Why do people like dubstep?
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Personally i am not a massive dubstep fan i do like it though. The main problem is that its risen in popularity to the point that any wanker with a music program now gets a song puts in loads of random bass and calls it a remix. That isnt to say their arent some banging dubstep tunes (not quite sure why all the love for scrillex though, always thought he was kinda shit). Anyway for the most part at the end of the day its drug music. drug music for the most part needs drugs. hearing the bass drop hard after a good build up while rushing on mandy or tripping on acid is most definately awesome.
Friend of my brothers (technically fidget house but fuck it)
Bit of that chilled kinda dubstep
and if you fancy having your brains blown out by bass Rusko is usually a good call.
Anyways its not a genre for everyone. Sometimes its a genre for kids who think their cool and sometimes its for people who do lots of drugs. but their are definitely some very good artists doing some cool and original tings( note the guy above me who posted burial )
Friend of my brothers (technically fidget house but fuck it)
Bit of that chilled kinda dubstep
and if you fancy having your brains blown out by bass Rusko is usually a good call.
Anyways its not a genre for everyone. Sometimes its a genre for kids who think their cool and sometimes its for people who do lots of drugs. but their are definitely some very good artists doing some cool and original tings( note the guy above me who posted burial )
Oh deary me... Unfortunately that's another of those things you'll have to unlearn when you get to university (like unlearning that the sun is stationary, or that electrons are particles)... If you want some serious extra marks in your exam, pick up the Cambridge Guide to Jazz. It was about £8 on Amazon when I picked it up (decided I needed my own copy having left uniZombie_Fish said:
). Jazz was probably played by bands in the red light district, but so was classical; they simply played the music of the day, much like strip clubs now
In a dozen essays on it, I've never once read anyone suggest it was even slightly influencial.
yeah, I may have over reactedCrazycat690 said:
In the end I think discusson on music just pisses people off, because at least with movies, you can come to some kind of general consensus as to its overall quality, but music just seems to be VERY subjective
that said I dont know if dubstep is just a fad, but its a fad I might as well enjoy
Ah, my bad. Also makes it a good thing I'm currently studying Computer Science and not Music at Uni in that case.phazaar said:Oh deary me... Unfortunately that's another of those things you'll have to unlearn when you get to university (like unlearning that the sun is stationary, or that electrons are particles)... If you want some serious extra marks in your exam, pick up the Cambridge Guide to Jazz. It was about £8 on Amazon when I picked it up (decided I needed my own copy having left uni
Jazz was probably played by bands in the red light district, but so was classical; they simply played the music of the day, much like strip clubs now
I've tried looking for that jazz guide you've been talking about but I can't find anything (won't need it but it could just be an interesting read anyway). There's the Cambridge Companion to Jazz [http://www.amazon.com/Cambridge-Companion-Jazz-Companions-Music/dp/0521663202], is that the one you mean? Since if it's worthwhile I may buy -- not yet since it's £12 at the very cheapest and I have more than enough books already to read, but if it's worth it I may put it down on my reading list.
It's really kinda situational music. I am partial to some good, thumping dubstep at parties or nightclubs. It's good to just rock the fuck out to and dance like a retard to, but I don't really understand how some people can appreciate it sober / as background music while going about daily activities.
Oh, and if you're pinging on ecstasy, a decent bass drop is a fucking religious experience.
Oh, and if you're pinging on ecstasy, a decent bass drop is a fucking religious experience.
Because there's so much more energy going into it, more than any other form of electronic music, you feel the force of the bass through your whole body, when Skrillex drops the bass YOU FEEL IT, and it's a feeling like nothing else out there. There are dubstep songs I simply can not listen to without getting up and dancing. I understand you not liking it at first, NO ONE likes it the first time they hear it, the first time I heard it I didn't like it either, but it grew on me. Maybe it's not what your into, and if that's the case, than to each his own.
I don't like Dubstep because i find it too fast and cacophonic, instead i do like Drum N Bass, French Touch and Synthpop.
To figure out why people like Dubstep, you have to consider why people like music at all.
Music is all about timing, and allows the listener to categorize time in real time. It basically gives people a tangible way to perceive time, which when played to a large crowd gets everyone's brains working in a similar fashion. Humans, being social creatures find this pleasurable, to be in tune with such a large group.
The second reason people enjoy music is because it is predictable, music starts with a base rhythm, and gives you enough time to learn the pattern before introducing a new pattern over top, and so on and so forth. Slowly the patterns get more complex. People enjoy this because their brains automatically attempt to predict the progression, and actually release reward chemicals when the prediction is correct. It quite literally produces a high. The more complex the pattern the more complete the high. Some frequencies even stimulate the areas of the brain that perform this function, allowing the listener to "sync" themselves with the music. Combining this with point one makes good music a highly pleasurable and spiritual experience.
This is why bad music, or music that does not appeal to someone's tastes can actually generate feelings of frustration and hostility, because the brain finds itself unable to compute the info, or simply overwhelmed with stimuli and gets frustrated.
Familiarity also plays a factor, for some reason the more a person knows about the music, the more they enjoy it, which is why some pop artists have such a huge fanbase in spite of their scandals, because the more the audience thinks they know about the artist the more likely they are to enjoy it, though this is a double edged sword because people who find their morals in conflict with the artists are more likely to avoid their music entirely.
With all that in mind, I can conclude that people(myself included), enjoy dubstep because it is designed to appeal on the structural level. The timing while often bizarre is predictable, but quickly becomes more complex, and generates frequencies which actually affect brain function. The noise is often new and strange and gives a sense of discovery every time the music is heard. Additionally familiarity comes into play because anything(and I mean anything) can be dubstepped, video-game soundtracks, movie soundtracks, quotes, voices, anything, thus allowing it to appeal to a wide range of listeners.
The biggest problem is that dubstep can be too predictable, and the noise can overwhelm the listener and exhaust their mind to the point of frustration.
Music is all about timing, and allows the listener to categorize time in real time. It basically gives people a tangible way to perceive time, which when played to a large crowd gets everyone's brains working in a similar fashion. Humans, being social creatures find this pleasurable, to be in tune with such a large group.
The second reason people enjoy music is because it is predictable, music starts with a base rhythm, and gives you enough time to learn the pattern before introducing a new pattern over top, and so on and so forth. Slowly the patterns get more complex. People enjoy this because their brains automatically attempt to predict the progression, and actually release reward chemicals when the prediction is correct. It quite literally produces a high. The more complex the pattern the more complete the high. Some frequencies even stimulate the areas of the brain that perform this function, allowing the listener to "sync" themselves with the music. Combining this with point one makes good music a highly pleasurable and spiritual experience.
This is why bad music, or music that does not appeal to someone's tastes can actually generate feelings of frustration and hostility, because the brain finds itself unable to compute the info, or simply overwhelmed with stimuli and gets frustrated.
Familiarity also plays a factor, for some reason the more a person knows about the music, the more they enjoy it, which is why some pop artists have such a huge fanbase in spite of their scandals, because the more the audience thinks they know about the artist the more likely they are to enjoy it, though this is a double edged sword because people who find their morals in conflict with the artists are more likely to avoid their music entirely.
With all that in mind, I can conclude that people(myself included), enjoy dubstep because it is designed to appeal on the structural level. The timing while often bizarre is predictable, but quickly becomes more complex, and generates frequencies which actually affect brain function. The noise is often new and strange and gives a sense of discovery every time the music is heard. Additionally familiarity comes into play because anything(and I mean anything) can be dubstepped, video-game soundtracks, movie soundtracks, quotes, voices, anything, thus allowing it to appeal to a wide range of listeners.
The biggest problem is that dubstep can be too predictable, and the noise can overwhelm the listener and exhaust their mind to the point of frustration.
InterAirplay said:
Given that your criteria was the following---v
Then, no I don't think I "fit the criteria", I wonder what post you were actually reading, and think you need to tune your comprehension skills. The only thing I said, even REMOTELY near the area of your rant, was to say I thought Skrillex mostly sounded like a car crusher fucking a dinosaur (despite enjoying a couple of his tracks, all opinion), and that there's a lot of non-talent making throwaway basslines with little effort.InterAirplay said:
I never discounted the genre, I certainly never discounted its fans (I am one, dammit), am actively engaged in demonstrating TASTE for said genre, and never once tried to prove a damn thing until you attacked me alongside your rather exhaustive quote-list of off-the-cuff dismissals and genre hatred, dragging me into this semi-tangential argument that I am now intent on arguing my way out of. For whatever reason.
Thanks for completely ignoring (twice now) the parts where I state what I think is good about the music, what I like in dubstep, and what kinds of sounds in it I (yes, personally, it's subjective) think have a future in music.
Next time, check your own damn criteria.
Yes, you kept mentioning subjectivity, which is bullshit when I say something's objectively badly written. People are gonna like it anyway, I realize, but that doesn't make it good. People love Twilight, but that's still a steaming pile of shit.InterAirplay said:
Seriously? Personally when I'm listening to Dubstep I feel pure energy. Not Like my power levels are going over 9,000 or anything, but I feel the music in its simplest form. It's primal and the way the bass pulses through my chest makes me feel the music, literally.
I live in America, so I don't know what the reception is like around the world, but it seems to be gaining steam here in the South. I listen to all kinds of music. Country, Classical, Rap, Metal, Reggae, Ska, Jazz, I even enjoy Enya and Celtic women if the mood is right.
I think it has a time and place. Like everyone says, Clubs, getting high, or just doing crazy shit. I wouldn't play it at home while trying to read.
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I live in America, so I don't know what the reception is like around the world, but it seems to be gaining steam here in the South. I listen to all kinds of music. Country, Classical, Rap, Metal, Reggae, Ska, Jazz, I even enjoy Enya and Celtic women if the mood is right.
I think it has a time and place. Like everyone says, Clubs, getting high, or just doing crazy shit. I wouldn't play it at home while trying to read.
WOMP WOMP WOMP
