honestly, I think top swordsman would have to be the Monster Hunter, from, well, Monster hunter. dude can take down monsters so big that he's only as tall as their toenails, think how badly he could fuck up a human.
I dunno if this counts, but honestly, I think top swordsman would have to be the Monster Hunter, from, well, Monster hunter. dude can take down monsters so big that he's only as tall as their toenails, think how badly he could fuck up a human.
This is kind of a tough one because of the rules. Dante is my personal favorite for this but is discarded for being half demon, in the sense he didn't use any sort of demonic power though he still has mastered a multitude of different weapons seconds after picking them up. Sadly though he is against the rules.
In terms of mastery and style I would have to say samurai jack is the best is we measure power by feats accomplished. I mean he scares the shit out of a giant evil god for goodness sake.
Guts is probably the one I would have to put my money on in this exact scenario though. Not only is he just a regular dude but he defeats monsters, legions of men, demons, and challenges a multitude of evil demi gods, on top of that he use a whopping nothing magical until he gets the berserker armor. This guy is just so inhumanely fast and strong that he kicks that much ass.
In terms of mastery and style I would have to say samurai jack is the best is we measure power by feats accomplished. I mean he scares the shit out of a giant evil god for goodness sake.
Guts is probably the one I would have to put my money on in this exact scenario though. Not only is he just a regular dude but he defeats monsters, legions of men, demons, and challenges a multitude of evil demi gods, on top of that he use a whopping nothing magical until he gets the berserker armor. This guy is just so inhumanely fast and strong that he kicks that much ass.
The Bride from Kill Bill? Took down 'The Crazy 88' single-handedly...but that's a pretty stylised movie.
Gotta agree with you there. Although a honorable mention should be made for Whiskeyjack, who apparently was so good that it took Dassem Ultor to get past his guard.Raesvelg said:
When you narrow it down to "human level" characters, I would have to say Drizzt Do'Urden, though I'm not sure if he counts as super human.
D&Dwise, Drizzt's Drow stats aren't beyond what a human can achieve, and while he IS magical, he doesn't really use it in a fight in any capacity beyond what a human with nightvision goggles would have...
Drizzt goes into his "Battousai" mode called "The Hunter" and hunts down and murders the shit out of the Thousand Orc Army.
He's like 2 Kenshins rolled into one, dismantling his enemies with his twin scimitars, Icingdeath and Twinkle, a whirling storm of blood an death.
D&Dwise, Drizzt's Drow stats aren't beyond what a human can achieve, and while he IS magical, he doesn't really use it in a fight in any capacity beyond what a human with nightvision goggles would have...
Drizzt goes into his "Battousai" mode called "The Hunter" and hunts down and murders the shit out of the Thousand Orc Army.
He's like 2 Kenshins rolled into one, dismantling his enemies with his twin scimitars, Icingdeath and Twinkle, a whirling storm of blood an death.
I'm not super familiar with the character (indeed, I only learned about him from one of the random superpower threads), but what about the Marvel character: The Taskmaster?
He super-serumed himself in such a way that gives him the ability to instantly memorise and replicate any martial activity from projectile weapons, swordplay, close quarters combat and so on. By virtue of this he could surely match anyone in the thread if they aren't backed by magic/superpowers
He super-serumed himself in such a way that gives him the ability to instantly memorise and replicate any martial activity from projectile weapons, swordplay, close quarters combat and so on. By virtue of this he could surely match anyone in the thread if they aren't backed by magic/superpowers