Why are emos hated?

[fundayz]

Emos are hated because they represent the worst about teenagers. They are self-centered, self-pitying, unoriginal teenagers, who think that being "underground" and "rebellious" makes them special. Also, many of them think that because they are outcasts they are somehow "misunderstood" when they are just annoying little sh*theads.

Not all emos a bad however, some of them are pleasant human beings. It also happens that these "emos" actually dress, look, and act they way they do because thats who they are; not because what their favorite band/totally rad friend looks like.

Oh I almost forgot, many of them have a horrible sense of humor.

 

[Crystalite]

In any case--attention seeking cutting or pain-pleasure cutting are still self-inflicted and self-created. You have nobody to blame but yourself for being a dumbass and putting daddy's razor on your wrists.

Yes, of course it is self-inflicted. As is drinking and starving yourself. It is something only you can do to yourself. Ok, maybe anorexia does not fit as a comparison, if it has somekind of neurological backround.
With alcoholism I just don´t see the difference.
You do something that feels good, and then you just can´t stop, even if you know it is destroying you.

Why is the alcoholic not a dumbass for putting the bottle to his lips, again and again?
Of course, there is a physical addiction, but certainly not from the beginning.

And, on another note:
Of course you have noone but yourself to blame!
Have you ever heard someone blame others for their own cutting?
Ok, that would be rather stupid.
I have never heard anyone say anything like that, or heard anyone try to pander off their responsibility for their lives and bodys to others. Not even the teenagers I have known.

 

[Tomany2]

You Have To Admit Though, They Do Look Pretty Hot...

 

[Spacewolf]

In any case--attention seeking cutting or pain-pleasure cutting are still self-inflicted and self-created. You have nobody to blame but yourself for being a dumbass and putting daddy's razor on your wrists.

actually it is possible to get addicted to the endorphins relesed which numb pain and also when healing. but with teen emos at least its probably to get attention as they say down the road not across the street

 

[Therumancer]

Hello fellow escapists!
A thought just struck me, why do most of us hate emos? They may be down and depressed. But why do we hate those who choose to wear black and dispise the conformus. They are probably the most hated social group, but are they so much worse than us others? I personally don't find them that irritating there are plenty of other people who are way worse...

Because Emos in general are just out to get attention.

I think it's a negative label applied to those who want to pretend they experience more angst than the norm to get sympathy and "cool factor" given how the media has presented it, but really just wind up being annoying.

Certain people tried to turn it into a "movement" in response, but I'm one of those people who question whether it actually exists in that context. It's mostly a bunch of rejects being rejected.

I do not see much of a connection between "Goth" and "Emo" other than some similarities in dress and so on, oftentimes coming from Emos trying to be Goths but being rejected by the rest of the clique in whatever area they are in.

That said, my experience has also been that a good portion of Goths are those who have "dark" interests in horror movies, some aspects of occult theory, and other myriad things, but don't take it too seriously and are actually having a lot of fun with the whole schtick. One of the reasons why a lot of them wind up being somewhat accepted since most people realize how it can be fun, even if they don't take it there themselves. A lot of the Emos on the other hand try and present this kind of thing with 100% seriousness and convey a kind of belief that is just absolutly nerdy.

As one person I knew put it, A Goth is someone who likes Vampire Movies, dresses in a fashion inspired by the stereotypes, and adopts some of the mannerisms. An Emo is a guy who is going to seriously tell other people he thinks he's a Vampire, and login to websites where other, equally strange people and have long discussions on the subject. A Goth is someone who might read stuff written by guys like Aleister Crowly, or The Necronomicon, wear symbols, discuss the theories with others, and occasionally play the role for the mundanes. An Emo is someone who will take it to the point of actually trying to act like it's a real secret, and actually try and organize casting some of the spells, expecting them to work.

Of course I don't think that really summarizes it properly, but that's some food for thought.

 

[Jaranja]

The cut up your arm emo is the real emo, what you're talking about is a knock-off goth. Which is just that much more pathetic.

That... doesn't make sense.
The emo isn't a knock-off goth.
An emo is a person who dresses in dark clothes and listens to emo rock.

And that is the real emo, seeing as that definition came first.

That's true.

The cut up your arm emo is an attention seeker.

 

[Extra-Ordinary]

"And in the end, the love you take is equal to the love you make." They don't make, and therefore, cannot take.

 

[Seydaman]

Define emotional person
I don't get it.

 

[Hollock]

I think two reasons. One because they generally come across as whiney. And the other reason is that they come across as hippocrits because they complain about conformity, and people being sheeps (and that pisses people off two because they're basically saying if you don't act like them you're a stupid, or otherwise "don't get it".) all while doing their best to conform to their own social groups (which is perfectly normal because if we didn't all try and get along nobody would know/trust anyone else and human society would reach a standstill.) Basically people perceive them as whiney, immature, and think that they think because they wear black and skinny jeans that they're better than you. I don't really know any personally and I'm sure thats not what most of them are like but thats the sterotype as far as I know it.

 

[Bruin]

In any case--attention seeking cutting or pain-pleasure cutting are still self-inflicted and self-created. You have nobody to blame but yourself for being a dumbass and putting daddy's razor on your wrists.

Yes, of course it is self-inflicted. As is drinking and starving yourself. It is something only you can do to yourself. Ok, maybe anorexia does not fit as a comparison, if it has somekind of neurological backround.
With alcoholism I just don´t see the difference.
You do something that feels good, and then you just can´t stop, even if you know it is destroying you.

Why is the alcoholic not a dumbass for putting the bottle to his lips, again and again?
Of course, there is a physical addiction, but certainly not from the beginning.

And, on another note:
Of course you have noone but yourself to blame!
Have you ever heard someone blame others for their own cutting?
Ok, that would be rather stupid.
I have never heard anyone say anything like that, or heard anyone try to pander off their responsibility for their lives and bodys to others. Not even the teenagers I have known.

I never said alcoholics weren't dumbasses.

Actually, that's all I've ever heard cutters say.

It's everybody around them, never themselves that's the problem, so they say.

Because they're emotional children who think slicing themselves up will solve anything. It just makes you look stupid. There are far more productive things you could do if you truly hated your situation. Such as getting the fuck over whatever problem you have.

I realize in some cases that isn't easy, but problems don't fix themselves and cutting isn't a solution either.

 

[Tiamat666]

I don't hate emos. But I do think it's ridiculous to be whiny and feel bad about everything while living by the highest standards in one of the richest countries in the world.

You know, there are people in other parts of the world with REAL troubles. Like getting enough food to feed the family, not getting shot or kidnapped by bandits, terrorists or guerillas, not being sold as a sex slave or working as a slave labourer for 15hrs a day in a chinese factory, etc.

I think emos should be sent to Africa for a few months to experience what it means to have real problems.

 

[Sindaine]

I've known all three of those groups: Cutters, anorexics and alcoholics.
Cutting is different than anorexia. It's done for different purposes; their goals are different.
Cutting is different from alcoholism. Again, done for different purposes and alcoholism is an addiction.
Cutting is a bad fad, done for attention and those who seriously try to kill themselves are either bonkers or cowards.
It's not a real sickness. It's a sickness you create when you want to whore your body out for attention and when you almost intentionally let emotions get the entirety of you. That's why you don't see many adults cutting themselves.

Ok...
No, you do not know cutters if those you know do it for attention.
Yes, there are quite a lot of adults who do it. Maybe they are not as eager to shove it in your face.
Of course the sicknesses are different, and done for different "reasons".
Point is, if you are addicted to something, physically, or in this case, mentally, this constitutes a sickness. And yes, pain can be an addiction, a very powerfull one at that.

You do not see adults cut themselves, because if they do, they hide it.
That is not attention seeking then, is it.
And it has absolutely nothing to do with beeing suicidal, it is in fact the opposite in some sense. The crux is that you do it to live.

Do not go to teenagers for experience with these things, I would say...

All of the cutters I have known in my life have done it for attention. A little common bond they can share with their other emo friends while they listen to System of a Down in their basements.

There is an elephant behind you. You just can't see it, so it must be there.

The first one isn't a sickness. It's not a mental disorder. Anorexia is a skewed vision of yourself as overweight. No matter how much weight you lose, you constantly believe you're overweight. You keep starving yourself and eat less and less as your frustration builds. Alcoholism is an addiction to--You guessed it--Alcohol. The feeling of being drunk is too elating and self-satisfying for you to go too long without a drink.

In any case--attention seeking cutting or pain-pleasure cutting are still self-inflicted and self-created. You have nobody to blame but yourself for being a dumbass and putting daddy's razor on your wrists.

Incidently, the only cutter I knew was addicted, mentally and physicly, to the endorphin rush--the man who used to molest her would have her do that to keep her calm while he got his thing on. Pretty sick.

 

[XIGBARx13]

Hello fellow escapists!
A thought just struck me, why do most of us hate emos? They may be down and depressed. But why do we hate those who choose to wear black and dispise the conformus. They are probably the most hated social group, but are they so much worse than us others? I personally don't find them that irritating there are plenty of other people who are way worse...

Actually, I think furries are considered by many to be the lowest of the low (or at least people that know what a furry is). And I can't say I blame them.
I think most people don't like emos though because (at least to me) it seems like they're just looking for attention when they walk around in all black and never smile.

 

[daemon37]

Long version: I hate emos because I have chronic depression. It really sucks, and I've tried to treat it as best as I can with counseling/medication. So people pretending to be sad because it's popular makes me angry. These people do not know real sadness.

Short version: They're posers

 

[DavidTheWise]

Because they want to be hated. :/

 

[Bruin]

I've known all three of those groups: Cutters, anorexics and alcoholics.
Cutting is different than anorexia. It's done for different purposes; their goals are different.
Cutting is different from alcoholism. Again, done for different purposes and alcoholism is an addiction.
Cutting is a bad fad, done for attention and those who seriously try to kill themselves are either bonkers or cowards.
It's not a real sickness. It's a sickness you create when you want to whore your body out for attention and when you almost intentionally let emotions get the entirety of you. That's why you don't see many adults cutting themselves.

Ok...
No, you do not know cutters if those you know do it for attention.
Yes, there are quite a lot of adults who do it. Maybe they are not as eager to shove it in your face.
Of course the sicknesses are different, and done for different "reasons".
Point is, if you are addicted to something, physically, or in this case, mentally, this constitutes a sickness. And yes, pain can be an addiction, a very powerfull one at that.

You do not see adults cut themselves, because if they do, they hide it.
That is not attention seeking then, is it.
And it has absolutely nothing to do with beeing suicidal, it is in fact the opposite in some sense. The crux is that you do it to live.

Do not go to teenagers for experience with these things, I would say...

All of the cutters I have known in my life have done it for attention. A little common bond they can share with their other emo friends while they listen to System of a Down in their basements.

There is an elephant behind you. You just can't see it, so it must be there.

The first one isn't a sickness. It's not a mental disorder. Anorexia is a skewed vision of yourself as overweight. No matter how much weight you lose, you constantly believe you're overweight. You keep starving yourself and eat less and less as your frustration builds. Alcoholism is an addiction to--You guessed it--Alcohol. The feeling of being drunk is too elating and self-satisfying for you to go too long without a drink.

In any case--attention seeking cutting or pain-pleasure cutting are still self-inflicted and self-created. You have nobody to blame but yourself for being a dumbass and putting daddy's razor on your wrists.

Incidently, the only cutter I knew was addicted, mentally and physicly, to the endorphin rush--the man who used to molest her would have her do that to keep her calm while he got his thing on. Pretty sick.

That's pretty fucking gross.

I resign that point to you.

I wouldn't exactly call that "emo", though, unless she dressed in black all the time, wrote shitty poetry about her life and had nothing to complain about.

But she seemed to have something quite substantial to complain about.

 

[Crystalite]

Actually, that's all I've ever heard cutters say.
It's everybody around them, never themselves that's the problem, so they say.

In that case, I get your point. I would not be able to tolerate something like that very well myself, either. It is just that I did not hear that, the people I know are always very well aware that they are the problem, sometimes even to much so.

Because they're emotional children who think slicing themselves up will solve anything. It just makes you look stupid. There are far more productive things you could do if you truly hated your situation. Such as getting the fuck over whatever problem you have.

It is not supposed to be a solution, but an escape. Nobody thinks it will solve problems, it only makes you feel better till you do solve them. And no, not every problem has a solution.
There is such a thing as an emotional disorder. Depression for instance. If it is real, it is nothing you can "solve", it is a part of your personality.

And there are people with genuine trauma (see above). Even among teenagers.

 

[TheRundownRabbit]

Because Emo's TRY to make others depressed because they dont understand that life wont make happiness and that they have to get their own happiness