Why are emos hated?

[Extra-Ordinary]

"And in the end, the love you take is equal to the love you make." They don't make, and therefore, cannot take.

 

[Seydaman]

Define emotional person
I don't get it.

 

[Hollock]

I think two reasons. One because they generally come across as whiney. And the other reason is that they come across as hippocrits because they complain about conformity, and people being sheeps (and that pisses people off two because they're basically saying if you don't act like them you're a stupid, or otherwise "don't get it".) all while doing their best to conform to their own social groups (which is perfectly normal because if we didn't all try and get along nobody would know/trust anyone else and human society would reach a standstill.) Basically people perceive them as whiney, immature, and think that they think because they wear black and skinny jeans that they're better than you. I don't really know any personally and I'm sure thats not what most of them are like but thats the sterotype as far as I know it.

 

[Bruin]

In any case--attention seeking cutting or pain-pleasure cutting are still self-inflicted and self-created. You have nobody to blame but yourself for being a dumbass and putting daddy's razor on your wrists.

Yes, of course it is self-inflicted. As is drinking and starving yourself. It is something only you can do to yourself. Ok, maybe anorexia does not fit as a comparison, if it has somekind of neurological backround.
With alcoholism I just don´t see the difference.
You do something that feels good, and then you just can´t stop, even if you know it is destroying you.

Why is the alcoholic not a dumbass for putting the bottle to his lips, again and again?
Of course, there is a physical addiction, but certainly not from the beginning.

And, on another note:
Of course you have noone but yourself to blame!
Have you ever heard someone blame others for their own cutting?
Ok, that would be rather stupid.
I have never heard anyone say anything like that, or heard anyone try to pander off their responsibility for their lives and bodys to others. Not even the teenagers I have known.

I never said alcoholics weren't dumbasses.

Actually, that's all I've ever heard cutters say.

It's everybody around them, never themselves that's the problem, so they say.

Because they're emotional children who think slicing themselves up will solve anything. It just makes you look stupid. There are far more productive things you could do if you truly hated your situation. Such as getting the fuck over whatever problem you have.

I realize in some cases that isn't easy, but problems don't fix themselves and cutting isn't a solution either.

 

[Tiamat666]

I don't hate emos. But I do think it's ridiculous to be whiny and feel bad about everything while living by the highest standards in one of the richest countries in the world.

You know, there are people in other parts of the world with REAL troubles. Like getting enough food to feed the family, not getting shot or kidnapped by bandits, terrorists or guerillas, not being sold as a sex slave or working as a slave labourer for 15hrs a day in a chinese factory, etc.

I think emos should be sent to Africa for a few months to experience what it means to have real problems.

 

[Sindaine]

I've known all three of those groups: Cutters, anorexics and alcoholics.
Cutting is different than anorexia. It's done for different purposes; their goals are different.
Cutting is different from alcoholism. Again, done for different purposes and alcoholism is an addiction.
Cutting is a bad fad, done for attention and those who seriously try to kill themselves are either bonkers or cowards.
It's not a real sickness. It's a sickness you create when you want to whore your body out for attention and when you almost intentionally let emotions get the entirety of you. That's why you don't see many adults cutting themselves.

Ok...
No, you do not know cutters if those you know do it for attention.
Yes, there are quite a lot of adults who do it. Maybe they are not as eager to shove it in your face.
Of course the sicknesses are different, and done for different "reasons".
Point is, if you are addicted to something, physically, or in this case, mentally, this constitutes a sickness. And yes, pain can be an addiction, a very powerfull one at that.

You do not see adults cut themselves, because if they do, they hide it.
That is not attention seeking then, is it.
And it has absolutely nothing to do with beeing suicidal, it is in fact the opposite in some sense. The crux is that you do it to live.

Do not go to teenagers for experience with these things, I would say...

All of the cutters I have known in my life have done it for attention. A little common bond they can share with their other emo friends while they listen to System of a Down in their basements.

There is an elephant behind you. You just can't see it, so it must be there.

The first one isn't a sickness. It's not a mental disorder. Anorexia is a skewed vision of yourself as overweight. No matter how much weight you lose, you constantly believe you're overweight. You keep starving yourself and eat less and less as your frustration builds. Alcoholism is an addiction to--You guessed it--Alcohol. The feeling of being drunk is too elating and self-satisfying for you to go too long without a drink.

In any case--attention seeking cutting or pain-pleasure cutting are still self-inflicted and self-created. You have nobody to blame but yourself for being a dumbass and putting daddy's razor on your wrists.

Incidently, the only cutter I knew was addicted, mentally and physicly, to the endorphin rush--the man who used to molest her would have her do that to keep her calm while he got his thing on. Pretty sick.

 

[XIGBARx13]

Hello fellow escapists!
A thought just struck me, why do most of us hate emos? They may be down and depressed. But why do we hate those who choose to wear black and dispise the conformus. They are probably the most hated social group, but are they so much worse than us others? I personally don't find them that irritating there are plenty of other people who are way worse...

Actually, I think furries are considered by many to be the lowest of the low (or at least people that know what a furry is). And I can't say I blame them.
I think most people don't like emos though because (at least to me) it seems like they're just looking for attention when they walk around in all black and never smile.

 

[daemon37]

Long version: I hate emos because I have chronic depression. It really sucks, and I've tried to treat it as best as I can with counseling/medication. So people pretending to be sad because it's popular makes me angry. These people do not know real sadness.

Short version: They're posers

 

[DavidTheWise]

Because they want to be hated. :/

 

[Bruin]

I've known all three of those groups: Cutters, anorexics and alcoholics.
Cutting is different than anorexia. It's done for different purposes; their goals are different.
Cutting is different from alcoholism. Again, done for different purposes and alcoholism is an addiction.
Cutting is a bad fad, done for attention and those who seriously try to kill themselves are either bonkers or cowards.
It's not a real sickness. It's a sickness you create when you want to whore your body out for attention and when you almost intentionally let emotions get the entirety of you. That's why you don't see many adults cutting themselves.

Ok...
No, you do not know cutters if those you know do it for attention.
Yes, there are quite a lot of adults who do it. Maybe they are not as eager to shove it in your face.
Of course the sicknesses are different, and done for different "reasons".
Point is, if you are addicted to something, physically, or in this case, mentally, this constitutes a sickness. And yes, pain can be an addiction, a very powerfull one at that.

You do not see adults cut themselves, because if they do, they hide it.
That is not attention seeking then, is it.
And it has absolutely nothing to do with beeing suicidal, it is in fact the opposite in some sense. The crux is that you do it to live.

Do not go to teenagers for experience with these things, I would say...

All of the cutters I have known in my life have done it for attention. A little common bond they can share with their other emo friends while they listen to System of a Down in their basements.

There is an elephant behind you. You just can't see it, so it must be there.

The first one isn't a sickness. It's not a mental disorder. Anorexia is a skewed vision of yourself as overweight. No matter how much weight you lose, you constantly believe you're overweight. You keep starving yourself and eat less and less as your frustration builds. Alcoholism is an addiction to--You guessed it--Alcohol. The feeling of being drunk is too elating and self-satisfying for you to go too long without a drink.

In any case--attention seeking cutting or pain-pleasure cutting are still self-inflicted and self-created. You have nobody to blame but yourself for being a dumbass and putting daddy's razor on your wrists.

Incidently, the only cutter I knew was addicted, mentally and physicly, to the endorphin rush--the man who used to molest her would have her do that to keep her calm while he got his thing on. Pretty sick.

That's pretty fucking gross.

I resign that point to you.

I wouldn't exactly call that "emo", though, unless she dressed in black all the time, wrote shitty poetry about her life and had nothing to complain about.

But she seemed to have something quite substantial to complain about.

 

[Crystalite]

Actually, that's all I've ever heard cutters say.
It's everybody around them, never themselves that's the problem, so they say.

In that case, I get your point. I would not be able to tolerate something like that very well myself, either. It is just that I did not hear that, the people I know are always very well aware that they are the problem, sometimes even to much so.

Because they're emotional children who think slicing themselves up will solve anything. It just makes you look stupid. There are far more productive things you could do if you truly hated your situation. Such as getting the fuck over whatever problem you have.

It is not supposed to be a solution, but an escape. Nobody thinks it will solve problems, it only makes you feel better till you do solve them. And no, not every problem has a solution.
There is such a thing as an emotional disorder. Depression for instance. If it is real, it is nothing you can "solve", it is a part of your personality.

And there are people with genuine trauma (see above). Even among teenagers.

 

[TheRundownRabbit]

Because Emo's TRY to make others depressed because they dont understand that life wont make happiness and that they have to get their own happiness

 

[TheRundownRabbit]

"And in the end, the love you take is equal to the love you make." They don't make, and therefore, cannot take.

Yeah, this too

 

[oppp7]

They're an acceptable target. People just love having punching bags.

 

[Section Crow]

don't mind em don't care about em so moving on!

i think there hated since they bring a depressing atmosphere

 

[SpaceSpork]

Well, real emos are quite annoying for one thing. But about 9.9999999999999 times out of 10, people are called emos wrongly. Anyone who posts a piece of poetry on their blog is instantly dismissed as emo. If you make a video about how you're sad after your dog's death, all the comments read "WHUTS WITTH THIS EMO SHIT". Hell, when TheAmazingAtheist made a video about his father's death, he got called an emo. Not everyone who writes poetry is an emo. Not everyone who's sad is an emo. Can you get that through your thick skull, internet?

 

[Akuuntus]

Alright, I need to really clear some thing up.

For those who don't know (apparently most of you) "Emo" can mean many things. Such as:

A. ORIGINALLY, the term referred to what was mostly an clothing style. It was an offshoot of punk, based mostly around simply wearing whatever the hell you felt like wearing. People who chose to be "emo" tended to be more in touch with their emotions than others, and NOT JUST SADNESS. They'd react more noticeably with sadness, happiness, love, anger, everything. As for the clothing, the 'rules' were almost nonexistent, and much of it could be even fluorescent and eccentric, as opposed to the bland blackness we think of today.

B. People use the word to refer to people who are seriously, legitimately, diagnostically depressed. These people really need help and compassion to be guided through their dark times and avoid leaning towards drastic measures, like committing suicide. I don't see why anyone could really hate these people, as they are usually fairly quiet, and sometimes put on a façade and don't even seem depressed to others.

C. The most common perception, the ones that are actually the most hated. These are the people that are simply attention-seekers; they simply pretend to be depressed and slouch around town looking at the ground, wearing all black and listening to MCR or something. They are the ones who deserve a good sock to the head. They are all narcissistic SOBs (or Bs, as the case may be) who simply want other peoples reaction, whether it's pity or disdain. They feed on the responses of others, similarly to internet trolls. THEY are the annoying, whiny, fake brats that we all love to hate.

D. There is sort of a fourth group. There are some people who do not act as anything remotely connected to Emo, and simply like the clothing and/or music. These ones are a test in judgment, proving that you should not see someone's clothing and hate them for the personality that you assume they have.

I, frankly, hate group C with all my heart, but all the others I have no problem with. I actually like a lot of music that is sometimes considered "Emo", such as Billy Talent and 30 Seconds To Mars. As for conformity, only group A would really have a thing against conformity. Group D is conforming themselves, and C is the DEFINITION of conformity.

"Cutters" could be different things, depending on why they do it and if they actually do. They could be group Bs who are indecisive about suicide, or group Cs who do it because they're 'supposed to'. Or even addicts to the rush it gives you.

Those who do nothing to solve their problems are likely group Bs, who don't because they are depressed (which IS A MENTAL DISORDER, PEOPLE) and lack the energy or will to do anything at all, or again, Cs who don't do anything because they don't actually have a problem.

And Emo has ABSOLUTELY NO CONNECTION TO GOTH WHATSOEVER. Goths are people who believe in and sometimes worship the unholy spirits of the damned. If anything it's closer to a religion than a style. The word 'Goth' has been mangled so much that now anyone wearing black anything is in danger of being called it, or Emo. I once got called Goth for wearing brown cargo shorts and a black XKCD t-shirt that clearly depicted a stick figure with a beaker and calculator shouting "STAND BACK, I'M GOING TO TRY SCIENCE". Labeling itself is stupid, but it only gets worse when people label incorrectly.

As for the actual question, I hate Emos (group C, that is) because they don't care about anyone but themselves. Plus they're whiny and annoying.

TL;DR: there are a lot of people that fit the "Emo" label, but the ones that do it for attention are little annoying pricks. People who cut have different reasons, Those who do nothing could have the disorder that is depression, and Goth =/= Emo AT ALL.

Sorry for having a massive post, but people who generalize Emos into one category are a pet peeve of mine.

 

[Bruin]

Actually, that's all I've ever heard cutters say.
It's everybody around them, never themselves that's the problem, so they say.

In that case, I get your point. I would not be able to tolerate something like that very well myself, either. It is just that I did not hear that, the people I know are always very well aware that they are the problem, sometimes even to much so.

Because they're emotional children who think slicing themselves up will solve anything. It just makes you look stupid. There are far more productive things you could do if you truly hated your situation. Such as getting the fuck over whatever problem you have.

It is not supposed to be a solution, but an escape. Nobody thinks it will solve problems, it only makes you feel better till you do solve them. And no, not every problem has a solution.
There is such a thing as an emotional disorder. Depression for instance. If it is real, it is nothing you can "solve", it is a part of your personality.

And there are people with genuine trauma (see above). Even among teenagers.

I've never been one to shirk away from reality. Even in the cases where I've wanted to the most. I don't get high, I don't drink myself into a stupor and I don't cut myself up.

Every problem has a solution so long as there are problems to be had.

If you make up a problem and therefore make it unsolvable in your own mind you're setting yourself up for failure.

And thusly more cutting.

And a deeper depression.

Medical depression is not a part of your personality in the slightest. It can impact your personality, yes, but it's not a part of it. I think we've all experienced depression on some degree to know it can pass and it can be solved. Either by fixing your problems, by some sort of epiphany or even drugs; depression is something that can be averted and overcome.

 

[hannan4mitch]

Their music sucks. Plain and simple.
EDIT: Side point, how can some of them squeeze into pants so tight my balls hurt just thinking about it?

 

[Crystalite]

I've never been one to shirk away from reality. Even in the cases where I've wanted to the most. I don't get high, I don't drink myself into a stupor and I don't cut myself up.
Every problem has a solution so long as there are problems to be had.
If you make up a problem and therefore make it unsolvable in your own mind you're setting yourself up for failure.
And thusly more cutting.
And a deeper depression.
Medical depression is not a part of your personality in the slightest. It can impact your personality, yes, but it's not a part of it. I think we've all experienced depression on some degree to know it can pass and it can be solved. Either by fixing your problems, by some sort of epiphany or even drugs; depression is something that can be averted and overcome.

Now that is good for you. Still, not everyone is that way. All I´m asking is why it is so hard to have compassion with those that struggle more.

I do not believe we have all experienced depression to a medical degree. I have felt depressed quite often, but that is still an enormous difference to the actual medical condition.
And if that is solvable only with medication, where is the difference to using drug?
Medication that lifts you out of a depression, how is that different from getting high? It is artificial and will pass over time, how is that a solution?
If I have to take pills for the rest of my life or fall back into the depression, how is my depression overcome by that?