Why are most Anime nowadays absolutely stupid.

KeithA45

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OuroborosChoked said:
KeithA45 said:
I generally used to like anime until I started noticing the repetitiveness of it all. I've concluded that every anime as 3 characters:


1) The kid with hidden ultimate power. Usually the kid has no idea he has such power and never has control of it. Sometimes it's "evil" power. Usually acts pretty wacky when not in combat for comic relief.

2) The serious, "deep" kid. Is seen brooding on a regular basis. Opens up to no one and treats everyone like crap, but everyone usually thinks he's awesome through some far-fetched reason.

3) The chick. Always hot, cries often. Her job is to chastise kid #1 and fall in love with kid #2 for no real reason. Her lines usually consist of variations of "Damnit [kid #1]!" and "No [kid #2], it's too dangerous! You'll be killed!"


And some animes combine kid #1 and kid #2.

Examples: In Naruto, Naruto is kid 1, Sasuke is kid 2, and Sakura is kid 3. In Bleach, Ichigo is a mix of kids 1 and 2 with emphasis on kid 1, and Rukia is kid 3. In Inuyasha, Inuyasha is kids 1 and 2 with emphasis on kid 2, and Kagome is kid 3.

It's not accurate every time, but it's enough for me to get sick of alot of anime's pretty quick.

I should note that I'm not a blind hater of anime and I actually LIKED some of these animes. I saw plenty of episodes of Inuyasha and Bleach (especially Inuyasha), I'm just not a fan anymore.

EDIT: In Trigun, Vash is kid 1 and 2 with emphasis on kid 1 early in the series and gradually more emphasis on kid 2 as the series continued, and Meryl is kid 3. Milly is just there for comic relief. And I LOVED Trigun.
So you've watched 4 anime series? Oh, and you've come up with a broad generalization based on your limited experience. How delightful.

Please apply your analysis to Ghost in the Shell: Stand Alone Complex. Or Full Metal Alchemist. Or Neon Genesis Evangelion. Or Le Chevalier D'Eon. Or Paprika. Or Kite. Or Serial Experiments: Lain. Or Five Centimeters Per Second. Or *ANY* comedy anime.
Relax man, that's why I said later in the post: It's not accurate every time, but it's enough for me to get sick of alot of anime's pretty quick. I didn't try to apply it to all animes because it doesn't work to all animes, just to a bunch of them. I guess I should have been less broad in the beginning of the post.
 
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anime has gotten stupid for 4 reasons...

1.has gotten popular (its no longer that secret interest you cherished so much)
2.money
3.you know damn well that the manga is better...=/
4.its become a emo trend...yes it has (especially in the UK)

and not all anime is terrible some times you'll find a unknown gem ^_^...also American dubbing stopped being good after 1999...
 

Jursa

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I see you're looking in the wrong places. Clannad, Code Geass, Vampire Knight 3 examples of great and well thought out animes that are new. Honestly I have a much bigger problem with cartoons nowadays, when shows like Megas XLR are being canceled and Atomic Betty prevails.
 

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Bright_Raven said:
OK, i put this out on every anime thread: ZEGAPAIN.
watch it people, a great psychological drama action "mecha" multiple realities slight mind screw mystery scifi...*breates* very good.
heres some fun, try to geuss which character is gay... best reveal ever...

i would like to see a near future anime about an ugly deformed white bastard and a beutyfull japaneese guy, the ugly one a deamon, the beutyfull one an angel, they become friends before realiseing that they are each others worst enemy... how will this knowlage change them? it sounds better in the total draft...
Sounds like geass to be honest.

sorry user name taken. said:
4.its become a emo trend...yes it has (especially in the UK)
Perhaps emo has become a weeaboo trend?

But what about an animes fans make it any harder to watch?
 

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Out4Blood4 said:
Beowulf DW said:
Out4Blood4 said:
Eldritch Warlord said:
Anime is now and always has been absolutely stupid, you're just old/smart/wise enough now to realize it.

Any specific example to the contrary is just fond memories of childhood.

Not to say that it's all bad, just all stupid.
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But back on topic. As Sorry User Name Taken said, anime has gotten popular. That means that the highly critical "underground" is no longer the central audience. So, studios will make anime to appeal to wider audiences, and this often means using tried and true formulas.

But to be honest, are the studios really to blame? Are our expectations too high? After all, you can't expect every anime, video game, or novel to be ground-breaking or original. Anime can be original in how well it executes an established formula, but that's pretty much it.
 

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Straitjacketeering said:
Seriously, I clicked over and caught an episode of bleach and felt like blowing my brains all over my fucking wall, my.. my beautiful wall. I remember when I would stay up all night to catch an episode of Cowboy Bebop or FLCL but now, like the music business Anime's been filled with mindless shit.

Why do things like this have to happen?
And what Anime cliche drives you up the wall to the point of blowing YOUR brains out, all over your beautiful walls.
average guy meets magical girl, then an adventure happens!(cut myself)
Guy is down on luck with women and somehow gets in a love....octuple(?) and somehow DOESN'T fuck any of them...also when the one the main character likes is either a ditz or a tom boy.
when an anime starts off with the main character already powerful and gives flash backs on their life, like, every other episode.
I don't mind these stereotypes, in fact, I like some of them. Bleach did all three, but did them well.One piece is perhaps the most generic adventure anime you can see but it is really good because of how the stereotype is executed. Also I think what puts naruto bleach, gundam and one piece above most other generic crap is the lack of fucking. They have a certain style that most anime regard as childish but I think not having the characters simply try to escape or get in bed with hot girls every episode is quite refreshing. ahh... now if you'll excuse me I am going to watch Zero no Tsumika.....
 

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Not all animes are bad. Some are good like Please Teacher, Love Hina, Chobits, Neon Genesis, umm there are more but I just can't remember them right now.
 

RadioActiveChimp

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Straitjacketeering said:
Seriously, I clicked over and caught an episode of bleach and felt like blowing my brains all over my fucking wall, my.. my beautiful wall. I remember when I would stay up all night to catch an episode of Cowboy Bebop or FLCL but now, like the music business Anime's been filled with mindless shit.

Why do things like this have to happen?
And what Anime cliche drives you up the wall to the point of blowing YOUR brains out, all over your beautiful walls.
then don't watch anime that's on tv, like Bleach. watch something good, like Code Geass, Gurren Laggon, Black Lagoon, etc. there's plenty of great stuff out there, but it's not on tv. and if it is it's an english dub and watching that is a sin.
 

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Beowulf DW said:
Out4Blood4 said:
Beowulf DW said:
Out4Blood4 said:
Eldritch Warlord said:
Anime is now and always has been absolutely stupid, you're just old/smart/wise enough now to realize it.

Any specific example to the contrary is just fond memories of childhood.

Not to say that it's all bad, just all stupid.
Be this a Troll? From hither come words of spite and rage?
If indeed this beist a troll, who durst disturb the sanctity of mine brethren's forum, with nary a speck of wisdom, shalt we not hinder thine Troll's exploits?
We shall, kinsman, we shall! Lead us as we ride forth boldly to meet our adversary!
Then, beist our will strong enough to vanquish thine foe, we shalt besiege him in a manner akin to chivalry!
Forward the buffs! To glory! To victory!

But back on topic. As Sorry User Name Taken said, anime has gotten popular. That means that the highly critical "underground" is no longer the central audience. So, studios will make anime to appeal to wider audiences, and this often means using tried and true formulas.

But to be honest, are the studios really to blame? Are our expectations too high? After all, you can't expect every anime, video game, or novel to be ground-breaking or original. Anime can be original in how well it executes an established formula, but that's pretty much it.
your right, we don't expect all anime to be a ground breaking adventurw but there is this thing we have called "standards". honestly, compare 2 romance anim like RomeoxJuliet vs Zero's Familiar and you can see the obvious difference. yes they appeal to different audiences but guess which ones they cater to? (RxJ=people with taste, ZF=horny pervs)
 

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Eiseman said:
It fills me with dread, and even shame, that the last anime shows I enjoyed were Lucky Star and Azumanga Daioh. They both belong to this genre of female high school students who do nothing but talk. I'm serious, that's all it is. It's the stupidest premise I've ever heard, yet somehow it reaches me, and it's funny to watch. At the same time though, I feel a little weird watching it.
have you watched School Rumble? similar yet with some of the best male charactors EVER!!!
 

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You younguns, I started my anime fandom on Macross, the 1979 Gundam, The Slayers and a whole bunch of other stuff I bet most of you have never even heard of (Space Runaway Ideon anyone?) so don't go talking to me about all new anime being crap, as far as I'm concerned FLCL is still pretty "new".
 

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PedroSteckecilo said:
You younguns, I started my anime fandom on Macross, the 1979 Gundam, The Slayers and a whole bunch of other stuff I bet most of you have never even heard of (Space Runaway Ideon anyone?) so don't go talking to me about all new anime being crap, as far as I'm concerned FLCL is still pretty "new".
I'll have to look up those ancient anime someday. I always did like archeology! ;p
 
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sorry user name taken. said:
4.its become a emo trend...yes it has (especially in the UK)
Perhaps emo has become a weeaboo trend?

But what about an animes fans make it any harder to watch?[/quote]

meh...i guess if you saw what i saw you'd be frustrated and pissed off to