I'm curious as to why everyone is complaining about Skyrim's glitches? There not that bad, and this is a Bethesda game... I'm surprised it was playable at launch. It's a fantastic game, and I don't know why so many people are taking the piss out of it because of a few bugs here and there, and in a game as massive as this, it would be unusual if there weren't a few coding hicups here and there.
Why all the complaints about Skyrim?
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You must not play on the PS3. I expected the game to work on a fundamental level. Instead, I got this:
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-vs-ps3-skyrim-lag
Edit: I also don't understand why fans are blindly defending the game and Bethesda.
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-vs-ps3-skyrim-lag
Edit: I also don't understand why fans are blindly defending the game and Bethesda.
RedEyesBlackGamer: Quite the opposite. I am playing on a PS3. I have gotten the lag, but I've found it much better since the first patch, (I can't speak for the newest one. Haven't had time to play the game in weeks.) A lot of complaints seem to be coming from PC, or XBox Skyrimers (that sounds so wrong...) though.
Well, some people have had worse experiences than others in this regard. While I've only stumbled across the occasional texture and clipping issue and only crashed once, others have experienced crashes galore, broken quests, backwards flying dragons, absurd amounts of lag, etc. As much as I enjoy Skyrim, I can't blame someone for feeling short changed if the game isn't even working properly for them. It doesn't help that recent patches (you know, the updates that were supposed to fix the game) have introduced a slew of new problems as well. While I opted out of the update, others don't have that option due to Steam updating automatically for the PC version.
So people shouldn't complain about glitches? Especially if they're as bad as the one for the PS3?Virmire said:
Ive found that the reason is, people are stubborn most of the time.
A person can own a PS3, a decent gaming PC, and an Xbox, but will still get it on the PS3, or PC most of the time. They know theyre going to get the blunt of the glitches, and still get it for those systems anyway.
Im not trying to come off as mean, or call people "stupid". ((Even though many people can be.))
Im just trying to say, if you know its a Bethesda game, and all past Bethesda games have been buggy for PC or PS3, why get it if your going to complain about it? If you KNOW your going to get bugs, and you buy it anyway, you really shouldnt be complaining about it.
I have all 3 systems. I dont care if it would look better on my PS3, or i could mod it on the PC. I want my game bug free above all else. So i get it for the 360. Ive yet to encounter a bug that i would consider "bad" in anyway. The worst has been a corpse falling through the ground. Sure, i would have liked to l00t it xD but oh well. Im not going to complain about it, because i knew its something that can happen when i play a Bethesda game.
tl;dr:
You sleep with a vampire, dont be surprised if you wake up as one. Knowing your getting a buggy product, and then complaining about it doesnt get anyone anywhere. Saying, "It should have been released later" doesnt help either. They cant find every bug stretched across the entire world, nor every conflict with every PC setup under the golden sun.
Again, im sorry if this comes off as mean or something, as it was not my intention. But alot of the time, when people want to complain about something, they had measures to prevent it in the first place.
A person can own a PS3, a decent gaming PC, and an Xbox, but will still get it on the PS3, or PC most of the time. They know theyre going to get the blunt of the glitches, and still get it for those systems anyway.
Im not trying to come off as mean, or call people "stupid". ((Even though many people can be.))
Im just trying to say, if you know its a Bethesda game, and all past Bethesda games have been buggy for PC or PS3, why get it if your going to complain about it? If you KNOW your going to get bugs, and you buy it anyway, you really shouldnt be complaining about it.
I have all 3 systems. I dont care if it would look better on my PS3, or i could mod it on the PC. I want my game bug free above all else. So i get it for the 360. Ive yet to encounter a bug that i would consider "bad" in anyway. The worst has been a corpse falling through the ground. Sure, i would have liked to l00t it xD but oh well. Im not going to complain about it, because i knew its something that can happen when i play a Bethesda game.
tl;dr:
You sleep with a vampire, dont be surprised if you wake up as one. Knowing your getting a buggy product, and then complaining about it doesnt get anyone anywhere. Saying, "It should have been released later" doesnt help either. They cant find every bug stretched across the entire world, nor every conflict with every PC setup under the golden sun.
Again, im sorry if this comes off as mean or something, as it was not my intention. But alot of the time, when people want to complain about something, they had measures to prevent it in the first place.
Actually the PC crowd have a huge valid complaint:Virmire said:
http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Skyrim
atchBethesda released a secret patch that auto downloaded through Steam disabling players ability to use more than 2 GB of RAM. I have been told that people were getting better performance, so Bethesda just chose to be dicks and took that away.
The truth is if you like the game then it doesn't matter what other people think. Just play and enjoy...
Because Skyrim is popular and people post 10 threads a day about it. Naturally people feel it necessary to whine incessantly about it
What did removing classes change about the gameplay? Everyone when they played Morrowind/Oblivion always made custom classes that usually had the skills they used the most. Here they just removed the handicap of having to select one at the start and not knowing what character you might be more geared toward playing. They removed classes because creating a class in an Elder Scrolls game was usually a matter of trial and error, and most players wouldn't notice at the start that they raise their athletics skill ten times more then their alchemy.kokirisoldier said:
Because this is the internet, and everyone has to complain about something. Like you for example, felt compelled to complain about people who complain about Skyrim.
Complaining is just how things work. Besides, negative topics tend to get more hits than positive topics. Neutral topics get pretty much no hits. Not sure why...
Personally, I do not believe any game with so many bugs could be considered GOTY material (let alone win form multiple sites and get a special GOTY edition), but the majority of gamers disagree with me. I'm personally just waiting for the GOTY edition of Skyrim because I know it is inevitable. I can wait like what, 8 months? Game isn't going anywhere.
Complaining is just how things work. Besides, negative topics tend to get more hits than positive topics. Neutral topics get pretty much no hits. Not sure why...
Personally, I do not believe any game with so many bugs could be considered GOTY material (let alone win form multiple sites and get a special GOTY edition), but the majority of gamers disagree with me. I'm personally just waiting for the GOTY edition of Skyrim because I know it is inevitable. I can wait like what, 8 months? Game isn't going anywhere.
It's funny to me that so many Skyrim fans are quick to defend some of the more egregious bugs by saying, "Well, it is a Bethesda game."
Being made by them makes it okay to have such issues in the engine? Sorry, but that makes no sense to me. I'd wager if similar bugs showed up in another game by a different company many of you would be complaining to no end. Calling the game crappy and the developer lazy or unskilled. In fact, I don't need to. I see it all the time.
Just saying.
Being made by them makes it okay to have such issues in the engine? Sorry, but that makes no sense to me. I'd wager if similar bugs showed up in another game by a different company many of you would be complaining to no end. Calling the game crappy and the developer lazy or unskilled. In fact, I don't need to. I see it all the time.
Because it only adds the the rather humorous, ironic hypocrisy when some of them turn around and start chastising Half-Life fans, Halo fans, etc on how they can possibly like such "poorly made games" and defend the people who made them.RedEyesBlackGamer said:
Also this. When it becomes a chore to go to any part of this (and many other) forum(s) without seeing several threads about Skyrim or a post that alludes to it, no matter the section or topic, some people get annoyed and want to vent some of that annoyance.Robert632 said:
Just saying.
Or maybe they have genuine complaints? Crazy, I know. And call me the same, but it seems many of these bugs being complained about aren't isolated occurrences.Peteron said:
Pardon my hostility, but this pushed all my buttons.
Why all the complaints? Because this is how shit gets fixed. By bitching and whining and letting people know where the game succeeds and fails. Skyrim is more playable at launch than Oblivion; pray tell, how did it get that way?
I'm sick of seeing these "Welp, I don't get any glitches so I ain't care/I must be one of the lucky ones." posts. Good for you, great for you, but that doesn't mean the problem isn't there for a lot of other people. And they most definitely count. Or they should, if Bethesda is half the developer the fanboys think they are.
The Skyrim honeymoon is ending, and people are noticing the termites and mold that they ignored while they were making hot love to it are gnawing at the wood paneling and making the place smell. And I say bring it all on. For every arrow-in-the-knee joke and tired Skyrim thread, I want five more bitching about glitches and bugs.
People are calling these game-busting errors a Bethesda "tradition?" For heaven's sake. Nothing makes my blood boil more than this. Here, have some "traditions:" Saving the princess from Bowser. Obtaining the Master Sword. Meeting a Cid, Moogles, Cactuars, Tonberries and Chocobos. Fighting the Elite Four.
I give to Bethesda that backwards dragons and flying horses are funny. But quest-breaking glitches, poor save file optimization, file-corrupting errors and lying about the engine you're using is no time-honored and revered tradition. Or at least, it isn't in a good world. But I forgot, with every day that passes I feel my reality is not all that different from Deus Ex.
Not fixing five year old problems is pure neglect.
Why all the complaints? Because this is how shit gets fixed. By bitching and whining and letting people know where the game succeeds and fails. Skyrim is more playable at launch than Oblivion; pray tell, how did it get that way?
I'm sick of seeing these "Welp, I don't get any glitches so I ain't care/I must be one of the lucky ones." posts. Good for you, great for you, but that doesn't mean the problem isn't there for a lot of other people. And they most definitely count. Or they should, if Bethesda is half the developer the fanboys think they are.
The Skyrim honeymoon is ending, and people are noticing the termites and mold that they ignored while they were making hot love to it are gnawing at the wood paneling and making the place smell. And I say bring it all on. For every arrow-in-the-knee joke and tired Skyrim thread, I want five more bitching about glitches and bugs.
People are calling these game-busting errors a Bethesda "tradition?" For heaven's sake. Nothing makes my blood boil more than this. Here, have some "traditions:" Saving the princess from Bowser. Obtaining the Master Sword. Meeting a Cid, Moogles, Cactuars, Tonberries and Chocobos. Fighting the Elite Four.
I give to Bethesda that backwards dragons and flying horses are funny. But quest-breaking glitches, poor save file optimization, file-corrupting errors and lying about the engine you're using is no time-honored and revered tradition. Or at least, it isn't in a good world. But I forgot, with every day that passes I feel my reality is not all that different from Deus Ex.
Not fixing five year old problems is pure neglect.
I've emptied dungeons that I immediately had to return to for quest-related reasons twice. Nothing broke either time though - the quest baddies just spawned after I ate the previous residents.Riccan said:
I'm sure many would be pissed about that, but I haven't heard of it happen before :/