Why I am not going to buy Mass Effect 3

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Skoldpadda said:
In b4 "lol u guyz buznizezz make money!"

Protheans were a big deal from ME1 and onward. If one is gonna show up, he belongs in the series' closing act.

This is sleazy.

Games are art? Businesses like EA sure don't seem to give a shit about the artistic side of things.

I had already decided not to buy ME3. It wasn't an easy decision. This confirms that it was the correct one (for me).
how can they BELONG ion the games closing act when 2 games ago it was given knowledge that they were extinct?
 

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Loop Stricken said:
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Coreless said:
The industry is and always was, about making money...lets me say it again...the industry is and always was, about making money.
No shit. I don't mind that, but this move is effectively holding content to ransom.
tendaji said:
Why are we assuming the Protean is going to be a huge importance to the game?
Because he's a Prothean, plain and simple. Without the Protheans we'd effectively have no Mass Effect games.
I would like to address your points.

1.- we wont know if they are holding content for ransom until the game is releases, Zaeed was not a plot centric character even though he was integral to the Blue Suns, who are major antagonists in ME2


2.- That is a poor logical conclusion to reach, just because Shepard is human it doesnt make every other human as important.
1) Zaeed was free with any new copy of the game.

2) If Shepard was the last human alive in the galaxy s/he'd be important by default. If Shepard was the last member alive of a species that basically enabled the events of this entire game series? Moreso.
1.- If you didnt get the cerberus network you had to pay for it.

2.- Would you say the same if it was joker instead of sheppard? or Jacob? or Miranda? or Doctor Chakwas, or kelly? or Random Soldier guy 2354123?
 

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boag said:
Skoldpadda said:
In b4 "lol u guyz buznizezz make money!"

Protheans were a big deal from ME1 and onward. If one is gonna show up, he belongs in the series' closing act.

This is sleazy.

Games are art? Businesses like EA sure don't seem to give a shit about the artistic side of things.

I had already decided not to buy ME3. It wasn't an easy decision. This confirms that it was the correct one (for me).
how can they BELONG ion the games closing act when 2 games ago it was given knowledge that they were extinct?
And one game ago it's revealed that they're the hive mind controlled army of a Reaper....
 

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eK99_T61alc&feature=player_embedded

Found this on another thread - dont know how to embed it. Protheans sound fucking stupid, like space Jamaicans or something. Guess he will put on some Bob Marley and smoke some Ganja.


Now no longer interested in downloading it because it will ruin that race for ever.
 

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Evil Teddie said:
Gamers? Boycott? Too bad some are going to pirate it and call that boycotting. There's an enraged TotalBiscuit venting on youtube, but still gamers in general have always been disorganised as a group...
This. I respect not one of these bullshit whiny boycotts because of this, and man is it ever tiring nowadays. Every time SOMETHING happens, it's just negativity all around. The "pirating it," thing, and the "I'll get it used instead so no one, not even the devs, get my money" utterly gall me. Nice one, bro, way to make sure the right people get fucked. Way to show you're not gonna take it and will not stand for any bullshit by...buying the game.

If you're taking a stand, mean it. Inconvenience yourself all the way or you might as well give them your money now, since you will later anyway cause you simply could not go without blue bitchin' sex in space to stand by your beliefs. As far as I'm concerned, you either send the message home, or be a pussy. Your call.

Btw, I cancelled my preorder cause I'm broke, but life's too short to get all Che Guevara over DLC for a bleepety-bloopy vidya gaem. Call me when they start withholding the actual ending behind some (paid) DLC. Now THAT is serious. This is unknown. Not one of you know anything about this character outside his race.
 

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Well, have fun playing something other than Mass Effect 3!

I don't give a crap, because I have the collector edition pre-ordered, and I don't usually buy DLC anyway. I see a problem, and I understand, but I'm not going to let that spoil the game for me.
 

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anthony87 said:
boag said:
Skoldpadda said:
In b4 "lol u guyz buznizezz make money!"

Protheans were a big deal from ME1 and onward. If one is gonna show up, he belongs in the series' closing act.

This is sleazy.

Games are art? Businesses like EA sure don't seem to give a shit about the artistic side of things.

I had already decided not to buy ME3. It wasn't an easy decision. This confirms that it was the correct one (for me).
how can they BELONG ion the games closing act when 2 games ago it was given knowledge that they were extinct?
And one game ago it's revealed that they're the hive mind controlled army of a Reaper....
And you killed them all at the end of that game, how do you jump from that to THEY BELONG IN THE CLOSING ACT.
 

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Been blown enormously out of proportion, I reckon.

If you go to buy a car, you'll have a list of extra stuff you can order for quite a lot of money, sometimes ridiculously overpriced depending on the manufacturer. Same with computers, yachts, almost anything. They have the right to market and distribute their product or parts thereof however they wish and it's up to us to decide whether we're willing to shell out or not.

The fellow in the video used the word 'entitled' a few times. He's entitled to nothing but the choice, which he exercised, and that's the end of the matter as far as he and EA are concerned.
 

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SonOfVoorhees said:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eK99_T61alc&feature=player_embedded

Found this on another thread - dont know how to embed it. Protheans sound fucking stupid, like space Jamaicans or something. Guess he will put on some Bob Marley and smoke some Ganja.


Now no longer interested in downloading it because it will ruin that race for ever.
are you saying that sounding like a Jamaican is inherently bad? could please explain why it ruins the race?
 

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Jaric93 said:
I loved Mass Effect, and Mass Effect 2 but after watching this video I have cancelled my pre-order
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ri0vrJ-y2zM&context=C39179a6ADOEgsToPDskJl3lWj020_lrFLeeTgWUh4

This kind of thing just goes too far and is the king of money grabbing nonsense I just can't stand. All I ask is that you watch the video and consider the implications.

Edit: The video in short explains that bioware and ea are forcing you to pay for a game changing character those of you who who have played mass effect will realise the significance of this kind of Team-mate.
It is a Prothean
The content is only avalible for those who are willing to fork out for the collectors edition or pay extra for day of release DLC
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AyreonMaiden said:
Evil Teddie said:
Gamers? Boycott? Too bad some are going to pirate it and call that boycotting. There's an enraged TotalBiscuit venting on youtube, but still gamers in general have always been disorganised as a group...
This. I respect not one of these bullshit whiny boycotts because of this, and man is it ever tiring nowadays. Every time SOMETHING happens, it's just negativity all around. The "pirating it," thing, and the "I'll get it used instead so no one, not even the devs, get my money" utterly gall me. Nice one, bro, way to make sure the right people get fucked. Way to show you're not gonna take it and will not stand for any bullshit by...buying the game.

If you're taking a stand, mean it. Inconvenience yourself all the way or you might as well give them your money now, since you will later anyway cause you simply could not go without blue bitchin' sex in space to stand by your beliefs. As far as I'm concerned, you either send the message home, or be a pussy. Your call.

Btw, I cancelled my preorder cause I'm broke, but life's too short to get all Che Guevara over DLC for a bleepety-bloopy vidya gaem. Call me when they start withholding the actual ending behind some (paid) DLC. Now THAT is serious. This is unknown. Not one of you know anything about this character outside his race.
I agree with you, the My mom wont buy me a new Ipad, I AM THE 99%, individuals that crow and bark aloud how unfair it is that the game that they purchased doesnt satisfy them, is the worst crime ever.

If they actually did take a stance instead of continuously posting, OMG X company sucks I will only buy this last game from them and thats it, they might actually accomplish something.
 

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I don't understand why you guys immediately ruled out the fact that other Protheans might make an appearance in the game. They don't have to be squadmates to be part of (or central to) the story.

We don't really know anything about the story. A Prothean could take the Illusive Man's role in the third game for all we know. Unless it was stated that the Prothean in the DLC was the last of its kind. Then yeah, this suuucks.
 

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boag said:
anthony87 said:
boag said:
Skoldpadda said:
In b4 "lol u guyz buznizezz make money!"

Protheans were a big deal from ME1 and onward. If one is gonna show up, he belongs in the series' closing act.

This is sleazy.

Games are art? Businesses like EA sure don't seem to give a shit about the artistic side of things.

I had already decided not to buy ME3. It wasn't an easy decision. This confirms that it was the correct one (for me).
how can they BELONG ion the games closing act when 2 games ago it was given knowledge that they were extinct?
And one game ago it's revealed that they're the hive mind controlled army of a Reaper....
And you killed them all at the end of that game, how do you jump from that to THEY BELONG IN THE CLOSING ACT.
Maybe there was a single Prothean in hiding but keeping an eye on thing through the entire series without nary a word to the one man/woman who's actively trying to stop the Reapers from repeating their cycle of destruction.

Then when the time of the third game rolls around he thinks to himself "Damn....there's some serious shit going down. Guess I'd better get out there so..."
 

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Yeah, this kinda sucks, if you are getting the collectors edition you are probably pretty happy though. I'm not for this decision but I'm not going to limit myself from playing the game, I really hope this wasn't Bioware's idea and this was a call made by EA. Either way this is a really great looking game and it has some bad business attached to it but I still really want to play it and will put up with a little bullshit in order to have a great experience.
 

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At this point, I'm still trusting Bioware not to cut content that is central to the game and hide it behind a DLC wall. Additional cool content, sure, but not vital content. I'm sincerely hoping they don't prove me wrong on that point.

I've already preorded the Collector's Edition so it's not a huge deal for me anyway, but for everyone else there seems to be an awful lot of getting caught up in baseless speculation here.

Case in point: how many people who said "OMGZ multiplayer is a stupid thing to be adding to Mass Effect, it'll be horrible and ruin the game" have since played the demo and publicly admitted that they were wrong in their assumptions?
 

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IF the new character is not integral to the plot (which is possible, even based upon how important the character sounds) then I don't have a problem with the Collector's Edition having bonus content, and I also don't have a problem with Bioware selling that same content to people who didn't buy the Collector's Edition.

However, I do agree that it will be a problem if said character IS integral to the plot.
 

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anthony87 said:
boag said:
anthony87 said:
boag said:
Skoldpadda said:
In b4 "lol u guyz buznizezz make money!"

Protheans were a big deal from ME1 and onward. If one is gonna show up, he belongs in the series' closing act.

This is sleazy.

Games are art? Businesses like EA sure don't seem to give a shit about the artistic side of things.

I had already decided not to buy ME3. It wasn't an easy decision. This confirms that it was the correct one (for me).
how can they BELONG ion the games closing act when 2 games ago it was given knowledge that they were extinct?
And one game ago it's revealed that they're the hive mind controlled army of a Reaper....
And you killed them all at the end of that game, how do you jump from that to THEY BELONG IN THE CLOSING ACT.
Maybe there was a single Prothean in hiding but keeping an eye on thing through the entire series without nary a word to the one man/woman who's actively trying to stop the Reapers from repeating their cycle of destruction.

Then when the time of the third game rolls around he thinks to himself "Damn....there's some serious shit going down. Guess I'd better get out there so..."
I get the feeling you have no concrete answer that isnt mired in supposition.

Im going to be very nice and give you the reason why the Prothean could be included in the game and why the DLC might very well be cut content, so that when the question presents itself before you, you will have a better anwser than "Because"

The leaked script from a couple of months ago, referenced the Prothean, and a lot of his dialog had him give Shepard precise information about how to stop the reapers from fucking up the Galaxy.

Is this the same prothean from the DLC? there is heavy evidence for it, including the name Ian, if the Prothean from the DLC is Ian, then he is a very direct part of the reason Shepard learns of the MGuffin to control the Repears
 

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I don't like Launch DLC either, but I'm forced to concede that we aren't entitled to everything they make pre-launch. If they intend something as DLC - an extra character, mission, weapon even...then that pisses me off but I can't blame them. But when it's content that is fucking crucial to the backstory at least, if not the storyline, then I think it's a case of them deliberately taking something out so that we will feel like our game is incomplete without it, and have to buy it. And that not only pisses me off, I think it is actually fucking terrible to do that to players. I think we are entitled to everyhting to do with the main storyline and such incredibly important details of the backstory. And it bothers me because in the future, what's to stop a developer(/publisher I don't f***ing know anymore) from with-holding one character, or part of the storyline, or element of gameplay, in order to sell it seperately? There are any number of games out today where something could easily be taken out, and it would not be missed if we never knew about it, and the game would still sell for the same amount and still be a great game. But if we were then told about this character, or thing, and about its importance, the game would feel incomplete.

For example, imagine if there were no Argonians in Skyrim, and there had never been any in any Elder Scrolls game. No-one would care. It'd be "Oh yep, a bunch of humans, a bunch of elves and cat people". If they then suddenly introduced Argonians, players would be tripping over each other to get them. But if we never knew, no-one would even think of it.

And that's why I hate this, because the only logical progression is that they're going to go further and further until you have to buy crucial parts of the game, like a melee attack, or a race, or the HUD, for extra money on top of what the game should be, because they can.
 

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What they humorously forgot to mention in the video is that

1. The DLC was not CUT from the game because it was never IN the game originally
2. You DO NOT need the DLC to get the best ending in the game
3. The Prothean IS STILL IN THE BASE GAME, all the DLc does is make him abe to join your squad.

I love how people are following the word of a BLATANT liar in some childish attempt to get people to not play the game.

However considering the shit people did to that one bioware employee and that people can find valves hats as a scam only shows how decedent, corrupt, and overly entitled the average gamer is nowadays.

its sickening.