Why Homosexuality Should be Banned

[ScourgeOfHell]

You know, ive seen a lot of threads about homosexuality in these forums, and most if not all the posts defend it with an almost religious fervor. What is it with you people and gay rights, how can anyone defend that. Im sorry for being a "troll" or whatever, but seriously ppl.

 

[ryanxm]

hah that was pretty funny

i thought this was just gonna be you trolling or something when i read the title

 

[Baradiel]

Not strictly related, but I love Tim Minchin, and this came to mind, so I thought I'd share it:

I love Tim. Not only is he very talented on the piano, he can write a good joke.

He is a musical and comedic genius! I got hold of the scores for alot of his songs, and I can barely play the chords, nevermind that he somehow manages to improvise most of his tunes, using only the base chords for a source, with them changing every time. That, and the fact he has brilliant points which he conveys perfectly, and with humour.

And.... stop typing. Seriously, I could write pages in praise of Tim. HE IS A GOD.

I picked up a copy of his show called ummm... I think it was a tour called Are You Ready for This? Really funny stuff. The beat poem 'Storm' is one of my favs, along with I Can have a Dark Side Too. Oh! And his I Love Jesus song. Homosexual comedy has never been so well played on a piano XD

I have Ready for This? is what I've got. I have to agree. I love all his songs, and The Good Book sums up my feelings on, well, the 'good' book pretty well.

 

[Snowy Rainbow]

Not strictly related, but I love Tim Minchin, and this came to mind, so I thought I'd share it:

I love Tim. Not only is he very talented on the piano, he can write a good joke.

He is a musical and comedic genius! I got hold of the scores for alot of his songs, and I can barely play the chords, nevermind that he somehow manages to improvise most of his tunes, using only the base chords for a source, with them changing every time. That, and the fact he has brilliant points which he conveys perfectly, and with humour.

And.... stop typing. Seriously, I could write pages in praise of Tim. HE IS A GOD.

I picked up a copy of his show called ummm... I think it was a tour called Are You Ready for This? Really funny stuff. The beat poem 'Storm' is one of my favs, along with I Can have a Dark Side Too. Oh! And his I Love Jesus song. Homosexual comedy has never been so well played on a piano XD

I have Ready for This? is what I've got. I have to agree. I love all his songs, and The Good Book sums up my feelings on, well, the 'good' book pretty well.

'Cause it's a book and it's good and it's a good book!

Now I wanna go stick that DVD on...

 

[Snowy Rainbow]

I'll admit, I don't support gay marriage on principle, but fuck if I care if they get married. It IS a free country, it IS NOT against anything in the Constitution, and it doesn't effect me personally.

It's a bumer you don't support gay marriage, but it's cool you have the respect to stand back and let them live their lives.

 

[Baradiel]

Not strictly related, but I love Tim Minchin, and this came to mind, so I thought I'd share it:

I love Tim. Not only is he very talented on the piano, he can write a good joke.

He is a musical and comedic genius! I got hold of the scores for alot of his songs, and I can barely play the chords, nevermind that he somehow manages to improvise most of his tunes, using only the base chords for a source, with them changing every time. That, and the fact he has brilliant points which he conveys perfectly, and with humour.

And.... stop typing. Seriously, I could write pages in praise of Tim. HE IS A GOD.

I picked up a copy of his show called ummm... I think it was a tour called Are You Ready for This? Really funny stuff. The beat poem 'Storm' is one of my favs, along with I Can have a Dark Side Too. Oh! And his I Love Jesus song. Homosexual comedy has never been so well played on a piano XD

I have Ready for This? is what I've got. I have to agree. I love all his songs, and The Good Book sums up my feelings on, well, the 'good' book pretty well.

'Cause it's a book and it's good and it's a good book!

Now I wanna go stick that DVD on...

Happened to be listening to this as I read your comment. Reminds me, I need to rip the DVD to my laptop, since I'll be hard at work revising tomorrow (which I should've been doing today, but this thread was far too interesting ) and I'll want to listen to it as I revise.

 

[Snowy Rainbow]

You know, ive seen a lot of threads about homosexuality in these forums, and most if not all the posts defend it with an almost religious fervor. What is it with you people and gay rights, how can anyone defend that. Im sorry for being a "troll" or whatever, but seriously ppl.

I just get pist at people who equate homosexual discrimination with racial discrimination. No, your people weren't forced to walk hundreds of miles on foot to a shit faced land you never heard of in a massacre that was on par with the holocaust. Hell, modern day gays don't have any sort of holocaust-like equivalent. They still aren't relegated to tracks of empty land called reservations. Everyone knows about hte plight of the homosexual, no one knows the plight of an American who can't get a fucking flu shot because the government doesn't want to pay for it (or only payed enough for half the tribe to receive).

I've also never heard of a "bathroom for homosexuals" or a "drinking fountain for homosexuals" or a "homosexual school" verses a straight school.

Perhaps there were equivalents at one time or another, but in my opinion, discrimination against the bulk of homosexuals has never reached the type of discrimination against the bulk of Native Americans or blacks... or just about any other minority. If they did, they'd probably consider themselves very blessed right now.

I'm not saying discrimination doesn't exist - but if don't get me started on how such discrimination is IN NO WAY like racial discrimination.

signed: a disgruntled native american.

My friend killed herself because she was bullied due to her sexuality. Every day kids and adults are beaten and murdered because of who they are. Every day a lot of gay people live in fear for their lives and every day they are told how wrong and sick they are.

Think before you type.

 

[HalfTangible]

You know, ive seen a lot of threads about homosexuality in these forums, and most if not all the posts defend it with an almost religious fervor. What is it with you people and gay rights, how can anyone defend that. Im sorry for being a "troll" or whatever, but seriously ppl.

You're so obviously trolling, and you will soon be banned, but in the meantime lets try and discuss your failings as a decent human being.

Its funny you describe standing for gay rights as being 'almost religious', which I think is ironic and slightly insulting to the cause. Gay Rights uses scientific, medical and social evidence to promote equality and understanding, while religion uses fear, ignorance and hatred to install feelings of loyalty to an imaginary being, often with the promise of eternal happiness, in exchange for your free will and worldly possessions.

So, yeah... Grow a pair.

And i find it ironic you treat an entire group (religion) as complete garbage... because you have seen some of them treat a different group (homosexuals) like garbage.

Personally I am against two things homosexual (Gay pride and marriage - The latter on principle, and the former because pride in something you're trying to tell me is irrelevant to your character makes absolutely zero sense) but i am not against homosexuals themselves.

If you're against the religious reasons for denouncing homosexuality, fine. My pride in my savior can take the hit. But don't you fucking DARE tell me that my entire group is idiotic garbage because of something a single troll on an internet forum said.

You know, ive seen a lot of threads about homosexuality in these forums, and most if not all the posts defend it with an almost religious fervor. What is it with you people and gay rights, how can anyone defend that. Im sorry for being a "troll" or whatever, but seriously ppl.

I just get pist at people who equate homosexual discrimination with racial discrimination. No, your people weren't forced to walk hundreds of miles on foot to a shit faced land you never heard of in a massacre that was on par with the holocaust. Hell, modern day gays don't have any sort of holocaust-like equivalent. They still aren't relegated to tracks of empty land called reservations. Everyone knows about hte plight of the homosexual, no one knows the plight of an American who can't get a fucking flu shot because the government doesn't want to pay for it (or only payed enough for half the tribe to receive).

I've also never heard of a "bathroom for homosexuals" or a "drinking fountain for homosexuals" or a "homosexual school" verses a straight school.

Perhaps there were equivalents at one time or another, but in my opinion, discrimination against the bulk of homosexuals has never reached the type of discrimination against the bulk of Native Americans or blacks... or just about any other minority. If they did, they'd probably consider themselves very blessed right now.

I'm not saying discrimination doesn't exist - but if don't get me started on how such discrimination is IN NO WAY like racial discrimination.

signed: a disgruntled native american.

My friend killed herself because she was bullied due to her sexuality. Every day kids and adults are beaten and murdered because of who they are. Every day a lot of gay people live in fear for their lives and every day they are told how wrong and sick they are.

Think before you type.

People are beaten because other people are malicious and cruel. Homosexuality has nothing to do with it, except that a person is easily upset by it.

 

[Someonetookmyname]

A sad thing for me, about me, is that, even though i don't have anything against homosexuals, i wouldn't want my children to become it, i think it's got something to do with not getting any grandchildren.

I really hate myselef for thinking that..

 

[KhakiHat]

Nooooo, I think this video has a better reason...

Spoiler: No. Just... No.

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[Snowy Rainbow]

People are beaten because other people are malicious and cruel. Homosexuality has nothing to do with it.

The cruel and malicious people beat and murder them because they are gay. Or would you like to make a case for the gay bashings and murders to be random and a statistical fluke?

 

[vamp rocks]

I was raised Catholic, went to Catholic school, my whole family are strong believers, to the point of always commenting on how wrong homosexuality is when they see any signs of it. And I had that drilled into me for my whole life to the point that I actually thought they were right. Then about two years ago, I found out I was gay and fell into a spiral of self hating about it because I still thought they were right. I even went to see a counsiler to 'fix' myself.

Thankfully the person convinced me otherwise, though I still haven't told any of my family or friends since they are all the same as my parents. And I still regularly hear about how being gay is a sin. My GF and her family are the only people who know me that I'm gay in RL.

So... yeah, my life wasn't great, and I would give anything so people don't have to endure what I did.

Wow. Thank you for sharing your continuing struggle.

Not being in your position at all and perhaps thus not able to comment on the issue, I'd like to try if you would hear me? I think 'coming out' would be good for you. Despite the hate you have around you, I'd think being able to be completely honest with yourself would help you heal some of the harm.

As I said, I'm not you and I've never been in your position, so please don't be offended or take my comments to be insulting in any way.

No offence taken, I have considered it several times, but I still rely on my family as it is, and I know my parents (if not they whole family) would disown me for being gay, my GF has tried to talk me into it saying I can always move in with her, but I wouldn't want to cause her any problems.

And this even sounds stupid to me, but they are my family, even if they are small minded and ignorant, I still love them, they've done their best to bring me up and I will always be grateful for that, even if they hate me without knowing it.

Yeah.... reading that back, it sounds really stupid, but that is how I feel.

Maybe in the future I will tell them, but not until I can support myself.

i apologize for butting in but i may be able to add some perspective.

I know how you are feeling , luckily for me my parents have always been supportive and it has never been an issue, and i'm extremely thankful for that. Last year one of my two flatmates was in almost the exact situation you were in the only difference being that despite the fact he was totally convinced that his parents would disown him if they found out, from what he had said about his parents it looked like they would, in fact, be supportive (and it turned out they were) now i know this is a massive difference to your life but everything else is the same, he was strictly Catholic and was against it before he found out himself he was gay, he even tried to "cure" himself. He then slowly came out to a few friends that he trusted and eventually came out to all his friends. this took a lot for him as he has severe trust issues due to the fact he was raped as a young teenager but it gave him a tremendous amount of confidence and really helped him.

the main point i am trying to make in a poorly structured way is that i fully agree with Snowy Rainbow, with all the hate around you it is extremely important to have an outlet of that and I too recommend you come out, start small with more people you trust and expand from there, because coming out is one of the most liberating experiences you will ever have. My one restraint to that, however, is that if you truly believe that your parents will disown you if they find out, then do not tell them until you are in a position were you can support yourself but by all means your friends are a good outlet and it will help you figure out who you are and become confident in that person.

Considering you still live with your parents you are still in school. in which case please take this advice i wish someone had given to me. people around your age are freaking immature. and although there will be many people who will accept you there will always be that handful that don't. hell, i lost my best friend when i came out. but just remember that once you leave home and go into university and then onto the real world, in general, people don't care. especially in university where everyone is liberally minded, the fact that your gay is irrelevant as long as you just make it part of who you are and not what defines who you are.

I realize i have rambled on a bit but i get very passionate about this subject

again i apologize for butting in, but coming out is a hard time for everyone and my advice isn't perfect, but if you ever need an opinion from someone who has gone through it feel free to contact me

 

[Someonetookmyname]

I thougt the exact same thing, i was actually making the points for why homosexuals shouldn't bashed on, even before i clicked the link..

 

[HalfTangible]

People are beaten because other people are malicious and cruel. Homosexuality has nothing to do with it.

The cruel and malicious people beat and murder them because they are gay. Or would you like to make a case for the gay bashings and murders to be random and a statistical fluke?

I edited that post shortly after you quoted it, in case you didn't notice. (not being a jerk here - really just letting you know)

I was bullied every day in middle school, and i can tell you that there was absolutely NO rational reason behind it. Cruel and malicious people don't need a real reason. They just need to want to see you miserable. Bashing a person's sexuality just happens to be a very easy way to get someone upset.

The fact you think they need a reason really worries me. Also ticks me off, but mostly just worries me.

 

[eggmiester]

A sad thing for me, about me, is that, even though i don't have anything against homosexuals, i wouldn't want my children to become it, i think it's got something to do with not getting any grandchildren.

I really hate myselef for thinking that..

ah dude, it's all right. you'd prefer if they were straight, yeah? but if they were gay you'd still love 'em anyway, yeah? my mam and dad told me that they would prefer if i wasn't gay, but that they'd still love me.i'm fairly sure you'd be exactly the same way.

 

[Snowy Rainbow]

People are beaten because other people are malicious and cruel. Homosexuality has nothing to do with it.

The cruel and malicious people beat and murder them because they are gay. Or would you like to make a case for the gay bashings and murders to be random and a statistical fluke?

I edited that post shortly after you quoted it, in case you didn't notice.

I was bullied every day in middle school, and i can tell you that there was absolutely NO rational reason behind it. Cruel and malicious people don't need a real reason. They just need to want to see you miserable. Bashing a person's sexuality just happens to be a very easy way to get someone upset.

The fact you think they need a reason really worries me. Also ticks me off, but mostly just worries me.

There's a difference between bullies being dicks and people literally organizing mobs to hunt down and assault or murder gay people. In fact, there was a very famous case here in Australia in the 80's of a group of men who did just that.