Why i hate fallout 3.

[Yog Sothoth]

Lets be clear, I don't like Fallout 3. Where ever it fell out of, it wasn't a nice place. But allow to express my reasons:

*snip*

So then, maybe go play something else...? I mean, I hate Gears of War and Halo, but you don't see me ranting about it, I just play the games that I actually enjoy. Like Fallout 3....

 

[Valentine82]

*note: I am completely unfamiliar with other Fallout games.

That's too bad.

Moving on, I'll just skip over the Oblivion parts since they could derail the topic.

Super mutants look absurd and speak ridiculously. There are crab things and giants. I thought hundreds of years of radiation would have made things look, well, more deadspacey. Not make them stronger.

Well, mutation is an interesting thing. I agree with you, the Super Mutants look pretty bad in this game, I kind of just assume the ones in this game are an uglier dumber breed from the ones in Fallout one and two. Anyway, the world of Fallout has this thing called FEV, it's a viral agent that was designed to rewrite the DNA of it's host, increasing the survivability of the host.

2. Retrofuturism: This is purely personal taste but the I can't stand the 1950s theme of the game. I mean, I understood it, I figured the bombs fell in the 1950s. But when I was informed the bombs sometime in our future in made no sense whatsoever. I just don't get the 1950's theme when culture developed way more past the 50s.

It didn't make sense to you because you did not delve into the intrigue behind the retrofuturism. In the world of Fallout the UN never took hold, the world war never ended, and cultural progression did not continue because there was a total war society. Basically, War froze all cultural progress, technology continued to advance mostly for the purpose of war. Society also continued to progress, but mostly for the purpose of war (IE no Rock and Roll revolution, no Woodstock, no Information Age).

3. The voice acting is worse than oblivions, and that's saying something.

There were some painful moments, but overall the voice acting was ok. It wasn't good, but it wasn't bad. What's more vexing is that the dialogue options were often horrible, when the only "Evil" responses you can give are typically retarded and juvenile that's just unacceptable. Where's that contemplative methodical and deceptive evil we've all come to love?

4. I CANT JOIN THE BAD GUYS!!!! I completely agreed with what the enclave was doing, screw the irradiated and save what's left of the world. But you can't join them, what's up with that?!?!
Oblivion had so many factions to join, you could really play how you wanted to. That brings me to 5.

I don't want to spoil anything but you can side with the bad guys to some degree. However, you're a mutant. You're impure. You are NOT a pure human. Why would the Enclave want you? You are less than human in their eyes.

5. Ok, seriously, who thinks that the 'Brotherhood of Steel' is a cool name? It sucks.

The name has been around since the original Fallout, it ties into their backstory, it ties into their philosophy, it's part of who they are. Anyway, how is the "Brotherhood of Steel" any lamer than "The Dark Brotherhood"?

6. This is a pet hate but; in any game with guns: THERE SHOULD BE IRONSIGHTS!!!!! I get so annoyed when I right click to raise the gun to my eye level and it doesn't happen. That is such a big immersion killer for me. I know its not an FPS..... but still, it drives me insane. Any good game with guns has sights of some kind. And snipers don't count, I need that ability for all weapons except the obvious ones (big ones). EH!

Yeah, there should be more aiming on the part of your avatar in VATs mode.

7. I couldn't get immersed in the story because I had discovered within 2 hours of the game that its setting was so ridiculous that I just didn't care.

How is it any more ridiculous than the setting of Oblivion?

Sure I was mildly impressed with the tutorial and saw some realism ( I think) in the poorly named RAD ROACHES but when you get outside...the guns have no sights and the environment is insanely dull.

The outside is kind of dull, but it's not so bad. There's lots of content and things to explore. The problem with Fallout 3 is it just doesn't have an NCR or New Reno in it. Fallout 3 really needs it's own New Reno.

Yes I blew up megaton, and thought it was boring. Then I killed everyone in that tower because I didn't care. The story just didn't pull me in, it may have worked wonders for you, but for me it was all too far fetched.

The story in Fallout 3 was pretty terrible.

 

[lava_lamp]

i love Fallout 3 for most of the reasons you hate it

but i hate Oblivion because i think fantasy setting are ridicules

its all opinion

 

[Zydrate]

Lets be clear, I don't like Fallout 3. Where ever it fell out of, it wasn't a nice place. But allow to express my reasons:

*note: I am completely unfamiliar with other Fallout games.

1. I am a massive Oblivion fan (insanely modded of course), but I still played vanilla oblivion and enjoyed it immensely. As such I was optimistic for fallout 3. In comparison to Oblivion, Fallout 3 has worse environments, less immersive scenery and what I call 'ridiculous' wildlife. I mean, somehow I expected it to be more realistic. Super mutants look absurd and speak ridiculously. There are crab things and giants. I thought hundreds of years of radiation would have made things look, well, more deadspacey. Not make them stronger.

I think you might have missed the point if you're complaining about the wildlife and scenery.
Of course the Super Mutants look and speak poorly, they've always looked and spoke like The Hulk's retarded cousin. Of course there's giant insects and other ugly creatures roaming about, the entire point of the Fallout series is Science Fiction stereotypes... well, that and cramming as many Mad Max references in as possible.

2. Retrofuturism: This is purely personal taste but the I can't stand the 1950s theme of the game. I mean, I understood it, I figured the bombs fell in the 1950s. But when I was informed the bombs sometime in our future in made no sense whatsoever. I just don't get the 1950's theme when culture developed way more past the 50s.

Again, this is something you missed out on from not at least bothering to research the Fallout series. Culturally, the Fallout world hasn't really progressed beyond the 50s (though, I'm pretty sure the music is actually 30s/40s fare)... in spite of the fact that everyone and their dog seems to have a semi-clunky desktop computer and there's laser weapons and nuclear-powered cars that don't work properly.

3. The voice acting is worse than oblivions, and that's saying something.

Okay, now you're just being a dick. The voice acting is at least a little better than Oblivion... criminal scum.

4. I CANT JOIN THE BAD GUYS!!!! I completely agreed with what the enclave was doing, screw the irradiated and save what's left of the world. But you can't join them, what's up with that?!?!
Oblivion had so many factions to join, you could really play how you wanted to. That brings me to 5.

Of course you can't join the "badguys," you've never been able to join the Enclave in a Fallout game. You again seem to be missing the point, Fallout 3 is not a sequel to Oblivion it wasn't even thought up by the same developers. You keep complaining that Bethesda didn't make unimportant feature #357 that Oblivion had and granted they could have, but then they'd be betraying the Fallout series to please people that know nothing about the series... like you.

5. Ok, seriously, who thinks that the 'Brotherhood of Steel' is a cool name? It sucks. Its an awful name for the people you have to join. It reminds me of the homosexual steel mill workers from 'The Simpsons'.

Please file all complaints about things that were established in the first damned Fallout game in written form and then mail them to Black Isle, the people that made the first Fallout.
Oh wait, they don't exist anymore, I guess you'll just have to annoy people on the internet instead...

6. This is a pet hate but; in any game with guns: THERE SHOULD BE IRONSIGHTS!!!!! I get so annoyed when I right click to raise the gun to my eye level and it doesn't happen. That is such a big immersion killer for me. I know its not an FPS..... but still, it drives me insane. Any good game with guns has sights of some kind. And snipers don't count, I need that ability for all weapons except the obvious ones (big ones). EH!

What are "ironsights"? I played FO3 just fine with the little crosshair/targetting reticule.

7. I couldn't get immersed in the story because I had discovered within 2 hours of the game that its setting was so ridiculous that I just didn't care. Sure I was mildly impressed with the tutorial and saw some realism ( I think) in the poorly named RAD ROACHES but when you get outside...the guns have no sights and the environment is insanely dull.

I'm sorry that you're a whiny, little ***** that doesn't understand anything at all about Fallout, but if you're going to blame the game or Bethesda's rather faithful title for you not enjoying the game, then you get no sympathy from me.

Yes I blew up megaton, and thought it was boring. Then I killed everyone in that tower because I didn't care. The story just didn't pull me in, it may have worked wonders for you, but for me it was all too far fetched.

I will say that one of the few parts of the game I liked was in the virtual reality land with your dog dad, but that got boring quickly too.

In conclusion, I don't like Fallout 3, I really, really don't. I'm sure people will flame me or whatever but remember this is purely personal opinion.

When your opinion is flavoured by ignorance of an entire franchise and you do nothing but make shallow complaints fueled by that ignorance, your opinion is about as worthless as a $4 bill.

Quoting this for truth.

Along with this.

It's called suspension of disbelief.
You should try it.

 

[theSovietConnection]

I will agree that elder scrolls is better than fallout but i wont agree with the fact that fallout is crap. There are key things in fallout that i would love for them to bring over into the elder scrolls series:
1) the leveling system- no need to sleep and exp is gained from doing multiple things e.g disarming traps
2) Skill points- I liked the way that u could allocate your points instead of them being added retroactively for grinding a skill.
3) Perks- This made the game reach new levels of fun for me. More gore, a friend to help in combat, find more ammo, quicker leveling and tonnes more that changes the game you play. The idea of perks in elder scrolls sounds good to me.
3) VATS- Dont see how it would work in elder scrolls but i still like VATS. An instant "make me look awesome" button to impress your friends is always fun.

VATS could be employed quite easily with magic and arrows, not sure how else it could be used in Elder Scrolls, though. I have to disagree with your point about skill points, though, to me it made more sense that the more you used something the better you got with it. It'd be nice if they were able to fuse the two, like you earn points for using a weapon but at the same time you can also add points when you level up.

 

[LockNstock]

Fallout has better voice acting,and all the npc's don't look as if they just had a stroke like they did in oblivion

 

[Caboose89]

Fallout 3 is one of the best games I've played in a long time, and Oblivion sucked.

1. Oblivion and Fallout both may have dull environments (the minute you step outside you've seen all in Oblivion, but you've only seen about 1/8 of Fallout) but at least in fallout you can't get thrown in jail, and you can blow stuff up.

2. I couldn't figure out how to work anything in Oblivion. Fallout had a great tutorial, while Oblivion's is like... is like... I don't even think there is one! (I'm also too self glorified to actually look in the manual.)

3. In Fallout they hand you the level up and you aren't restricted to 8 attributes, you have a wide variety. In Oblivion you have to find a bed then up grade your 8 attributes which isn't fun to do when you're exploring ruins.

4. In Oblivion you have all those confusing menus, which remind me of scrolls, while in Fallout 3 you have the very convenient Pipboy to sort out all your confusion by labeling things, not just showing a picture and expecting you to remember everything!

In conclusion I think Fallout 3 was a step up from Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion, but if the voices in my head are right, Elder Scrolls V will be a step up from Fallout 3 and Fallout 4 will be a step above Elder Scrolls V. This battle between them will probably continue on for eternity, and we all know it will.

 

[BolognaBaloney]

i havent played it, but from what ive seen of it, its overrated pretty damm much.

Please, play a game before you judge it, else your trolling.

 

[Nargleblarg]

Just to quickly compare the games they are both good. Fallout has a better story which way better then Oblivion, combat is about the same in both just with guns and vats, the landscape in both is pretty bad plus I saw the same buildings/sewers recycled so many times.

But one thing I have to say I hated was in oblivion you had to close like 18 gates in the whole game. (I know you technically don't have to close that many gates but you do if you go for 100% like me)At least Fallout didn't get that repetitive.

Also Fallout had one thing Oblivion didn't....humor, Oblivion was never laid back I mean it's understandable at most times with the fighting and stuff but when nothing is going on the people can just bring you down with their unemotional monotone voices. Fallout doesn't have that problem it's just a continuing joke on itself. Just the idea that the world has ended should make you sad but they pull it off the humor so well you just will find yourself smiling at all the mutant trees, insane superheroes fighting in the streets, finding a area with 20 clones of the same guy that can only say Gary. It just makes you feel the world is alive.

Now it is obvioius that I think Fallout is better it just was a better game overall. But I still love Oblivion so much it was a great game to but it's just outdated. (where is elder scrolls 5?)

 

[Hitman 43]

Never played Fallout.

 

[BardSeed]

I agree that fallout 3 was bad, but I'll address your points anyway, because some of them annoyed me.

1. It's a game. I know that's an over-used argument, but if it was just like real life there'd be nothing on the surface and it would be immensely boring.

2. It's simply an alternate universe from our own.

3. I have to say that, from what I played, I thought the voice acting was a lot better than Oblivion's. Not once did a character speak to me in multiple voices, which is more than I can say for Oblivion.

4. This was stupid. In the original fallout, you can join the main boss.

5. Nit-picking.

6. It annoyed me at first, but it wasn't game-breaking, in my opinion.

7. I'm sure Bethesda loved having an excuse to make the game look bland and boring. The originals managed to make the wasteland interesting. Even the cities in fallout 3 were boring.

 

[timmytom1]

Lets be clear, I don't like Fallout 3. Where ever it fell out of, it wasn't a nice place. But allow to express my reasons:

*note: I am completely unfamiliar with other Fallout games.

1. I am a massive Oblivion fan (insanely modded of course), but I still played vanilla oblivion and enjoyed it immensely. As such I was optimistic for fallout 3. In comparison to Oblivion, Fallout 3 has worse environments, less immersive scenery and what I call 'ridiculous' wildlife. I mean, somehow I expected it to be more realistic. Super mutants look absurd and speak ridiculously. There are crab things and giants. I thought hundreds of years of radiation would have made things look, well, more deadspacey. Not make them stronger.

i thought fallout had great scenery and did pretty well (considering that this is a nuclear wasteland, not tamriel), and why are you complaining about mutated crabs? they actually managed to be scary every now and then. and yes the super mutants are supposed to speak ridiculously.

2. Retrofuturism: This is purely personal taste but the I can't stand the 1950s theme of the game. I mean, I understood it, I figured the bombs fell in the 1950s. But when I was informed the bombs sometime in our future in made no sense whatsoever. I just don't get the 1950's theme when culture developed way more past the 50s.

the 1950's setting was a breaeth of fresh air from all the other generic futuristic settings that litter the gaming-world.

3. The voice acting is worse than oblivions, and that's saying something.

WHAT?!

4. I CANT JOIN THE BAD GUYS!!!! I completely agreed with what the enclave was doing, screw the irradiated and save what's left of the world. But you can't join them, what's up with that?!?!
Oblivion had so many factions to join, you could really play how you wanted to. That brings me to 5.

you can join the slavers and also the talon company. it seems you haven't played the actual game.

5. Ok, seriously, who thinks that the 'Brotherhood of Steel' is a cool name? It sucks. Its an awful name for the people you have to join. It reminds me of the homosexual steel mill workers from 'The Simpsons'.

brotherhood of steel IS a cool name, why are you even playing fallout when you dislike EVERY single bit that made the fallout series original.

6. This is a pet hate but; in any game with guns: THERE SHOULD BE IRONSIGHTS!!!!! I get so annoyed when I right click to raise the gun to my eye level and it doesn't happen. That is such a big immersion killer for me. I know its not an FPS..... but still, it drives me insane. Any good game with guns has sights of some kind. And snipers don't count, I need that ability for all weapons except the obvious ones (big ones). EH!

are you playing the console or PC version? cause on the PC, you HAVE ironsight.

7. I couldn't get immersed in the story because I had discovered within 2 hours of the game that its setting was so ridiculous that I just didn't care. Sure I was mildly impressed with the tutorial and saw some realism ( I think) in the poorly named RAD ROACHES but when you get outside...the guns have no sights and the environment is insanely dull.
Yes I blew up megaton, and thought it was boring. Then I killed everyone in that tower because I didn't care. The story just didn't pull me in, it may have worked wonders for you, but for me it was all too far fetched.

WHATS SO RIDICULOUS WITH THE STORY!!!!!!!!
the story is great and immersive.
I will say that one of the few parts of the game I liked was in the virtual reality land with your dog dad, but that got boring quickly too.

In conclusion, I don't like Fallout 3, I really, really don't. I'm sure people will flame me or whatever but remember this is purely personal opinion.[/quote]
again, why are you playing fallout 3 when you "don't get" the environment, the setting, and basically everything about the fallout series.[/quote]

1.
Well and trees are supposed to beone of the first things back... plus it plays on all the radiated monsters from the 80s and hell even the kaiju insane impossible creatures from fiction...

2.
SO Why in the hell did you pick this game up... was it cause of the comapany

3.
most video game voice acting sucks

4.
they wont let you join cause your unpure

5.
because they are pretty much a brotherhood who worships steel.....

6. frankly i love not having the cursor in the middle of the screen... hell one of my favorite parts of mgs 3 was not have the thing in the middle

7. .... really really... my god you must....wow.. not gonna continue..seriously tho how did you not get immersed

ok now that i responded to yours.... ill be honest fallout 3 is my least favorite of all of them... yeah i love the game... but im a huge fan of the series....[[its why i even bought the special edition one.. got the lunchbox and bobble head]].. ive beaten fallout 1-2 and tactics and played van buren... the world is amazing and what disappointed me with this one was... the stuff i couldn't do anymore.. i couldnt become a porn star... i couldn't kill everyone kids included... but still i enjoyed it
and this fallout as with the others.. i always have several characters...
i find the world very easy to get into i love the deco... and come on how can you not love beating a guy to death with a bat.. why a cheerful song from the 40s plays in the background
and hell i plan on buying vegas.. even if my system cant handle it... why... so i can have it... wish i could find non digital copies of fallout 1 and tactics.. number 2 is safety stored away
oh and ill be honest i never played oblivion...

I can`t help but notice both of you have fallout avatars...

 

[sneak_copter]

Fallout 3 has Liam Neeson.

Yes..... and.... are you trying to say Liam Neeson is talented?!

 

[Lemmekickyourteeth]

Guess who doesn't give a shit if you like Fallout or not? Us. Seriously, why make a thread with the pure intentions to get flamed?

 

[Pimppeter2]

i love Fallout 3 for most of the reasons you hate it

but i hate Oblivion because i think fantasy setting are ridicules

You love fallout 3 because of shitty voice acting?

Also, what's ridicules about a fantasy setting!

 

[Xyphon]

Lets be clear, I don't like Fallout 3. Where ever it fell out of, it wasn't a nice place. But allow to express my reasons:

*note: I am completely unfamiliar with other Fallout games.

1. I am a massive Oblivion fan (insanely modded of course), but I still played vanilla oblivion and enjoyed it immensely. As such I was optimistic for fallout 3. In comparison to Oblivion, Fallout 3 has worse environments, less immersive scenery and what I call 'ridiculous' wildlife. I mean, somehow I expected it to be more realistic. Super mutants look absurd and speak ridiculously. There are crab things and giants. I thought hundreds of years of radiation would have made things look, well, more deadspacey. Not make them stronger.

Response: Are you kidding me? Please be kidding! It's a POST OPOCOLYPTIC WORLD! Of COURSE the enviornments aren't going to be awesome. EVERYTHING WAS BLOWN INTO ATOMS! How could you say it isn't realistic? Can you look into the future and see what the massive amount of radiation can do to an animal?

2. Retrofuturism: This is purely personal taste but the I can't stand the 1950s theme of the game. I mean, I understood it, I figured the bombs fell in the 1950s. But when I was informed the bombs sometime in our future in made no sense whatsoever. I just don't get the 1950's theme when culture developed way more past the 50s.

The bombs dropped around the 50's. Due to the bombs and everybody going underground, the culture stayed the same. You can't develop a whole new culture while underground, plus you wouldn't be worrying about culture while searching for food and clean water.

3. The voice acting is worse than oblivions, and that's saying something.

Response: In a way I agree with this, yet in a way I don't. The developers have a set budget and time limit to get the game done. The budget is spent more on the gameplay than the voice acting. Not many people pay attention to voice acting, anyway.

4. I CANT JOIN THE BAD GUYS!!!! I completely agreed with what the enclave was doing, screw the irradiated and save what's left of the world. But you can't join them, what's up with that?!?!
Oblivion had so many factions to join, you could really play how you wanted to. That brings me to 5.

Response: I agree. I would have LOVED to be able to join The Brotherhood of Steel.

5. Ok, seriously, who thinks that the 'Brotherhood of Steel' is a cool name? It sucks. Its an awful name for the people you have to join. It reminds me of the homosexual steel mill workers from 'The Simpsons'.

Response: I doubt you would be worried about your faction name while knee deep in Super Mutants.

6. This is a pet hate but; in any game with guns: THERE SHOULD BE IRONSIGHTS!!!!! I get so annoyed when I right click to raise the gun to my eye level and it doesn't happen. That is such a big immersion killer for me. I know its not an FPS..... but still, it drives me insane. Any good game with guns has sights of some kind. And snipers don't count, I need that ability for all weapons except the obvious ones (big ones). EH!

No response.

7. I couldn't get immersed in the story because I had discovered within 2 hours of the game that its setting was so ridiculous that I just didn't care. Sure I was mildly impressed with the tutorial and saw some realism ( I think) in the poorly named RAD ROACHES but when you get outside...the guns have no sights and the environment is insanely dull.
Yes I blew up megaton, and thought it was boring. Then I killed everyone in that tower because I didn't care. The story just didn't pull me in, it may have worked wonders for you, but for me it was all too far fetched.

Response: The game wasn't based entirely on the story. Just like Oblivion, the developers made it more focused on exploring and gameplay.

I will say that one of the few parts of the game I liked was in the virtual reality land with your dog dad, but that got boring quickly too.

In conclusion, I don't like Fallout 3, I really, really don't. I'm sure people will flame me or whatever but remember this is purely personal opinion.

 

[APPCRASH]

Fallout 3 has Liam Neeson.

Yes..... and.... are you trying to say Liam Neeson is talented?!

By having a sexy voice, yes, I do think he is talented.

 

[Kogarian]

I liked both, so I can't see your point of voice with the voice acting. Oblivion's voice acting was sad...