Why all the complaints about Skyrim?

[Doom-Slayer]

Actually the PC crowd have a huge valid complaint:
http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Skyrimatch
Bethesda released a secret patch that auto downloaded through Steam disabling players ability to use more than 2 GB of RAM. I have been told that people were getting better performance, so Bethesda just chose to be dicks and took that away.

Actually the patch was there as DRM to stop people playing the game without steam or getting exe cracks. Coincidently...you cant use more than 2GB of RAM. Misinformation isnt cool.

OT: Mostly because people like to complain. Yes some of the time its justified but 90% of the time I see people saying "This game is terrible because of 1 very specific unlikely bug" or "this game should of been delayed ebcause of these graphical errors that arent the games fault". People get upset when they find even the tiniest problems and feel the need to complain, so they do.

 

[aaronobst]

I don't understand why fans are blindly defending the game and Bethesda.

The treatment us PS3 users have been getting from Bethesda is nothing short of fucking insulting... Skyrim was to be my GOTY, in fact it was supposed to last me well into next year I don't care how good the game is, right now IT'S USELESS TO ME! I'm at 11MB and 76 hrs and I can't play 5 - 10 minutes without a freeze, I've never seen anything like it...

Please have a closer look at the bethesda forums and tell me this isn't a problem. They just won GOTY and Studio of the year after releasing this shit... Fucking sad

 

[Belaam]

"It's a Bethesda game, so it's bugged."

Then don't buy Bethesda games.

If the bugs were so bad that no one bought it, or didn't buy it for 6 months, you might see some action. But the fact is that for the majority of players, it works great and was well worth it.

Bit clearly, as a whole, people don't find the bugs enough to keep them from buying the game.

I will never again buy a Ford vehicle. The one I did buy new was extremely buggy. The dome light in the cab came on any time I took it over about 9,000 feet altitude. As I do a lot of camping and skiing, this was a major problem. While it was under warranty, they would fix it each time, but refused to listen to my bug report about it being tied to altitude even after the sixth time the problem occurred. A clearly replicatable bug. Shortly before the warranty expired, I sold it and will never buy another Ford.

Conversely, Bethesda? Never given me a problem so bad I wouldn't return to them. I will certainly be buying any Elder Scrolls or Fallout games they are involved with in the future.

If the bugs bother you, the solution is simple - take your gaming dollars elsewhere.

But the whole, "I knew Bethesda games often have glitches or bugs and when I ran out and bought this one at release, it had them and now I must go online to vent my rage." seems a little absurd.

My usual skyrim play goes like this

1st hour-nothing wrong
2nd hour-nothing wrong
3rd hour- a few broken textures which i normally just go to main menu then go back to playing
4th hour- even more broken textures then it crashes out of the blue and I stop playing

My skyrim play goes like this

1st hour - nothing wrong
6th hour - Hmm... enchanting bug - look online - find fix
7th hour - nothing wrong
83rd hour - Hmm.. that Greybeard isn't coming inside to give me the next quest. Reload, works fine.
106th hour - I should play Saints Row the Third too. Damn, I hate Shaundi now and what is with this linear plot instead of picking which gang I go after.
111th hour - Saints Row beaten and a couple hours played with new character to verify I can't change story arc (also to get achievement for playing it both male and female).
112th hour - Back to Skyrim. Nothing wrong, but I should probably do something about finishing that main quest line.
122nd hour - nothing wrong

 

[Aeonknight]

You must not play on the PS3. I expected the game to work on a fundamental level. Instead, I got this:
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-vs-ps3-skyrim-lag

Edit: I also don't understand why fans are blindly defending the game and Bethesda.

Blindly? I assure, I see Skyrim quite clearly and what I see is a masterpiece of gaming.

As for Bethesda? I also have clearly within my gaze Arena, Daggerfall, Morrowind, Oblivion, and Fallout 3.

I don't know why people are blindly shitting on a game and a developer that are so obviously great.


edit: I just noticed your avatar, which renders your post extremely hypocritical in my opinion.

Masterpiece of gaming? Come back and say that when your dragons aren't steering with their asses. The sheer incompetance of Bethesda's Q/A is legendary throughout the industry.

 

[Fijiman]

I'm curious as to why everyone is complaining about Skyrim's glitches? There not that bad, and this is a Bethesda game... I'm surprised it was playable at launch. It's a fantastic game, and I don't know why so many people are taking the piss out of it because of a few bugs here and there, and in a game as massive as this, it would be unusual if there weren't a few coding hicups here and there.

It's actually quite simple. A majority of humans love to b**** and whine about almost every little thing that they can. A lot of people probably won't be willing to openly admit this fact, but it does tend to be true. I personally love finding glitches in these games as long as the glitch I find hasn't f'ed up my game so that I have to revert back to my last save or autosave, which hopefully wasn't more than thirty minutes before that point.

 

[CaptOfSerenity]

You must not play on the PS3. I expected the game to work on a fundamental level. Instead, I got this:
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-vs-ps3-skyrim-lag

Edit: I also don't understand why fans are blindly defending the game and Bethesda.

I was about to say: just because you haven't found any glitches doesn't mean they haven't affected thousands of others.

the PS3 version is broken, and I feel bad for those gamers. People shouldn't be defending Bethesda; they should be asking for Bethesda to own up to their mistake.

 

[Darh Abdomino]

All I know is that it was given the most fanfare of any game I've ever seen during its first couple weeks of release, but now its getting just as much hatred. Makes me wonder if I should even get it. In any case, I think it has to do with the inherent desire to see something popular taken down a notch. Who was it who said "We like to watch the stars, but we like it even more when they burn up" (or something along those lines)?

 

[VanityGirl]

Because, when you dump 60+ hours into your mage and the game starts to lag up, then you feel robbed.

Saying "it's a bethesda game" means nothing. So, it's a Bethesda game, does that mean I'm supposed to ignore game breaking glitches? Hell no. Ok, falling through the map and texture glitches can be ignored, my frame rate dropping cannot.

Are all these bugs and glitches only on the console versions? I own the PC version, and I've cleared over a hundred dungeons, done countless quests and explored nearly every corner of the game and I've only encountered one major bug, where a person I had to kill for a quest wasn't there (but I reloaded a save and he appeared). Are we playing different games or something?

No, the glitches are on all platforms. It's really the luck of the draw. Some people are very lucky to have no problems at all, others are having massive amounts of problems. I just ran into a few myself here recently. -_-"

 

[R5-Reject]

I had a few Broken quests and that pissed me off but I enjoyed the game for the most part as bugs were rare and didn't stop me from enjoying the game. Then the 1.3 patch came out and now I CTD (crash to desktop) constantly.

All the F#$%ing time.

I struggle with my new found rage.

 

[RedDeadFred]

I'm not sure. PS3 issues aside, the game isn't really all that buggy. I've had one crash and that's it. I swear sometimes I think people just make up these things to troll the game...

 

[VanityGirl]

OMGF Just Read This:
Skyrim is NOT a bad game. What is bad, is that after we gamers have been merrily enjoying the game and have leveled our character up, we began to notice things... Our happy world of Skyrim was turned upside down when all of a sudden, dragons began to fly backwards, frame rates dropped to 0 and in my case, one of my quest givers just vanished into thin air.

I'm upset that after shelling out a big chunk of money, I can't really play for an extended period of time without the game saying "Meh, you've played enough" and pooping out on me.
This has been a MASSIVELY reported problem and Bethesda has quite frankly had their thumbs up their asses about it.

The PS3 version is very clearly broken with a high number of users reporting the game to be unplayable.

I love Bethesda games, honesly they have always made fantastic RPG games, but sadly, like New Vegas, the Skyrim honeymoon is over and we can now see the flaws and game breaking glitches Bethesda left us to drown in.

-Signed
An Angry Gamer With A Broken Skyrim

 

[Shia-Neko-Chan]

You know what, this thread makes me smile. It really does.

Gaming community, I'll never doubt you ever again.

I thought everyone universally ignored Bethesda's incompetence and called everything they make a masterpiece, no matter how incredibly buggy or soulless the game turns out to be.

It seems like this game's going to need another UOP or in this case USP.

 

[Alphakirby]

I don't know why, but I very nearly never suffer from bugs.
The only time I did was in New Vegas, when Rex took forever to get back to the Lucky 38.

Maybe the things I use to play games are magic or something.
Or I'm just lucky with this kind of thing.

 

[Paladin Anderson]

It's fashionable to hate things that are popular.

 

[Bobbity]

Some people are genuinely bug-ridden, and for them I feel sorry, but there's also this tendancy for people to ***** about it just to go against the flow.

 

[Jason Pritchard]

Because god forbid people get mad about game-breaking/incredibly severe bugs and engine problems.

That's just plain whinging.

Yes, it's a Bethesda game. Well, so fucking what? Why does Bethesda get this special seat of honour? Yes, they can't find all of bugs because Skyrim is a big game, but almost every major problem that people are complaining about are issues that a blind man could have stumbled upon.

exactly a lot of the PS3 glitches appear through normal play through, I shouldn't have to hard-reset my PS3 after 2-3 hours because it freezes with NO lag or warning.

 

[synulia]

That logic makes no sense. If it's popular then it's fashionable, therefore not liking it is an unpopular belief, making it unfashionable.

 

[Sandernista]

Because, when you dump 60+ hours into your mage and the game starts to lag up, then you feel robbed.

When a single player game lasts me 60 hours and I haven't even touched the main quest I'm amazed.

 

[predatorpulse7]

I'm curious as to why everyone is complaining about Skyrim's glitches? There not that bad, and this is a Bethesda game... I'm surprised it was playable at launch. It's a fantastic game, and I don't know why so many people are taking the piss out of it because of a few bugs here and there, and in a game as massive as this, it would be unusual if there weren't a few coding hicups here and there.

I hope you're joking. "Whining" is how s**t gets fixed. The phrase "I'm surprised it's playable at launch" basically spells out your whole post. Do you realize how stupid it sounds? It's like buying a car and being surprised that the engine runs.

Let me tell you my experience with this game: Game arrives(pc version), I install it, really psyched up about the whole thing, I try to play, it crashes in the main menu. Panicked I look online for a solution only to find that it's a sound issue. None of the games I ran this year(recent releases) had this issue and my sound drivers are up to date. So I change the sound settings and it's ok. I play the game, I find out it's quite good but as I wonder through the "wasteland" I notice that textures look like s**t when viewed from up close(highest settings with aa and anisotropic maxed) and that the enviroment doesn't cast shadows.And I am getting constantly pissed off at the interface. Game is still entertaining though.

After a couple of days I come across Riften and sneaking around in the world stealing s**t, I try to travel to Riften and the game crashes. Oh well. I restart and the game crashes again when I fast travel. Again, I look online only to find out Bethesda has put a 2GB ram limit on how much memory can be used and that's why I am getting crashes. WHAT THE F**K? In an age where 2GB ram is considered minimum and 4GB is basically the norm, Bethesda decided to crap on PC players. Thank you Bethesda.

My real revelation about how polished(not) this game was came when I discovered skyrimnexus which gave me the 4gb fix(to use more ram), hd textures, better shaders(much better if I am being honest), gave me SHADOWS ON ENVIROMENT, the option to turn vsync on and off, a decent UI and fixed a memory leak, among many other things.

Now the question we as gamers(especially PC gamers), have to pose to ourselves is: Shouldn't Bethesda be doing the things that the guys at skyrimnexus did? These guys didn't just improve the game, they basically fixed it in many respects, for PC gamers at least. Bethesda? Their first patch gave us backwards flying dragons. LAWL.

The game itself is good but a game riddled with so many problems shouldn't have near universal praise. To quote another guy on the internet, I can't wait till someone does a actual CRITICAL review of Skyrim, the good with the bad not just OMG IT HAS DRAGONS "argument".

 

[Joccaren]

Because I am unable to complete numerous quests thanks to bugs that it seems are overlooked because Bethesda wanted me to play the game in a specific way. I am unable to hand some books that people have asked me to find over because I found them early, before getting the quest, and now they are adding about 6 weight all up to my character, can not be removed because they are a quest item, can not be handed in for the quest as the quest thinks I haven't found them yet, and all round drags my experience down. I can't even find the quest IDs to use console commands to move me up 1 step in the quest thanks to no tutorial telling me how to get the quest ID of an individual quest, as opposed to all of the 50 or so I have currently, and nobody knowing the ID of the radiant quests. Stuff like this shouldn't happen, and is somewhat game breaking. I have a right to complain.

That and the shitty 2Gb RAM limit that crashed my game if I installed more than 20 mods (All graphical), and now that I've got the 4Gb Skyrim mod, I can run all 50 of the graphics mods I wanted to run.

Yeah, Bethesda does this. Yeah, its to be expected with a game this size. No, that does not mean I should accept it. No, I should complain as that is the one way these things get fixed.