Why are most Anime nowadays absolutely stupid.
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I pretty much agree with everything you said. Something I'd like to note however, each season the anime community kinda latches onto just a few main shows, which is fine when it's something great like geass, but if you're only watching to see what gets a buzz before you watch it, alot of truly great shows like kino, or dennou coil will pass you by.Out4Blood4 said:
That's a good list to go by.
It's ticks me off when a thread about anime degenerates into naruto discussion when we could be talking about Higurashi or noein ect.
Yeah, it's really quite amazing. Some people don't like it of course. But the idea of comparing it to a shonen like bleach is laughable.Out4Blood4 said:
I'm watching Higurashi no Naku Koro through for the first time right now. It's very interesti-OH SHIT SHE'S GOT A MEAT CLEAVER!-ng. if you know what I mean.
Anime is now and always has been absolutely stupid, you're just old/smart/wise enough now to realize it.
Any specific example to the contrary is just fond memories of childhood.
Not to say that it's all bad, just all stupid.
Any specific example to the contrary is just fond memories of childhood.
Not to say that it's all bad, just all stupid.
i loved the dragon ball series and Escaflowne seies
They were the only series' that didnt bore me after the first 20 or so episodes (bleach).
I even bought every episode of each of the series' because they were so awesome. Back then, anime was incredible.
EDIT: i do find naruto the only good anime nowadays
They were the only series' that didnt bore me after the first 20 or so episodes (bleach).
I even bought every episode of each of the series' because they were so awesome. Back then, anime was incredible.
EDIT: i do find naruto the only good anime nowadays
Oh, yes. I think my favorite part wasvivaldiscool said:
{when Rena and Keiichi were fighting on the roof}
{Mion traps Keiichi in the torture chamber, and you find a hysterical Shion in the jail cell. It was just so awesome.}
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Nice list, I have seen about 1/4 of the things there. Haruhi is just impossible to hate. Samurai Champloo didn't interest me that much, as the only Samurai anime I have liked so far was Rurouni Kenshin.vivaldiscool said:
That's a good list to go by.
It's ticks me off when a thread about anime degenerates into naruto discussion when we could be talking about Higurashi or noein ect.
Thanks again for the pic, although I am keeping my distance from 4Chan.
Oh thank you o glorious sage, for coming down from your throne and enlightening us. Natch, only I distinctly recall watching one or two animes of recent note, none of which were either fond memories or stupid...although, compared to you oh venerable sage, mine and several established reviewer's, site's & magazine's opinions are but dust in the wind against your unshakable thought processes.Eldritch Warlord said:
But then, who always agrees with the critics? Ahahahah, how delightfully riotous, well, to each his own as they say. In the end. Of course.
I think the Blade of the Immortal manga beats out the anime in so many ways.RavingPenguin said:
And while I love Naruto and Bleach, two of my favourite long runners, I realise they aren't the best anime in the world.
What does annoy me however, is when people see an episode of Bleach, despise it, and say that the entire anime industry has gone to hell. There is a plethora of great anime out there.
For example (anime this decade):
Death Note
Fullmetal Alchemist
Mushi-Shi
Beck
Noir
Wolf's Rain
And so on and so forth. The stuff that you consider to be 'crap' has always been around. Always. It's just either you're old enough now to notice it, or you just haven't been looking far enough beyond the Cowboy Bebops and the FLCLs.
I understand you don't like some of the popular shows nowadays, but for Thor's sake don't vilify an entire genre/industry, it fucks me off.
I disagree with this statement, but would point out that such a view is much preferable to the opposite one: That all anime are good, and far superior to western media. For down the path of the Weaboo lies damnation, and there is no return.Eldritch Warlord said:
I've been very, very careful with my anime watching, as I dont want to end up Wapanese like two of my friends have. So, I'm careful to only bother with stuff of decent quality, mostly in the Sci-Fi area
Fullmetal Alchemist- first one I saw, apart from Pokemon (which doesnt count in this discussion). In retrospect, not the best thing since sliced bread, but good, solid series. Didnt have any problem with the movie
Cowboy Bebop- some of the episodes were hit-and-miss, but 80% were good. A real masterpeice, as everybody seems to agree
Samurai Champloo- Cowboy bebop in Edo period japan, with hip-hop music. Good.
Death Note- Saw the first 10 or so episodes with friends. Liked the concept, but it didnt grab me enough to follow the series. From what I understand, it gets kind of crazy-complicated and jumps the shark fairly quickly. Apparently, L dies. That makes me sad. L was cool.
Code Geas- Saw one or two episodes. Read the TVtropes page. Sounds generally good, if a bit stupid in places, (probably intentionally so).
Evangelion- Full of flaws, but worth the watch. Shinji's a whiner. Found the angels particularly creepy, since several of them looked like burgess shale creatures. made the whole "alternate paths of life" thing very freaky. cant stand any other super-robot shows.
Melancholy of Haruhi...- worth it for Kyon's snarking and Haruhi's sociopathy, and the Dynamic Entry scene. I have formulated a theory, called the Kyon Insertion Theorem, that proposes that any anime that contains a Everyman/Ordinary High School Student/Whiny Spineless Git character (Shinji, for example) would be massively improved by replacing said character with Kyon. Imagine Kyon piloting an EVA or dealing with Auska, and you will see what I mean.
Harem/magical girlfriend anime in general- ragehate. saw one or two episodes of this kind of crap. Now causes me Rage whenever I encounter it.
Trigun- Good, saw first few episodes, never got around to finishing it. Probably should, at some point
Fate Stay Night- Saw a few episodes with friends. Hated it. Seemed like a MTG ripoff with harem/magical girlfriend aspects, which caused even more ragehate. Kyon insertion Theorem Applies.
Ghost in the shell- has many of the same problems as the Matrix, but still cool for the tech, the Tachikomas, and Batou. Decent, but not a patch on champloo and bebop
Elfen Lied- Borderline. Serious flaws, plus the nudity and violence (and the monsterousness of the human characters) was so over-the-top it became funny, then disgusting, then funny again. Lucy was an interesting character, and some of it got me genuinely bummed out. But, mainly I liked it because it was making fun of the magical girlfriend/harem crap that I hate so much. Its like robot chicken's carebear genocide style skits, only this one added a psychotic, damaged, hot, telekinetic mutant to chobits. Once more, the Kyon Insertion Theorem applies.
I think what ruined anime for me at a young age was all the giant robots.
Story Board 1: Oh, we can only do it with the help of this giant fighting robot.
Story Board 2: We can only have fights between giant robots, but they have surfboards.
Story Board 3: We can only have robots fighting, but they use swords instead of guns you see all the other giant robots on the field with, but they always end up losing to a sword.
Story Board 4: Giant Robots... and they... hold on a moment... they go through high school?
And in all animes there's usually one episode where the person will have to hop inside a giant robot.
Story Board 1: Oh, we can only do it with the help of this giant fighting robot.
Story Board 2: We can only have fights between giant robots, but they have surfboards.
Story Board 3: We can only have robots fighting, but they use swords instead of guns you see all the other giant robots on the field with, but they always end up losing to a sword.
Story Board 4: Giant Robots... and they... hold on a moment... they go through high school?
And in all animes there's usually one episode where the person will have to hop inside a giant robot.
Most Anime has aways sucked, at least over here in America, because the idiots who like shitty, cliche, pieces-of-shit shows, like harlem shows, have outnumbered the consumers who like good stuff, and thus, we get sent only the steryotipical shit that sells.Straitjacketeering said:
I just can't stand the cliches in anime. It's all become such generic predictable crap. I especially hate the ones where one guy is being stalked by like ten girls that each fill in a specific "anime girl personality". And to make things worse, the guy is always the same. Generic nice guy, nothing stands out about him... they even LOOK the same.
I think they just go too long now too. There used to be those magic numbers that most series abided by. Either 13 eps or 26 eps. Some would go as far as 50. Okay, fine. If the story is decent enough, then yeah, 50's fine. Any further than that is pushing it (with a few exceptions), even if the manga is still going strong. Not that THAT matters anyways, cause half of anime won't even follow the source material anyhow, not to mention the filler eps that run rampant and are just the biggest garbage you can ever slap in the fans faces.
Take Samurai Deeper Kyo for example. Awesome manga, seriously. But the anime was.... just the most off mark piece of garbage I'd ever seen. Really just an insult to everyone who's worked on the manga. Same with Rurouni Kenshin. Well, actually, not as bad. It was actually doing okay though until the third arc, and then it caught up to the manga and instead of waiting for the Jinchu arc to finish, they made up a whole shitload of uninspired stores which weren't worth watching. At least they tried to make up for it with the OVA's though, so they get points for that.
That's just my opinion though. I really prefer just reading the manga, since 99% of the time it's better than the anime. The only times I've ever enjoyed an anime more than a manga is when I've seen it before reading the manga, or when there's not even a manga, like Gundam Wing for example. That's just my personal taste though.
Still, I agree with the OP. Bleach has gone down hill. I stopped watching it when the fillers started up, but even the manga has just gone on too long, and doesn't seem to know where it's going half the time. But that's what I meant earlier in my post though. These stories not only go on for too long sometimes, but they also have too many characters to boot. They just gotta let it end already.
I think they just go too long now too. There used to be those magic numbers that most series abided by. Either 13 eps or 26 eps. Some would go as far as 50. Okay, fine. If the story is decent enough, then yeah, 50's fine. Any further than that is pushing it (with a few exceptions), even if the manga is still going strong. Not that THAT matters anyways, cause half of anime won't even follow the source material anyhow, not to mention the filler eps that run rampant and are just the biggest garbage you can ever slap in the fans faces.
Take Samurai Deeper Kyo for example. Awesome manga, seriously. But the anime was.... just the most off mark piece of garbage I'd ever seen. Really just an insult to everyone who's worked on the manga. Same with Rurouni Kenshin. Well, actually, not as bad. It was actually doing okay though until the third arc, and then it caught up to the manga and instead of waiting for the Jinchu arc to finish, they made up a whole shitload of uninspired stores which weren't worth watching. At least they tried to make up for it with the OVA's though, so they get points for that.
That's just my opinion though. I really prefer just reading the manga, since 99% of the time it's better than the anime. The only times I've ever enjoyed an anime more than a manga is when I've seen it before reading the manga, or when there's not even a manga, like Gundam Wing for example. That's just my personal taste though.
Still, I agree with the OP. Bleach has gone down hill. I stopped watching it when the fillers started up, but even the manga has just gone on too long, and doesn't seem to know where it's going half the time. But that's what I meant earlier in my post though. These stories not only go on for too long sometimes, but they also have too many characters to boot. They just gotta let it end already.
THAT MANGA FUCKING RULES!!!!Matronadena said:Scans and such I think have never been done of it for the manga...What we see on the anime is a....altered version of the first volume where as in the second volume Kasuna becomes " as close" to the main character as the series gets, and the machine gun brothers get much larger parts.sanzo said:
though I do like the anime as well I just try not to connect the two directly ( though anyone who has not seen the series.. if you have netflix, they have it in their streaming section)
another manga I would LOVE to see go to anime if done right is Saint young men...a satirical comedy where Jesus, and Buddha come to earth as mortals and are room mates in the modern age.. funny as hell.. more so with JC blowing all the rent money on samurai armour.
Sorry, I just have found it bloody funny. Kind of ironic, considering that I'm atheist.
We shall, kinsman, we shall! Lead us as we ride forth boldly to meet our adversary!Out4Blood4 said: