Yes, I love Hanako from Katawa Shoujo, high five indeed. I played her route the first, and the whole rest of the novel felt rather lacking comparing to it. And now Katawa Shoujo's getting an awesome fan dub, and Hanako has probably the greatest voice in it. I mean, check it out: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PPH0O6FDEbACaramel Frappe said:
Who is Your Waifu?
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Hanako is best girl!Caramel Frappe said:<spoiler=My #1 Choice>
Hanako from Katawa Shoujo. The game could of easily just made her a character full of tragedy, highly unstable and shown to be a character with very dark themes. But, instead... the game handled her very well. She's actually normal in a sense, with a lot of interesting aspects to her. Yeah, she can be super shy- but when she's used to you... she's really a person who doesn't allow her scars to tie her down.
Hanako is actually competitive when you're playing against her. She also loves to read and tries her best to improve oneself. The reason why I love Hanako is because she never plays the victim card. Not once... and wants the best for Lilly and Hiaso (despite he doesn't deserve crap... but whatever.) I love the way Hanako is kind, is modest, and though she has obvious faults of holding things in... she is very understanding. Best part about Hanako is the very fact that she doesn't WANT anyone's help forced on her, or to be pitied. She wants to be herself and accepted, but also given the chance to be something more rather then taken cared of. Hanako would be my waifu, though I much rather prefer her being in my life regardless of relationshions. She's just to darn awesome.
OT: Hanako Ikezawa would be my first pick, second pick however...
Either Yoko from Gurren Lagann or Elizabeth from Bioshock: Infinite. Both are great characters that I just love through and through.
I will never ever EVER use the term "waifu." EVER! That being said, I have had several crushes on fictional characters inc. Lina from Slayers (don't ask) and Videl from DBZ. Note, I said "had" as in past tense.
EDIT: Oh yeah, and Chihiro from Persona 3 too.
EDIT: Oh yeah, and Chihiro from Persona 3 too.
A Katawa Shoujo fandub? Huh, that's... interesting. I'm actually a bit skeptical because the voices won't match how I imagine them in my head. I think I'll just stick to the vanilla version for when I replay it.MSfire012 said:
I don't really get this whole thing... I watch anime(though less than I used to), read manga, and recently started playing visual novels, but I don't really find myself attracted to the characters themselves so much as the interactions between characters.
With that said, I would so far have to say that my favorite 2 characters would have to be Makise Kurisu from Steins;Gate and Matsushima Michiru from Grisaia no Kajitsu. The first plays a sort of tsundere straight "man" to the overly goofy main character, and the second is more of a wannabe tsundere that instead just comes off as an idiot, which pretty much makes every scene she's in hilarious(especially since the main in that VN is a sarcastic ass).
Here are some pics(though in these characters' case, it's pretty much all about the chemistry with the main character):
With that said, I would so far have to say that my favorite 2 characters would have to be Makise Kurisu from Steins;Gate and Matsushima Michiru from Grisaia no Kajitsu. The first plays a sort of tsundere straight "man" to the overly goofy main character, and the second is more of a wannabe tsundere that instead just comes off as an idiot, which pretty much makes every scene she's in hilarious(especially since the main in that VN is a sarcastic ass).
Here are some pics(though in these characters' case, it's pretty much all about the chemistry with the main character):
While I do find the Waifu thing/otaku culture really odd at times, trying to link the Japanese population thing/the current miasma surrounding the country to be mistaking the symptoms for the illness.Pr0 said:
From what I've seen Japan is an extremely conservative country, rooted in the kind of Confucian ideology that is popular throughout Asia. There is an insane pressure on the younger generation to succeed their parents and work 70 hours a week in their dead-end corporate job. No wonder that in such a culture where people go from 10 hours of school a day to 10 hours of work a day dating and romance might be lost for many Japanese kids. Is it also surprising that people who want to be different from the rest of the group find their sole escape in a sub-culture that is unique to them? While it is not a healthy thing I do understand them.
As for the good folks at the escapist, well, we are probably the 1 percent of the 1 percent of people who hang out on the internet. I don't think this kind of light hearted forum posts is going to be the norm in 20 years.
OT:
...Sure, why not? A few characters I've had crushes on, in a "I know they're not real, but I would probably be in love with them if they were." kind of crush.
Shampoo from Ranma1/2. Bubbly and fun-loving. Extremely affectionate towards her "Airen." Very skilled martial artist. From a tribe of amazons. Doesn't use doors, prefers to knock walls down.
Naoto Shirogane. Cross-dressing detective of Persona 4. She dresses like a boy because of the bias against girls in a male dominated workforce. She's also incredibly intelligent and is the only outsider to the whole Persona thing to figure out that the main character's are at the center of the whole thing. At least until she joins the party.
Centorea Shianus. A centaur knight who takes honor, tradition, and battle very seriously. Is extremely strong-willed, yet incredibly weak to any kind of affection, becoming easily flustered and embarrassed from just holding hands.
Hanako Ikezawa from Katawa Shoujo. Incredibly shy, intelligent, and one of the most adorable yet also sad video game characters ever. Her house burned down when she was little, and she only survived because her mother covered her to protect her. She listened as her mom burned to death, and still received incredibly horrific burns on the right side of her body. What really pushed her into being as introverted as she is, is because of the bullying she received because of this. What really makes me love this character, is that if you try to protect her like she's some fragile little doll, she'll freak the hell out and you'll get her bad ending.
Shampoo from Ranma1/2. Bubbly and fun-loving. Extremely affectionate towards her "Airen." Very skilled martial artist. From a tribe of amazons. Doesn't use doors, prefers to knock walls down.
Naoto Shirogane. Cross-dressing detective of Persona 4. She dresses like a boy because of the bias against girls in a male dominated workforce. She's also incredibly intelligent and is the only outsider to the whole Persona thing to figure out that the main character's are at the center of the whole thing. At least until she joins the party.
Centorea Shianus. A centaur knight who takes honor, tradition, and battle very seriously. Is extremely strong-willed, yet incredibly weak to any kind of affection, becoming easily flustered and embarrassed from just holding hands.
Hanako Ikezawa from Katawa Shoujo. Incredibly shy, intelligent, and one of the most adorable yet also sad video game characters ever. Her house burned down when she was little, and she only survived because her mother covered her to protect her. She listened as her mom burned to death, and still received incredibly horrific burns on the right side of her body. What really pushed her into being as introverted as she is, is because of the bullying she received because of this. What really makes me love this character, is that if you try to protect her like she's some fragile little doll, she'll freak the hell out and you'll get her bad ending.
I love Final Fantasy. Love, love, love, love, love Final Fantasy. Love it. Love every silly, melodramatic, convoluted moment of every silly, melodramatic, convoluted game(except for the ones I haven't played yet, but I'm getting to it!) I've fallen for many of its characters, but in Final Fantasy X-2's astoundingly lovable Yuna, I found a person to whom I could relate, a person I could admire, and a person with whom I would probably be even more obsessed than I already am if she actually existed. Yuna's incredibly personal, secular character arc touches my heart every time I witness it. Through countless playthroughs, I still feel my eyes well up every time she finally gets not what she needs, but what she wants.
Not to mention her lovely eyes, sunny smile, and fluffy hair. I always picture it as being a bit coarse to the touch.
You're waifu is shit. What you gunna do
I'll be serious now
If it wasn't my duty to die for the flame, I'd gladly stay by the bonfire.
The standard of what moe is to be measured to
She's a goof, but still charming
Hugging, handholding, and other lewdness.
Now, if you excuse me, this thread made me remember that I need to download Katawa Shoujo again, and stop pushing myself when I go jogging and actually meet the other girls. I'm looking for Lily this time.
I'll be serious now
If it wasn't my duty to die for the flame, I'd gladly stay by the bonfire.
The standard of what moe is to be measured to
She's a goof, but still charming
Hugging, handholding, and other lewdness.
That post would have been nice if you didn't demonstrate a gross misunderstanding of the Japanese population drop and the social, economic, and environmental pressures that brought it about, not to mention completely lacking in any actual discussion of why those factors are actually relevent outside of an insular nation with a very unique cultural dynamic on the world stage, also failing to actually elucidate on the problems in favor of just stating that it is a problem.Pr0 said:
Even in Japan, the "Waifu" thing is a gross minority and only gets brought up by Japanese media for shock value. News outlets talk about it the same way news pundits in the U.S. talk about saying "Happy Holidays' being a widesperead pervasive attack on Christianity. The Prevalence of attraction to fictional characters is a drop in the bucket compared to the actual factors that are causing the drop in births in Japan, things like: massive living costs making it too expensive to raise a family outside of the upper middle class and the rich, a decades long economic slump, the almost complete overuse of land and resources in a small geographic area, an immigration policy that restricts movement and addition of new citizens, a government that has shown little interest in actually increasing population growth by a significant margin, and an extremely insular culture that makes it very difficult to relocate within its own territory. All of these are the actual factors causing Japan's aging population, not people joking about liking fictional characters, nobody outside of sensationalist media centers has even tried to make that connection.
This also ignores the fact that Japan kind of has an unsustainable population as it is, so there is no telling what factors will equalize birth rates as the population drops to a more sustainable level. Pretending to have a heavy conversation about a topic by grossly sensationalizing its effects right out of the gate serves no purpose but to shoot any point you may have had in the foot.
There is a legitimate discussion to be had about how to help people who have become dependent on escapism and refusing to confront reality. Trying to conflate that discussion as if it is some great societal ill will accomplish nothing more than causing the people on this forum to ignore you as a sensationalist who is more interested in starting a flame war, than having an actual discussion.
I recall having a cartoon crush on Mindy when I was eight, but beyond that I don't really have a "waifu" since I don't find animated women that attractive. There's a fakeness to animated things that turns me off too much. Sure a picture might be cute, but I can comprehend long lasting feeling for what is a character made up by someone. The illusion just isn't there for me. I prefer a level of imperfection in my sense of attraction/cute. Animated women rarely ever provide that. However, females in reality have provided this imperfect cuteness factor in leaps and bounds.
Not to mention I find the idea of buying a wife worrying in implication. The issue with a animated character for me is that you make the character do what you want if interacting with you [chances are in any game where you can ingame romance your waifu, they'll look it up how to make that happen], and it comes off as little better that prostitution to me as a result.
So yes, I see a waifu not that different from a sex slave. But I don't take much offense to the practice, since they're fictional characters and if the internet's taught me a thing, it's that you can do whatever the hell you want with a imaginary character as long as you don't publish it...
Unless it is a waifu of your making or some exception to the rule of course.
Not to mention I find the idea of buying a wife worrying in implication. The issue with a animated character for me is that you make the character do what you want if interacting with you [chances are in any game where you can ingame romance your waifu, they'll look it up how to make that happen], and it comes off as little better that prostitution to me as a result.
So yes, I see a waifu not that different from a sex slave. But I don't take much offense to the practice, since they're fictional characters and if the internet's taught me a thing, it's that you can do whatever the hell you want with a imaginary character as long as you don't publish it...
Unless it is a waifu of your making or some exception to the rule of course.
1: Samantha Traynor from Mass Effect 3 -- This lady is HILARIOUS and inadvertently helped me cope with the biggest crisis in my entire life, so yeah she cool with me.
2: Lilly from Katawa Shoujo -- This entire game fucked me up in so many ways, but Lilly's story fucked me up the most. Idk why, but if I had to guess it'd probably be something about how similar she is to me, both in appearance and experience.
3: Kumoda from Embric of Wulfhammer's Castle -- Who would have thought a giant spider-lady who literally eats you at the end could be so endearing.
And probably many more! I don't really find any of these things sexual, mind you, which I suppose defeats the point, but considering I don't find much sexual meaning in the real world anyway, that's hardly a surprise. Long story short though, were any of those ladies to become real, and wanted to do literally anything with me, I would. Chess, going for tea, sucking out my liquified insides, typical lady stuff, whatever it is, I would go for it.
2: Lilly from Katawa Shoujo -- This entire game fucked me up in so many ways, but Lilly's story fucked me up the most. Idk why, but if I had to guess it'd probably be something about how similar she is to me, both in appearance and experience.
3: Kumoda from Embric of Wulfhammer's Castle -- Who would have thought a giant spider-lady who literally eats you at the end could be so endearing.
And probably many more! I don't really find any of these things sexual, mind you, which I suppose defeats the point, but considering I don't find much sexual meaning in the real world anyway, that's hardly a surprise. Long story short though, were any of those ladies to become real, and wanted to do literally anything with me, I would. Chess, going for tea, sucking out my liquified insides, typical lady stuff, whatever it is, I would go for it.
Nel from Bleach. Death by boobs.
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Yeah, that is something we have to talk about, this whole synthetic relationship is causing men to detract from society in Japan and it may happen in America once we reach a certain point. At some point though, we have to realize that a good part of us are detached from that crisis and that we are simply having fun. If you want to talk about this, just make another forum so that we have a dedicated space.Pr0 said:
and since I talked on this forum, I might as well talk about my "waifu" for the sake of being on topic
Yeah, it's a bit superficial (seriously, that chest) but I do find her lively, tough, and somewhat fun to be around.
There is also Nikushoku(carnivorous women) and Shoshoku (herbivorous men) paradigm in Japan: women are becoming more aggressive counter to older traditions which makes the more mild men a bit more uncomfortable (they supposedly are looking for a Yamato Nadeshiko type which is more mild and motherly than the "carnivorous women"). In addition, the rise of Otaku and Hikkikomori, at least in my biased opinion, was started because of autistics who live in Japan and can't handle the ijime (bullying based on need to conform to society) and retreated. Oddly, autistics are likely to have stronger attachments to anime and characters than normal so while a normal person would like a character, an autistic may actually form emotional attachments.doodger said:While I do find the Waifu thing/otaku culture really odd at times, trying to link the Japanese population thing/the current miasma surrounding the country to be mistaking the symptoms for the illness.Pr0 said:
From what I've seen Japan is an extremely conservative country, rooted in the kind of Confucian ideology that is popular throughout Asia. There is an insane pressure on the younger generation to succeed their parents and work 70 hours a week in their dead-end corporate job. No wonder that in such a culture where people go from 10 hours of school a day to 10 hours of work a day dating and romance might be lost for many Japanese kids. Is it also surprising that people who want to be different from the rest of the group find their sole escape in a sub-culture that is unique to them? While it is not a healthy thing I do understand them.
As for the good folks at the escapist, well, we are probably the 1 percent of the 1 percent of people who hang out on the internet. I don't think this kind of light hearted forum posts is going to be the norm in 20 years.
OT:I am surprisingly fond of Fujiwara no Mokou from the Touhou series. Part of it is [URL="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ETTk83qis0w" ]her incredible boss theme song[/URL], and part of it is her interesting backstory. An immortal condemned to loneliness, she spends her time by herself in a remote forest, hesitant to get closer to people she know will eventually leave her life. She alternates spending her time running a chicken selling stand or killing and getting killed by her(also immortal) rival.
Note: I myself have Asperger's syndrome and have read literature so I know that autistics have a lack of social and emotional intelligence and can have extreme passions/attachments for things most people won't have. BUT, I must amend my statement with the fact that some autistics may be able to be able to not have the type of extreme attachment I stated and that what I said is a more general statement.
All and All, the situation in Japan is complicated and I have a feeling not a lot of us have a good cultural background (if there are people with a degree in culture studies or have in-depth knowledge about Japanese culture, let me know). At this point, it's only outsiders looking in without full compensation.
It could be argued that the whole "waifu" thing is a tangent to withdrawal from society and normal relations due to the nikoshoku and shoshoku paradigm present in Japan. Women are become more aggressive and men more passive and while this is a good move against gender paradigms, it also conflicts with Japanese ideals of Yamato Nadeshiko and possibly the "amae" paradigm (it's a long complicated paradigm but it's modeled after mother/child relationships so there may be connections). I also made a case about how the waifu phenomena can be made due to autism and societal pressures.EternallyBored said:
Note: As usual, if you think I am completely unqualified to talk or am way off, please comment back and correct. My only experience is a semester of Japanese culture class in Collage, two visits to Japan, parents with similar cultural background (Taiwanese but have observed Japanese society) and my own overthinking of anime and general trends
...Is liking female Shepherd masturbation, due to the fact that Shepherd is merely a mold for players, and has no real personality (except from their exceptional driving skills)?
Narcissism?
Is masturbating incest, as no one's closer related to you than yourself?
I'm so lost...
Also, how could I forget, damnit? She's the personification of kindness, love, and serenity, the ultimate Waifu of Waifu (which is term sounds like an Engrish kanaisation of wife... ok), ladies and gentlemen, it's...
Carol-tan ga kawai da, pyon!
Narcissism?
Is masturbating incest, as no one's closer related to you than yourself?
I'm so lost...
Also, how could I forget, damnit? She's the personification of kindness, love, and serenity, the ultimate Waifu of Waifu (which is term sounds like an Engrish kanaisation of wife... ok), ladies and gentlemen, it's...
Carol-tan ga kawai da, pyon!
Erza from FairyTail. Don't ask, I don't even know. It started with me simply enjoying her aesthetics and defiance of more traditional female character stereotypes, and ended with me thinking a lot about her, and being completely pissed off at the way female stereotypes get re-applied to her later in the anime(apparently "character development" now means going from non-revealing metal armour to wearing little more than a piece of cloth around your chest). So yeah, "my waifu" is now a heavily re-invented and re-designed Erza, because getting ideas for an "ideal partner" from outside is nice, but having to go along with whatever changes that author applies to the character is annoying. Hell, even a real partner you can influence and shape someway.
I've been playing Fire Emblem Awakening lately, and so far I have to say Tharja:
I don't know, there's something about a stalker dark mage kind of cute. Creepy yes, but cute.
[small]She also has a nice body. >-> [/small]
I don't know, there's something about a stalker dark mage kind of cute. Creepy yes, but cute.
[small]She also has a nice body. >-> [/small]
Welp I broke up with my previous waifu Chie a while back. I recently got around to watching Durarara and I completely got attached to....
Celty Sturluson. Doesn't need a head to be cute
Celty Sturluson. Doesn't need a head to be cute