As opposed to the genius arguments of real "anti-homosexual" (?) people.Raskolnikov34 said:Ugh, this video is obnoxious...
I'm anti-homosexual (don't flame me), and I hate the way he basically makes up supposed arguments of anti-homosexual people.
I find it quite funny how you have troll face avatar, very suitable.bringer of illumination said:No, he's not trolling at all, how could you even get that idea? [/sarcasm]UltraXan said:He's trolling, right? He's not serious? Because if he is, then he deserves to die in a fire, because I've just been bombarded with religious, racist bullshit. Seriously, I did not find that funny, and I'm not even gay!
OF COURSE HE'S FUCKING TROLLING!!!
How could you possibly listen to him, and think that he isn't trolling?
no, I'm referencing things like "banning oatmeal and single parents, or the infertile, or old".Cakes said:As opposed to the genius arguments of real "anti-homosexual" (?) people.Raskolnikov34 said:Ugh, this video is obnoxious...
I'm anti-homosexual (don't flame me), and I hate the way he basically makes up supposed arguments of anti-homosexual people.
i do not wish to flame you but may i ask why you are anti-homosexual is it because it is not normal or is it fear or is it just that you don't understand it or is it something else for the first no on is "normal" we all have quirks that make us weird (mine include saying BING BONG when i enter my house and eating block cheese with mayo spread on it or saying eh as a type of question mark... yes i'm Canadian) for the second well not much i can say there for the last i can understand it's weird and you have no connection it's like trying to describe colors to a person who has been blind since birth but honestly i'd like to hear why from an anti-homo who actually has manners (and just so you know i'm am straight so you don't need to talk about it in your response if you choose to respond) also if you say it's because it's unnatural well so is a computer and cars and all the other appliances we use on a daily basis and the unnatural claim is the only one i find complete crap (religion is protected cause hey hard to argue with someone you can't talk to aka god)Raskolnikov34 said:Ugh, this video is obnoxious...
I'm anti-homosexual (don't flame me), and I hate the way he basically makes up supposed arguments of anti-homosexual people.
Alas the red button prevents me from seeing your avatar right now. Good video though.Snowy Rainbow said:I dunno. My avatar is a rainbow, my name has rainbow in it and the video is supremely sarcastic. You really think it'll go over anyone's head? You think too little of your Escapst brothers and sisters!CLEVERSLEAZOID said:The video I found quite humourous. Although I can't see posting it as anything else other than trollbait as it is rather... obnoxious at the same time. Some people will be too dumb to take it how its supposed to be taken and will see it as an attack against homosexuality.
Plus there is the fact its your very first post.![]()
Why am I anti-gay marriage?tjcross said:i do not wish to flame you but may i ask why you are anti-homosexual is it because it is not normal or is it fear or is it just that you don't understand it or is it something else for the first no on is "normal" we all have quirks that make us weird (mine include saying BING BONG when i enter my house and eating block cheese with mayo spread on it or saying eh as a type of question mark... yes i'm Canadian) for the second well not much i can say there for the last i can understand it's weird and you have no connection it's like trying to describe colors to a person who has been blind since birth but honestly i'd like to hear why from an anti-homo who actually has manners (and just so you know i'm am straight so you don't need to talk about it in your response if you choose to respond) also if you say it's because it's unnatural well so is a computer and cars and all the other appliances we use on a daily basis and the unnatural claim is the only one i find complete crap (religion is protected cause hey hard to argue with someone you can't talk to aka god)Raskolnikov34 said:Ugh, this video is obnoxious...
I'm anti-homosexual (don't flame me), and I hate the way he basically makes up supposed arguments of anti-homosexual people.
[CITATION(S) NEEDED]Raskolnikov34 said:Why am I anti-gay marriage?tjcross said:i do not wish to flame you but may i ask why you are anti-homosexual is it because it is not normal or is it fear or is it just that you don't understand it or is it something else for the first no on is "normal" we all have quirks that make us weird (mine include saying BING BONG when i enter my house and eating block cheese with mayo spread on it or saying eh as a type of question mark... yes i'm Canadian) for the second well not much i can say there for the last i can understand it's weird and you have no connection it's like trying to describe colors to a person who has been blind since birth but honestly i'd like to hear why from an anti-homo who actually has manners (and just so you know i'm am straight so you don't need to talk about it in your response if you choose to respond) also if you say it's because it's unnatural well so is a computer and cars and all the other appliances we use on a daily basis and the unnatural claim is the only one i find complete crap (religion is protected cause hey hard to argue with someone you can't talk to aka god)Raskolnikov34 said:Ugh, this video is obnoxious...
I'm anti-homosexual (don't flame me), and I hate the way he basically makes up supposed arguments of anti-homosexual people.
Because its not conductive to a happy, functioning society. It would completely destroy the institution of marriage (something already suffering from the amount of divorces). Gay marriages are almost always unhealthy, they leave the children involved in particular without proper role models, and leads to unhappiness for them later on. And, yes, homosexual is completely unnatural, and is (warning: this may be offensive) frankly immoral, hedonistic behavior. From a biological, ethical, and psychological perspective, it is unnatural behavior that should not accepted by society.
There's no refutal to the argument that you've offered, you've just vaguely hinted that his analogical arguments do not ring true without attacking the principles which are transferrable.Raskolnikov34 said:no, I'm referencing things like "banning oatmeal and single parents, or the infertile, or old".Cakes said:As opposed to the genius arguments of real "anti-homosexual" (?) people.Raskolnikov34 said:Ugh, this video is obnoxious...
I'm anti-homosexual (don't flame me), and I hate the way he basically makes up supposed arguments of anti-homosexual people.
He's propping up arguments without articulating their points either, I could do the same for advocates of gay marriage.
And yes, I understand this video is semi-trollish, its just that some people take the video and respond by saying "yup, that's exactly what anti-gay marriage advocates think!".
I already made a couple posts giving other people this....Baneat said:There's no refutal to the argument that you've offered, you've just vaguely hinted that his analogical arguments do not ring true without attacking the principles which are transferrable.Raskolnikov34 said:no, I'm referencing things like "banning oatmeal and single parents, or the infertile, or old".Cakes said:As opposed to the genius arguments of real "anti-homosexual" (?) people.Raskolnikov34 said:Ugh, this video is obnoxious...
I'm anti-homosexual (don't flame me), and I hate the way he basically makes up supposed arguments of anti-homosexual people.
He's propping up arguments without articulating their points either, I could do the same for advocates of gay marriage.
And yes, I understand this video is semi-trollish, its just that some people take the video and respond by saying "yup, that's exactly what anti-gay marriage advocates think!".
Try again, slow down, and refute all of his points.
And offer any of your own that he hasn't considered,
Really, I'd love to hear them (Not trolling) because I've heard every single one of those cited and they can all be soundly countered.
he's not. he's telling vault girl that animals have nothing to do with the topic. i think a better way to show the absurdity of the comment is to say there aren't any racoons in the wild dressing like you ain't never seen elton john or lady gaga.cobra_ky said:in what sense, then, can you say that homosexuality is unnatural? you seem to be appealing to a purely subjective standard of human nature.TheSniperFan said:Because we're talking about gay rights here, so animals have nothing to do in this discussion. That's like saying: It's unnatural for the human being to fly. And then someone comes up with: "But, birds...".Vault Girl said:Homosexuality is quite common in the natural world in many other species, why should humanity be any different?
Read the post I've responded to from him, it about sums up his (fallacious and rather hypocritical) viewpoints already.Baneat said:There's no refutal to the argument that you've offered, you've just vaguely hinted that his analogical arguments do not ring true without attacking the principles which are transferrable.Raskolnikov34 said:no, I'm referencing things like "banning oatmeal and single parents, or the infertile, or old".Cakes said:As opposed to the genius arguments of real "anti-homosexual" (?) people.Raskolnikov34 said:Ugh, this video is obnoxious...
I'm anti-homosexual (don't flame me), and I hate the way he basically makes up supposed arguments of anti-homosexual people.
He's propping up arguments without articulating their points either, I could do the same for advocates of gay marriage.
And yes, I understand this video is semi-trollish, its just that some people take the video and respond by saying "yup, that's exactly what anti-gay marriage advocates think!".
Try again, slow down, and refute all of his points.
And offer any of your own that he hasn't considered,
Really, I'd love to hear them (Not trolling) because I've heard every single one of those cited and they can all be soundly countered.
Yes, the points placed have been nulled a priori (Without subjective observed evidence), so I'll need more.ShadowsofHope said:Read the post I've responded to from him, it about sums up his (fallacious and rather hypocritical) viewpoints already.Baneat said:There's no refutal to the argument that you've offered, you've just vaguely hinted that his analogical arguments do not ring true without attacking the principles which are transferrable.Raskolnikov34 said:no, I'm referencing things like "banning oatmeal and single parents, or the infertile, or old".Cakes said:As opposed to the genius arguments of real "anti-homosexual" (?) people.Raskolnikov34 said:Ugh, this video is obnoxious...
I'm anti-homosexual (don't flame me), and I hate the way he basically makes up supposed arguments of anti-homosexual people.
He's propping up arguments without articulating their points either, I could do the same for advocates of gay marriage.
And yes, I understand this video is semi-trollish, its just that some people take the video and respond by saying "yup, that's exactly what anti-gay marriage advocates think!".
Try again, slow down, and refute all of his points.
And offer any of your own that he hasn't considered,
Really, I'd love to hear them (Not trolling) because I've heard every single one of those cited and they can all be soundly countered.
Then I guess we'll be waiting forever for more, as usual. It's either fundamental Christian blogs and quoted Biblical verses, or.. "It's my belief, respect it just.. well, because!". At least, in terms of this specific topic.Baneat said:Yes, the points placed have been nulled a priori (Without subjective observed evidence), so I'll need more.ShadowsofHope said:Read the post I've responded to from him, it about sums up his (fallacious and rather hypocritical) viewpoints already.Baneat said:There's no refutal to the argument that you've offered, you've just vaguely hinted that his analogical arguments do not ring true without attacking the principles which are transferrable.Raskolnikov34 said:no, I'm referencing things like "banning oatmeal and single parents, or the infertile, or old".Cakes said:As opposed to the genius arguments of real "anti-homosexual" (?) people.Raskolnikov34 said:Ugh, this video is obnoxious...
I'm anti-homosexual (don't flame me), and I hate the way he basically makes up supposed arguments of anti-homosexual people.
He's propping up arguments without articulating their points either, I could do the same for advocates of gay marriage.
And yes, I understand this video is semi-trollish, its just that some people take the video and respond by saying "yup, that's exactly what anti-gay marriage advocates think!".
Try again, slow down, and refute all of his points.
And offer any of your own that he hasn't considered,
Really, I'd love to hear them (Not trolling) because I've heard every single one of those cited and they can all be soundly countered.
i will admit that i do not know much about an actual gay person and will agree that they should not adopt (i mean if it's hell for a gay kid to grow up with straight parents it would be the same for a straight kid with gay parents especially if the parents were a different gender than the child) i believe they should be allowed to marry the reason i support them is because my belief is that a gay person merely has some "wires" in their brain mixed up (same as how some people have a foot fetish) and due to that i label it more under a mental condition that only changes how the subject lusts for someone and since it doesn't effect society in the big picture other than it being odd i don't see a reason to stand against it nor do i find it immoral because well my morals are just be a good person and don't really have anything to do with sexuality (except some of the more horrible aspects such as rape torture ect) and i will admit that by my morals being anti-homo is not immoral either as long as the person doesn't participate in hate crimes i am just trying to understand it.Raskolnikov34 said:Why am I anti-gay marriage?tjcross said:i do not wish to flame you but may i ask why you are anti-homosexual is it because it is not normal or is it fear or is it just that you don't understand it or is it something else for the first no on is "normal" we all have quirks that make us weird (mine include saying BING BONG when i enter my house and eating block cheese with mayo spread on it or saying eh as a type of question mark... yes i'm Canadian) for the second well not much i can say there for the last i can understand it's weird and you have no connection it's like trying to describe colors to a person who has been blind since birth but honestly i'd like to hear why from an anti-homo who actually has manners (and just so you know i'm am straight so you don't need to talk about it in your response if you choose to respond) also if you say it's because it's unnatural well so is a computer and cars and all the other appliances we use on a daily basis and the unnatural claim is the only one i find complete crap (religion is protected cause hey hard to argue with someone you can't talk to aka god)Raskolnikov34 said:Ugh, this video is obnoxious...
I'm anti-homosexual (don't flame me), and I hate the way he basically makes up supposed arguments of anti-homosexual people.
Because its not conductive to a happy, functioning society. It would completely destroy the institution of marriage (something already suffering from the amount of divorces). Gay marriages are almost always unhealthy, they leave the children involved in particular without proper role models, and leads to unhappiness for them later on. And, yes, homosexual is completely unnatural, and is (warning: this may be offensive) frankly immoral, hedonistic behavior. From a biological, ethical, and psychological perspective, it is unnatural behavior that should not accepted by society.
And no, I don't hate or fear homosexuals, I don't support any sort of violence against them. And don't take this as a hate speech, I'm open to debate and seeing your points of view as well.
Here's a website that has some points for and against it (and no, I don't agree with their point about religions): http://www.balancedpolitics.org/same_sex_marriages.htm