Why does everyone always run away!?

[red the fister]

ignorant people will almost always try to use attack and intimidation to force their "ideas" down out Craws. and when that fails, they run and try to pretend they are the rational ones.

 

[Terramax]

Sometimes people stop responding simply because they know the arguement is going out of hand, they cannot convert their opinions onto you, or they've simply been exhausted by the arguement and no longer have the energy to continue.

I started a debate on this forum a few days off and have slowly been writing up another post, but there's so much to write/ people to respond to with their comments, that it's taking an age to write something that's to the point and answers all the question/ represents my viewpoint.

 

[[Cold-Shoulder]]

The only idea I can think of why she didn't defended her opinion is that she was an idiot or she wasn't bothered to hear other people opinions on the movie.
May I ask what is rotten tomatoes?

 

[vampirekid.13]

So, today I registered on Rotten Tomatoes (finally) since I saw a very interesting User Review. It was about 500 characters long, if that, and written by what I thought was a 20 year old woman. The review was about G.I. Joe. After about 5 comments or so about how she is blatantly ignoring what happened in the movie, she says she is "done with me" and blocks me.

Why is it that people get so scared when someone confronts them about their opinion? Do they find no need to defend it? Or is it because they don't even know what the hell they're talking about in the first place? Needless to say, she though G.I. Joe was an awful movie, but that Transformers was good. It really boggles the mind.

I find myself being drawn back here more and more often because people will actually, get this, discuss topics/issues. Has this ever happened to anyone else? Whether in Real life or right here on the forums?

you're arguing an opinion with another opinion. opinions cant be wrong. there is nothing to argue O_O

 

[DoctorWhat]

The only idea I can think of why she didn't defended her opinion is that she was an idiot or she wasn't bothered to hear other people opinions on the movie.
May I ask what is rotten tomatoes?

rottentomatoes.com, as I understand it, is a website where they take film reviews from many different sources; i.e. newspapers, magazines, online reviews, etc. and take the average from the ratings that different people have given the movie. This let's you see what people think about a film without it being tainted by bias.

e.g. Harry Potter and the Half-Blood Prince has an average rating of 86%, so it is considered "Fresh" (good). G-Force on the other hand, has a rating of 25%, so it is considered "Rotten"

 

[Nmil-ek]

stop inulting me. i've already addmited what i said was out of line, but i've but i'm sick of you self rightous pricks thinking you can lord it over me cus of a couple of stupid commentts

Right point, hes admitted hes wrong leave him bloody be. Wrong point you did it again eye for an eye only works on an equal platform privatley owned moderated forums are not an equal platform thats why there are things like terms of service and user agreements.

 

[Agema]

Some people just hated something and want to say how much they hated it. They don't want to discuss the matter, they're just blowing off steam, and if they're annoyed enough aren't going to respond well enough to anyone telling them otherwise, no matter how politely.

Some people think that you can "win" internet debates. The reality is that no-one is giving out marks or awards, and with only few exceptions you're not going to change anyone's mind no matter what facts and logic you add. When people leave internet debates, it's often not "running away" but sensibly realising the utter pointlessness of it and ending it before it explodes in frustration and/or flames.

Really, the greatest art in internet debating is knowing when it's not worth replying to someone or bothering to say anything in the first place.

 

[Hikikomori Ookami]

I'm guessing they didn't even watch the movie. People who don't defend their opinion don't usually have a reason behind it. They just follow it blindly and know nothing about it.

Its actually kinda humorous. Her's was(still is at the moment) the Member Review of the Day, the qualifications for being that must be quite daunting *sarcasm*. She mostly complained about how a character pulled out Dubble Bubble Gum and when a character logged onto a computer, Norton Anti-Virus popped up for 0.5 of a second. She said it was "blatant advertising".

I just wish people thought for themselves sometimes. Getting into debates (that don't devolve into flaming eachother) are very entertaining.

What? Advertising? In a movie? That's never ever happened before!

OT: Yes, it's happened before in person. I try keeping debates from escalating most of the time, but this once me and a friend were hanging out at a park and a guy came up to us and started talking about the bible. Usually we don't mind this because we're both open minded and willing to discuss views, but when my friend told this guy that he's a Pagan (my friend not the guy), the guy called him a Muslim extremist. At that point things got a little less friendly...

 

[Puzzles]

I find myself being drawn back here more and more often because people will actually, get this, discuss topics/issues. Has this ever happened to anyone else? Whether in Real life or right here on the forums?

Yeah a week or two back I started disagreeing with some guys opinion in the thread about the nature of good and evil. He said "I'm done with you" also, exactly those words. It's kind of weak, atleast say "point well made, you are right/more correct/I'm wrong" instead of just saying it in such a rude way.

 

[grimsprice]

I'm guessing they didn't even watch the movie. People who don't defend their opinion don't usually have a reason behind it. They just follow it blindly and know nothing about it.

the reason stem's from here maybe. I defended myself and i got put on probation.

No you go it for calling someone an "assnugget".

hahahahahaha. yeah, defense and counterattack are two completely different things. i defend myself with sarcasm and cynicism; and it seems to work out quite well.

i think the escapist community is so great in comparison because most sites out there are strictly for hero worshiping the site content providers. we have a small yahtzee fanboy group but we keep them under control... most of the other sites i've been two there are three types of comments... the.... ''man they are so cool!!!'' which gets mass praise on the mod system... and ''i disagree but i can see where they are coming from''... which gets neg-moded so fast it shits itself from ban fear. and of course... ''they are stupiz!!!''... which just gets a ban.

 

[Swaki]

OT: Why do people even care about reviews? If you like something, you don't have to worry what other people think of it. It really only matters if you enjoyed it. I tell myself this all the time, but I can't do it.

i read reviews all the time, i don't have that many free nights or money so when i finally get to go out i like to hear about the movie from people that isn't the movie company so i dont repeat the "what happens in vegas" incident, i do the same whit video games, all in all i find it reassuring to know what im buying, never been a big fan of taking whats behind curtain number 3.

OT : many people flee from any type of confrontation, i really enjoy debating in class (im majoring in politic) and even if i told them that im against females right to vote and that abortions should be mandatory most of my classmates would simply lay down and agree whit me.

 

[Mr.Pandah]

So, today I registered on Rotten Tomatoes (finally) since I saw a very interesting User Review. It was about 500 characters long, if that, and written by what I thought was a 20 year old woman. The review was about G.I. Joe. After about 5 comments or so about how she is blatantly ignoring what happened in the movie, she says she is "done with me" and blocks me.

Why is it that people get so scared when someone confronts them about their opinion? Do they find no need to defend it? Or is it because they don't even know what the hell they're talking about in the first place? Needless to say, she though G.I. Joe was an awful movie, but that Transformers was good. It really boggles the mind.

I find myself being drawn back here more and more often because people will actually, get this, discuss topics/issues. Has this ever happened to anyone else? Whether in Real life or right here on the forums?

you're arguing an opinion with another opinion. opinions cant be wrong. there is nothing to argue O_O

I really hope you were joking with that comment, because a misinformed opinion can indeed be wrong. There is some false belief that an opinion can't be wrong, but don't worry, thats what I'm here for!

 

[yosophat]

OH and haven't you seen the SNL Weekend Update skit about the "Internet girl". Girls are already less likely to succeed due to their skills in math and science why is a 20 year old woman reviewing a movie shouldn't she have a blog about cooking.

Please... Please tell me you're kidding.

I am... kind of... kidding but you're going to have to be more specific about which part.

 

[Swaki]

OT: Why do people even care about reviews? If you like something, you don't have to worry what other people think of it. It really only matters if you enjoyed it. I tell myself this all the time, but I can't do it.

i read reviews all the time, i don't have that many free nights or money so when i finally get to go out i like to hear about the movie from people that isn't the movie company so i dont repeat the "what happens in vegas" incident, i do the same whit video games, all in all i find it reassuring to know what im buying, never been a big fan of taking whats behind curtain number 3.

You could rent the game first. Unless you are that broke that you can't pay 5-8 dollars. The reason I don't like reviews, people seem to be too biased, or bring outside factors into it [example: "The movie could of been better if I didn't have a screaming, sniveling brat behind me whining the whole time"] But, there are a few that aren't like that. But, you have to realize, reviews are opinions, and opinions are completely different for everyone else.

im a pc gamer and for good reasons you cant rent those, also renting games in Denmark cost more like 15-20 dollars.
and i do realize that reviews are opinions but since i read reviews allot i know several critics whom i usually share opinions whit (maybe i should make myself clear, i read reviews in newspapers and magazines not on awesomemovieboy79's blog).

 

[Mr.Pandah]

Assorted posts

If you have a problem with your moderation, you can contact the appropriate people to discuss it politely. I think there's a link to the comment form in the PM you get. I'm not sure, however, as it's been a while since I was put on probation (I'm about due for another, I wonder if I can do it to myself? An interesting experiment, to be sure). Anyway, the point is that this thread is not the place to discuss your probation, you're clogging it up and preventing legitimate discussion.

On topic, people don't run away so much as they try to use distance as a defence. It's just something we do, to maintain the integrity of our opinions and beliefs. It's what happens when people become impartial, and why we look down on bias wherever it appears. People are people, especially when they aren't.

Hmm...but don't you think they're essentially abandoning said opinions and beliefs if they just drop everything and leave? Or in their mind are they still winning?

 

[Cowabungaa]

A lot of people just don't want to hear that they're wrong, or even want to consider that their opinion is wrong. It's called 'cognitive dissonance' and this woman is a shining example of it.

 

[mikecoulter]

number one, he attacked me first.
number two.,no, but thanks for the advice anyway.

Do two wrongs make a right?

I think maybe the woman was annoyed or felt pressed by your countering opinion. Either way, the internet is a place for discussion, not just acceptance. She possibly wasn't expecting someone to counter her point of view. She could also have confrontation issues. I wouldn't worry though. Usually, if someone suggests an alternate view on something I'm discussing I'll most definitely further the discussion with them, it promotes evolution of theory and opinion.. But if they get rude/abusive... I tend to just show them up for their own idiocies.

 

[cleverlymadeup]

Its actually kinda humorous. Her's was(still is at the moment) the Member Review of the Day, the qualifications for being that must be quite daunting *sarcasm*. She mostly complained about how a character pulled out Dubble Bubble Gum and when a character logged onto a computer, Norton Anti-Virus popped up for 0.5 of a second. She said it was "blatant advertising".

it's funny how she doesn't notice blatant advertising in every single movie that's not fantasy. i think Wayne's World did it best with their whole gag on product placement. the funnier part is the Double Bubble was something that was chewed by Breaker all thru the cartoon and such, so it was a nice nod to that.

as for the topic on hand, people will run away when they are confronted with having to admit they are wrong or get proven they are wrong. it's a basic human thing to run away when confronted. it's also a lot easier to do on the internet and fairly common as well

 

[FluffX]

OH and haven't you seen the SNL Weekend Update skit about the "Internet girl". Girls are already less likely to succeed due to their skills in math and science why is a 20 year old woman reviewing a movie shouldn't she have a blog about cooking.

Please... Please tell me you're kidding.

I am... kind of... kidding but you're going to have to be more specific about which part.

The last sentence.

 

[yosophat]

OH and haven't you seen the SNL Weekend Update skit about the "Internet girl". Girls are already less likely to succeed due to their skills in math and science why is a 20 year old woman reviewing a movie shouldn't she have a blog about cooking.

Please... Please tell me you're kidding.

I am... kind of... kidding but you're going to have to be more specific about which part.

The last sentence.

Yeah the cooking part is totally a joke, the math and science part not so much; it's part of an U.S. public service commercial that encourages parents to instill a desire for Math and Science so no such insanity will come out of "Internet girls".