Why all the complaints about Skyrim?

[Bobbity]

Some people are genuinely bug-ridden, and for them I feel sorry, but there's also this tendancy for people to ***** about it just to go against the flow.

 

[Jason Pritchard]

Because god forbid people get mad about game-breaking/incredibly severe bugs and engine problems.

That's just plain whinging.

Yes, it's a Bethesda game. Well, so fucking what? Why does Bethesda get this special seat of honour? Yes, they can't find all of bugs because Skyrim is a big game, but almost every major problem that people are complaining about are issues that a blind man could have stumbled upon.

exactly a lot of the PS3 glitches appear through normal play through, I shouldn't have to hard-reset my PS3 after 2-3 hours because it freezes with NO lag or warning.

 

[synulia]

That logic makes no sense. If it's popular then it's fashionable, therefore not liking it is an unpopular belief, making it unfashionable.

 

[Sandernista]

Because, when you dump 60+ hours into your mage and the game starts to lag up, then you feel robbed.

When a single player game lasts me 60 hours and I haven't even touched the main quest I'm amazed.

 

[predatorpulse7]

I'm curious as to why everyone is complaining about Skyrim's glitches? There not that bad, and this is a Bethesda game... I'm surprised it was playable at launch. It's a fantastic game, and I don't know why so many people are taking the piss out of it because of a few bugs here and there, and in a game as massive as this, it would be unusual if there weren't a few coding hicups here and there.

I hope you're joking. "Whining" is how s**t gets fixed. The phrase "I'm surprised it's playable at launch" basically spells out your whole post. Do you realize how stupid it sounds? It's like buying a car and being surprised that the engine runs.

Let me tell you my experience with this game: Game arrives(pc version), I install it, really psyched up about the whole thing, I try to play, it crashes in the main menu. Panicked I look online for a solution only to find that it's a sound issue. None of the games I ran this year(recent releases) had this issue and my sound drivers are up to date. So I change the sound settings and it's ok. I play the game, I find out it's quite good but as I wonder through the "wasteland" I notice that textures look like s**t when viewed from up close(highest settings with aa and anisotropic maxed) and that the enviroment doesn't cast shadows.And I am getting constantly pissed off at the interface. Game is still entertaining though.

After a couple of days I come across Riften and sneaking around in the world stealing s**t, I try to travel to Riften and the game crashes. Oh well. I restart and the game crashes again when I fast travel. Again, I look online only to find out Bethesda has put a 2GB ram limit on how much memory can be used and that's why I am getting crashes. WHAT THE F**K? In an age where 2GB ram is considered minimum and 4GB is basically the norm, Bethesda decided to crap on PC players. Thank you Bethesda.

My real revelation about how polished(not) this game was came when I discovered skyrimnexus which gave me the 4gb fix(to use more ram), hd textures, better shaders(much better if I am being honest), gave me SHADOWS ON ENVIROMENT, the option to turn vsync on and off, a decent UI and fixed a memory leak, among many other things.

Now the question we as gamers(especially PC gamers), have to pose to ourselves is: Shouldn't Bethesda be doing the things that the guys at skyrimnexus did? These guys didn't just improve the game, they basically fixed it in many respects, for PC gamers at least. Bethesda? Their first patch gave us backwards flying dragons. LAWL.

The game itself is good but a game riddled with so many problems shouldn't have near universal praise. To quote another guy on the internet, I can't wait till someone does a actual CRITICAL review of Skyrim, the good with the bad not just OMG IT HAS DRAGONS "argument".

 

[Joccaren]

Because I am unable to complete numerous quests thanks to bugs that it seems are overlooked because Bethesda wanted me to play the game in a specific way. I am unable to hand some books that people have asked me to find over because I found them early, before getting the quest, and now they are adding about 6 weight all up to my character, can not be removed because they are a quest item, can not be handed in for the quest as the quest thinks I haven't found them yet, and all round drags my experience down. I can't even find the quest IDs to use console commands to move me up 1 step in the quest thanks to no tutorial telling me how to get the quest ID of an individual quest, as opposed to all of the 50 or so I have currently, and nobody knowing the ID of the radiant quests. Stuff like this shouldn't happen, and is somewhat game breaking. I have a right to complain.

That and the shitty 2Gb RAM limit that crashed my game if I installed more than 20 mods (All graphical), and now that I've got the 4Gb Skyrim mod, I can run all 50 of the graphics mods I wanted to run.

Yeah, Bethesda does this. Yeah, its to be expected with a game this size. No, that does not mean I should accept it. No, I should complain as that is the one way these things get fixed.

 

[MadBlueWinnie]

My dragons fly backwards, into mountains, spaz out, slow my game and cause the entire game to crash if I attack them. If I find a dragon I just have to walk away, since it won't attack me either.
Therefore I have no dragon souls or shouts past the ones given to me. That's kinda a game breaker for me.

 

[Jovip]

because it's popular, people will hate on it to seem edgy or something stupid like that.
it has it's problems, and if it was any worse of a game they would destroy it. but as it is standing, especially now patched. it is an amazing experience.

 

[aaronobst]

because it's popular, people will hate on it to seem edgy or something stupid like that

Oh please... People are hating on it because it is literally broken. On the PS3 anyway, I can't speak for the other versions.

I've been trying every possible solution and remedy to get the game to work, at this point, I'm around 11MB and 76 hours into my game and the game is literally unplayable. I load it up then, 5 to 10 minutes into playing, the game freezes. The screen stops moving, and it won't respond to any input. I leave it going for a few minutes to see if it'll recover, but it never does. I always have to manually shut down the ps3, which means waiting for the "Checking File System" procedure to finish, which takes about 10 minutes for me. These crashes used to happen much later into playing, to the point where I could live with them, but they since made a huge jump in speed. The crashes, I should note, happen any time. Sometimes during loading screens, sometimes during dialog. It doesn't seem to matter what's happening.

So, long story short, every time I start up Skyrim, it crashes 5-10 minutes into playing. The game is literally unplayable in this state. It's not stuttering. It's not stalling. It's crashing.

I was having a good time then the frames started dropping until it was like an interactive slideshow.

This too, in a nutshell this is my Skyrim experience:

Spoiler

It's actually quite depressing, the only game I TRULY WANTED to play this year and it fucking flopped

 

[DRes82]

You must not play on the PS3. I expected the game to work on a fundamental level. Instead, I got this:
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-vs-ps3-skyrim-lag

Edit: I also don't understand why fans are blindly defending the game and Bethesda.

Blindly? I assure, I see Skyrim quite clearly and what I see is a masterpiece of gaming.

As for Bethesda? I also have clearly within my gaze Arena, Daggerfall, Morrowind, Oblivion, and Fallout 3.

I don't know why people are blindly shitting on a game and a developer that are so obviously great.


edit: I just noticed your avatar, which renders your post extremely hypocritical in my opinion.

They released a game on the PS3 that was broken. It essentially imposed a time limit on one save file. I'm sorry that you feel the need to make excuses for them. And what is hypocritical about Pinkie Pie?

Where have I made any excuses for Bethesda's games? They don't need excuses...they're awesome. If a few little bugs get you all bent out of shape...don't play it. They've sold enough copies of the game and will continue to do so in the future.

Also you know damned well why that particular avatar is hypocritcal. Because people like me think its weird that grown men are so infatuated with a show made for little girls. Because pony fans have been trying desperately to gain acceptance from every person on the internet.

 

[DRes82]

You must not play on the PS3. I expected the game to work on a fundamental level. Instead, I got this:
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-vs-ps3-skyrim-lag

Edit: I also don't understand why fans are blindly defending the game and Bethesda.

Blindly? I assure, I see Skyrim quite clearly and what I see is a masterpiece of gaming.

As for Bethesda? I also have clearly within my gaze Arena, Daggerfall, Morrowind, Oblivion, and Fallout 3.

I don't know why people are blindly shitting on a game and a developer that are so obviously great.


edit: I just noticed your avatar, which renders your post extremely hypocritical in my opinion.

Masterpiece of gaming? Come back and say that when your dragons aren't steering with their asses. The sheer incompetance of Bethesda's Q/A is legendary throughout the industry.

I'm back, and my dragons don't 'steer with their asses'. In fact, I have yet to encounter any substantial bug.

On what planet is Bethesda's QA 'legendary for its incompetance'? Want to back that statement up with sources?

 

[Jovip]

because it's popular, people will hate on it to seem edgy or something stupid like that

Oh please... People are hating on it because it is literally broken. On the PS3 anyway, I can't speak for the other versions.

I've been trying every possible solution and remedy to get the game to work, at this point, I'm around 11MB and 76 hours into my game and the game is literally unplayable. I load it up then, 5 to 10 minutes into playing, the game freezes. The screen stops moving, and it won't respond to any input. I leave it going for a few minutes to see if it'll recover, but it never does. I always have to manually shut down the ps3, which means waiting for the "Checking File System" procedure to finish, which takes about 10 minutes for me. These crashes used to happen much later into playing, to the point where I could live with them, but they since made a huge jump in speed. The crashes, I should note, happen any time. Sometimes during loading screens, sometimes during dialog. It doesn't seem to matter what's happening.

So, long story short, every time I start up Skyrim, it crashes 5-10 minutes into playing. The game is literally unplayable in this state. It's not stuttering. It's not stalling. It's crashing.


It's actually quite depressing, the only game I TRULY WANTED to play this year and it fucking flopped

Hey, i've been playing this on ps3 just as well since release day, i got to the point where i needed to stop because it was completely unplayable, lagging out every 2 minutes and just crashing randomly. But even then, let it cool down for a few hours i could get an hour in everyone once in a while and i was fine with that. But since the 1.2 patch (which seriously, get it) on ps3, and not slim. the first fat versions. It ran perfectly, have since created a new charecter with 120 hours in, and it's just flowing like ink from a pen. Only pauses are from me when i'm thinking about something or going to the shitter.

 

[targren]

Yes, your right, that is crazy. Like I said, compared to the amount of bugs the company normally has with their games, this is nothing. It doesn't take away from gameplay in most cases, and makes the game a little bit funnier. I find that many people on this site try to find everything wrong with a game that they can. Why can't people just leave it as whether they liked it or not?

In other words, Bethesda has always been incompetent, so we can't hold them to the standards of an ostensibly AAA game?

That position might have been tenable, on a "don't pick on the macaroni, glue, and glitter pictures from the 'special' class" logic, if they hadn't overhyped and overmarketed, including, I'm almost certain, hiring "reputation management firms" to build up astroturf on message boards.

And, a related post:

On what planet is Bethesda's QA 'legendary for its incompetance'? Want to back that statement up with sources?

Sure:

Oblivion launch, Fallout 3 launch, Skyrim launch...

 

[Oly J]

You must not play on the PS3. I expected the game to work on a fundamental level. Instead, I got this:
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-vs-ps3-skyrim-lag

Edit: I also don't understand why fans are blindly defending the game and Bethesda.

I have it on PS3 and it's not too bad, it must vary, ok there's some lag here and there but nothing too bad, also I didn't update that patch so no backwards dragons for me, and I'm not going to update until everyone else has the next patch to see how much more/less playable it makes the game

EDIT by the way I've put in over 100 hourz

 

[GundamSentinel]

You must not play on the PS3. I expected the game to work on a fundamental level. Instead, I got this:
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-vs-ps3-skyrim-lag

What they show there is actually quite mild compared to what I sometimes experience. At least they could get from Riverwood to Whiterun without a fatal crash...

 

[Kungfu_Teddybear]

Everyone's experience is different on a game this big, especially with bugs. You may not have had many bugs but that doesn't mean they aren't there. I have also been one of the lucky ones with the bugs, I've not come across any bad ones at all, the worst one I've had was a bugged out side quest. But I have seen enough video evidence to know that the bugs are there and some of them are fairly game breaking, and people have a right to complain about that.

 

[Delsana]

Lack of any real reason to do anything.

Immersion-breaking content all over the place.

Poor facial conversations.

Bug and crash galore even on high-end computers.

And all the stuff that was hated in the other Bethesda games.

People LOVED Witcher 2 when it first came out, but then it died down as people moved on, it will be the same for Skyrim.

 

[seraphy]

People always whine about glitches. People are however way too accepting about Bethesda glitches. I think many people who whined incessantly about New Vegas bugs are same people who are now saying that Skyrim bugs aren't that bad, while in fact yes yes they are.

Some consistency would be nice.

I'm back, and my dragons don't 'steer with their asses'. In fact, I have yet to encounter any substantial bug.

On what planet is Bethesda's QA 'legendary for its incompetance'? Want to back that statement up with sources?

Here is unofficial skyrim buglist, it is unbelievable.

http://forums.bethsoft.com/index.php?/topic/1309733-unofficial-buglist/

You also have seen how their first 2 patches actually made game worse right? That is QA department being legendarily incompetent if anything.

 

[Frankster]

I'm curious as to why everyone is complaining about Skyrim's glitches? There not that bad, and this is a Bethesda game... I'm surprised it was playable at launch. .

It wasn't playable to me until this morning when I found a fan made patch.
But had I seen this thread before today, would have proceeded to vehemently argue i've got a right to get pissy when a game I paid full price for doesn't even start (it was the glitch where at the start the npcs would freeze and do nothing after beheading the first guy).

Works great now, with occasional crash to desktop which seems to be because of memory leaks or 2 gig of ram limit being reached or something, but after getting used to playing NV when it would crash every 30 mins i'm willing to forgive skyrim crashing after a few hours.