why do people say dating your teacher is wrong? we got married last year and its fantastique

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Zeterai

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People have weird views when it comes to matchmaking ages. Generational gaps are pretty clearly delineated when it comes to pairing with other people - he's literally more than twice your age and easily old enough to be your father. So I can sort of see that aspect, though.. well, to be fair, I'm the sort of person who views age as less important than compatibility to put it mildly. But y'know what? Screw those people. Age is a number, not a definitive aspect of one's mentality.

As for the teacher aspect, well.. that's where it becomes more sharply inappropriate. Most businesses have firm rules for their employees that prevent those sorts of close relationships coming into being between people of different hierarchical positions, say a manager and an office drone. The simple reasoning lays in three words - conflict of interest. If a manager has to decide to lay off (and in this we mean fire, sack, terminate, or end one's employment, not.. whatever else you could misconstrue "lay off" as, you filthy minded degenerate. The same goes for sack, for that matter.) an employee, do they choose their significant other or someone they don't know all too well? You see it in the military as well, and in fact in every kind of place or situation where one individual has direct power over another - fraternizing with those under your command is difficult to handle at best because you can't really keep neutral.

In this very specific instance, who's to say that the guy never ended up marking your assignments a little higher? Or treating you with a little more attention than other students? Did he possibly neglect some poor kid who absolutely needed help in a subject because he was assisting you at the time? I don't mean this as an accusation, merely the simple fact that it's a possibility is the problem.

What it all comes down to as of now, though, is if you're both happy. If you are? Then once more, screw what other people think. They're in no position to judge, nor are you in a position to be judged if you're no longer his student. Accept that some people are going to give you strange looks, and some are going to vocally disapprove - just like anything that falls outside of normal socially constructed boundaries. And hell, if naught else works, take to carrying around a Bible, that thing is loaded with significantly overaged men married to exceptionally underaged girls.




I really hesitate to condemn you to the purgatory that is TvTropes, but they have an article on the subject and its related themes.. so, try not to get too lost in the virtual woods, hm? http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/TeacherStudentRomance

For that matter, take care not to get lost in the woods in an even more metaphorical sense as well; you're moving a bit quick for someone so young, and risking quite a phenomenal amount. Take it from someone who's dealt with love frequently enough to understand that it's a very possibly fleeting thing if you're too rushed going into it. Keep your head relatively clear, and try not to let yourself get put into a situation that you don't want to be in - if you're completely dependent on this man, what will happen in twenty years when he spies another pretty teenager? It's a bit of a cliche I suppose, but things don't stay wondrous forever unless you get phenomenally lucky, and have a significant amount of effort put in on both sides.
 

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I think it's alright as long as the age-gap isn't crazy huge. Teachers can be pretty young these days.

So I'll just leave this here.

 

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polly95 said:
Are you asking before or after we get into the region specific ethical and legal issues?

There are a variety of times I think it is ok but that has to do with college age people and their professors mostly. However, if you want my honest opinion there is some seriously fishy shit going down here. Just... I've been around enough to know when to trust my gut, and doing so has saved my life a couple of times. My gut is telling me there is something off about this whole thing. Don't take this the wrong way but you probably should have listened to your parents and acquired a little bit of world weariness before you committed to something like this. If he really loved you he would have waited a year or two (or longer) and just dated you.

Good luck, best of wishes, and I hope my gut is wrong.
 

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SwagLordYoloson said:
Is OP legit?

No offence but my suspension of disbelief went away with OP's grammar, 19 you say?

I am having a hard time believing this is not a ruse my fellow posters.
Good call, I completely called bullshit on this but who knows? Curious to see how far it goes.
I'm still not entirely sure...

I mean on one hand it sounds like a situation straight out of a Fifty Shades of Grey type book.

On the other hand it sounds like a situation straight out of a Fifty Shades of Grey type book.

Guys exist that believe porn is an accurate representation of sex and relationships. No reason girls wouldn't exist that believe likewise and act on that.
 

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Hagi said:
Guys exist that believe porn is an accurate representation of sex and relationships. No reason girls wouldn't exist that believe likewise and act on that.
Plenty of women get labiaplasties because they feel abnormal for not looking like porn stars, so yeah.
 

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And yet her posts come off as so sincere, either our legs are being pulled hard here or a very sad case waiting to happen.

Agggghh



Oh fine, I'll give you the benefit of the doubt here for only this instance, but I will be harsh.

This relationship you have is messed up, any older man, especially one who would consider himself a worthwhile human being, would not date let alone marry a kid. The only reason a man of that age would go for a girl like you is because he's either too pathetic to hold a normal relationship with a good woman or only wants sex with, ugh I hate saying this, fresh meat. Either way this guy screams creepy.

You are clearly in the mindset where you believe everyone else is wrong and you guys are right, drop that mindset and take an objective look at things, and do it freaking fast because you are setting yourself up for a ruined life. You are young and full of energy, and instead of going out there and experiencing the world without any worries, you are shackled up with some dude who's old enough to be your father, doesn't that even remotely bother you?

Good luck, seriously.
 

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Looking over your replies I feel like someone needs to say this: It's not that he's your ex-teacher that makes it wrong, it's how he's treating you.

Seriously? Feeling you up in front of your parents when he knows they disapprove? Lifting your skirt so his friends can look (saw in your other thread)? He seems to get a kick out of doing things that makes him feel like saying "look what I can do to my young, sexy wife". Based on what you have told us, he is not treating you with much respect. It doesn't matter if he would've been a classmate of the same age or twice his age or anything. A husband does not treat his wife like a trophy for kicks.

You'd do well to think this over long and hard. If he lets his friends peek at your underwear without asking you it's not a streach to say that soon he might be bold enough to let them look even further without asking you. I don't know either of you, but I do know all the marriages I know of that lasted where built on respect, companionship and laughter. Not naughty behaviour in front of parents and strangers.
 

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SwagLordYoloson said:
Is OP legit?

No offence but my suspension of disbelief went away with OP's grammar, 19 you say?

I am having a hard time believing this is not a ruse my fellow posters.
Agreed. This whole thing comes across as very by-the-numbers and like it's fishing for a particular reaction. Also the fact that the OP stopped posting once people started questioning her validity is a bit of a red flag...

However, on the off-chance that this is legit:

Other people have already covered the (current) teacher/student thing, it's all about abuse of their position of power and duty of care. Same with doctors and their patients, even if they were both in their fifties it wouldn't be allowed and could get the doctor into some serious trouble. Once they're no longer your teacher, and especially once you've left school there's no real issue on those grounds, although depending on the people involved the authority thing could still be a problem. A couple of students at my school went on to date their teachers, but in both cases the students were over 18 and the teachers were in their early to mid twenties.

In your case though... Oh honey, you sound so young and naive :( I mean, I'm only three years older than you and you still come across that way to me. If half of what you say is true, you're in for one hell of a bumpy ride with a sad ending. Good luck.
 

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Wow, didn't know that so many people on this forum are that gullible. Do you all seriously believe this, between the exorbitantly bad grammar and the story itself? There's just no way...
 

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clippen05 said:
Wow, didn't know that so many people on this forum are that gullible. Do you all seriously believe this, between the exorbitantly bad grammar and the story itself? There's just no way...
Eh, a similar thing happened with a girl at my old high school.

The guy taught me maths in year 8, and ended up on the worst kind of tabloid "news", so I can sorta say I know a celebrity.
 

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thaluikhain said:
clippen05 said:
Wow, didn't know that so many people on this forum are that gullible. Do you all seriously believe this, between the exorbitantly bad grammar and the story itself? There's just no way...
Eh, a similar thing happened with a girl at my old high school.

The guy taught me maths in year 8, and ended up on the worst kind of tabloid "news", so I can sorta say I know a celebrity.
Well, I should clarify my position. The act of a former student marrying a teacher. Uncommon, but it happens every now and then I suppose. However, that 'student' talking about how her husband pulls up her skirt to 'show off' to his friends immediately makes me read 'bullshit;' let alone the fact that 'she' posts that terrible anecdote completely nonchalantly, treating all of her posts like some sort of joke. The exorbitantly bad grammar only adds to the how believable this story is. C'mon, you can't seriously believe this?
 

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clippen05 said:
Well, I should clarify my position. The act of a former student marrying a teacher. Uncommon, but it happens every now and then I suppose. However, that 'student' talking about how her husband pulls up her skirt to 'show off' to his friends immediately makes me read 'bullshit;' let alone the fact that 'she' posts that terrible anecdote completely nonchalantly, treating all of her posts like some sort of joke. The exorbitantly bad grammar only adds to the how believable this story is. C'mon, you can't seriously believe this?
Eh, I've known people in worse relationships. Someone (oddly enough, she'd been a friend of the girl that married the teacher) told me, quite matter of factly, that she'd broken up with her BF, because the relationship just wasn't worth it, not with all the abuse.

The only two women I know of off the top of my head that married straight out of high school married abusive men that they stayed with for long times, kept finding reasons to stay, including worrying that their abuser would be left alone if they did. Abusive relationships don't have to work rationally, that's one of the main problems.
 

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thaluikhain said:
clippen05 said:
Well, I should clarify my position. The act of a former student marrying a teacher. Uncommon, but it happens every now and then I suppose. However, that 'student' talking about how her husband pulls up her skirt to 'show off' to his friends immediately makes me read 'bullshit;' let alone the fact that 'she' posts that terrible anecdote completely nonchalantly, treating all of her posts like some sort of joke. The exorbitantly bad grammar only adds to the how believable this story is. C'mon, you can't seriously believe this?
Eh, I've known people in worse relationships. Someone (oddly enough, she'd been a friend of the girl that married the teacher) told me, quite matter of factly, that she'd broken up with her BF, because the relationship just wasn't worth it, not with all the abuse.

The only two women I know of off the top of my head that married straight out of high school married abusive men that they stayed with for long times, kept finding reasons to stay, including worrying that their abuser would be left alone if they did. Abusive relationships don't have to work rationally, that's one of the main problems.
I guess I just don't know as much about dating as I thought, although as someone forever alone what really did I know in the first place... Are their really that many abusers out there and people who will put up with them? That's pretty disgusting to think about.
 

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Wow, didn't know that so many people on this forum are that gullible. Do you all seriously believe this, between the exorbitantly bad grammar and the story itself? There's just no way...
I deliberately didn't post in this thread (or the other topic that this user made) because no matter how much this looks like forum bait, no matter how much my spider sense was tingling, you never know for sure whether it is someone lying for attention, or just a very naive person in a really bad situation.

Cases exactly like the OPs have happened before, and they will again. People rush into relationships, and even marriages with people who are very unsuitable and possibly dangerous, and it is only after the deeds have been done that the victim is able to realise they have been used, and perhaps by then it is too late.

It is most likely that this user is just spinning a fantastic yarn and laughing at all the controversy, but there is a very real chance that this post could be legitimate, and in that case we should all be very careful how we approach giving advice/abuse to an unknown poster a whole world away that we do not know any personal details about except the very brief description provided, because at the other end of every single forum post is a human being, that will be affected by everything we say to them.

I've seen situations not that dissimilar to the OPs in my personal life. It's not to much of a stretch to imagine that someone in such a situation where their friends and parents don't seem to listen would seek a truly annonymous way of getting opinions and advice.

I don't believe this story, but I can't disprove it either, and therefore we all need to be very careful about what we say to what could very well be a vulnerable person crying for help.
 

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[small]I can't help but feel that this post isn't genuine.[/small]

However, usually it's because he was in a position of authority over you, and should have known better than to get involved with someone when they were a child. Since I doubt the relationship started the day you turned eighteen, since it never does. In situations involving teachers and students, the 'relationships' tend to start very early and only come to light when that person is technically a legal adult. The age gap also sets people off, since it's kind of like marrying your dad.
 

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clippen05 said:
Wow, didn't know that so many people on this forum are that gullible. Do you all seriously believe this, between the exorbitantly bad grammar and the story itself? There's just no way...
I didn't believe any of it. I simply replied to play along and see what would happen. The responses here were interesting. And I figure that's what OP was looking for. A reaction. As far as trolling attempts go, this one was incredibly tame.
 

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Dead Century said:
clippen05 said:
Wow, didn't know that so many people on this forum are that gullible. Do you all seriously believe this, between the exorbitantly bad grammar and the story itself? There's just no way...
I didn't believe any of it. I simply replied to play along and see what would happen. The responses here were interesting. And I figure that's what OP was looking for. A reaction. As far as trolling attempts go, this one was incredibly tame.
That's pretty much why I'm willing to treat this as genuine. It's too tame. It's not too far fetched either. Of course, if it turns out to be trolling I'll be happy, but if it really is true... well, I want to help. It's not enough to make me have any reaction beyond "meh" if it's fake.
 

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polly95 said:
just seems wrong how people say you shouldn't date your teacher.
my teacher met me when i was 16 and then we married when i was 18 (but i finished high school).
my parent said its wrong and even my friends said :0
A lot of people will say that it's the age difference, but that's just bullshit. For most of human history it's been normal for men to be much older then the women they marry. The whole same age group thing is pretty new even tho most of the people giving you the "age difference" reason don't know that.

The biggest problem with dating your teacher is this. Nowadays a lot of people date at least 3 or 4 persons before they get married (and i am talking about the conservative ones here). With that in mind, there is a pretty good chance that someone you date when you are 16 or 18 or 20 will not be the one you marry. And when the breakup happens, you don't want them to still have some kind of power over you. The "don't shit where you eat" principle.
 

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If the relationship started when he was still your teacher then that should be cause for his termination and potentially should make him not be allowed to teach again. Any professional where you are dealing with vulnerable people (children, the mentally ill/handicapped etc.) should have the same protections and standards of professionalism. As far as I know this could be a perfectly healthy relationship but I highly doubt it.

Anecdotally, at the age of 17 my aunt got pregnant by and then married a man in his late thirties (I'm in the UK where the legal age is 16 btw) and she has only recently divorced him. She only recently realised how little they had in common and how miserable and lonely she has felt all these years. For myself I always hated visiting her because her family always had an odd unsettling atmosphere about them.

She changed a lot as she grew up and he didn't. She had no real understanding of what a stable relationship should be like (how could she?) and defaulted to an accepting permissiveness. She felt guilty about wanting to leave him (after all it was her who had changed, so she felt that it was her fault the relationship wasn't working as well as it could) and stuck with it for way way too long. Now she'd finally out of it and it's the first time I've ever seen her happy.

I don't like the idea of anyone getting married at 18 let alone to someone two and half times their age and let alone again the fact that he was in an official position of care over you. There's so much of the world you've yet to experience. You will grow up over the years and decades but he won't, there's no opportunity for you both to grow and adapt together. You'll be restricted by him and may not realize until it's too late to get the time back. You are an adult at 19 but you're not the same kind of adult as you will be at the age of 44, can you imagine your mum wanting to marry one of the boys in your class?

I'm 23 and I'd hesitate in dating a teenager. I've grown up a lot in 4 years (although my 19 year old self would probably disagree) just think about how much you'll change in 25 years when you're his age and he's retired.
 

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My common sense is tingling.
(nope, sorry, I'm not Deadpool)
I can't fight this feeling that 5y from now there will be divorce.
I don't know who or why will initiate it, but there will be one.