Why i hate fallout 3.

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lava_lamp

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pimppeter2 said:
lava_lamp said:
i love Fallout 3 for most of the reasons you hate it

but i hate Oblivion because i think fantasy setting are ridicules
You love fallout 3 because of shitty voice acting?

Also, what's ridicules about a fantasy setting!
may you go back and read the part that says most reasons please, and besides oblivion had bad voice acting too

and i just personally don't like fantasy setting because "oh boy i get to go on a quest with a wizard to save the kingdom!" bullshit

i find a post apocalyptic 50's style setting, very intriguing though
 

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lava_lamp said:
pimppeter2 said:
lava_lamp said:
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may you go back and read the part that says most reasons please, and besides oblivion had bad voice acting too

and i just personally don't like fantasy setting because "oh boy i get to go on a quest with a wizard to save the kingdom!" bullshit

i find a post apocalyptic 50's style setting, very intriguing though
I was just wanking your chain!

Oblivion isn't really like that if you give it a try
But, everyone to their own taste right!
 

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I find it funny I ahve the exact feeling for Oblivion, I much perfered Fallout3 just seems far more simple and easy to get into.

Oblivion just had an overload effect on me.. just so much to learn and discover I kept getting distracted with sidequests thinking im missing major areas of the game.
 

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1. The setting is carried over from the older Fallout games, not really Fallout 3's fault here.

2. I thought the atmosphere in the game was amazing, and I'm sure there's some interesting explanation out there that will tell you why it was like the '50s, but I don't really feel like finding it for you. Go look on the Vault Wiki.

3. Maybe the voice acting isn't all that great, but at least there's a lot more variety. Three Dog, James, and President Eden are great.

4. This is a genuine flaw. I would have liked to start a new character and join the bad guys.

5. Brotherhood of Steel is also from previous Fallout games.

6. I don't know why this bothered you so much.

7. Eh, if you didn't like the story, you didn't like the story. Bethsoft can't make everyone happy.
 

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Oblivion sucked, and all of these complaints are just your personal taste, and let me continue by saying that you have bad taste.


Let me rant based on your post here..

STOP ASKING FOR REALISM IN GAMES, REAL LIFE IS A VERY BORING, VERY HORRIBLE PLACE. If I wanted realism i'd play the god damned Sims and recreate my own pathetic life of dead end worker bee. Yes, the Fallout universe is completely batshit crazy and unrealistic and that is why I like it. I like the nuclear apocalypse and being immersed into a world of gibbering flesh rotten ghouls and gigantic irradiated monsters trying to eat my giblets.
 

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Ok... so you didn't like it... Don't play it... I personally think that all of your problems have to do with personal taste, not game structure. Stop bitching and play something else.
 

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Fallout 3 was good, but it didn't grab me like it did some of my friends. I guess I just can't get into games like Fallout and Oblivion.
 

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I only have one thing to say about your argument. Its about the 1950's portion. (In the story, the nukes drop in 2077 btw, im a nerd about this game :p) Todd Howard said he wanted to stay true to the other 2 Fallout games, which you stated you hadnt played, and i understand, im just clearing it up for you. The other 2 games had the 1950's cliche, so Todd Howard wanted to keep true to that theme.
 

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APPCRASH said:
Fallout 3 has Liam Neeson.
enough said. but, i thought it was great. i found myself dreading the ending, cause i knew i couldnt play after that. I've been playing on the ps3, so dlc doesnt come out until next week, but im excited.
 

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You know I want to address the name point lets compare names of major factions in the game shall we:

Fallout 3:
The Enclave
The Brotherhood of Steel

Oblivion:
The Dark Brotherhood
The Fighters Guild
The Arcane University
The Arena

I am not including any mods in this but the names in oblivion follow a horrible formula of 'What is it? Then that is what we will call it', I am a major Oblivion fan but come on at least Fallout names are actual names not a job description.
 

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This is one of my favourite games. And no i havent played any other fallout game, nor do i really have any interest in them. Thats the beauty of it, i dont need to play them to enjoy this game. I though it was really immerssive actually. I cant stop playing it

And dam it im getting sick of people saying crap like "i played the previous games therefore i know better and weather its shit/good" Stuff ya, i dont care if u played the other games, my opinion is vaild because i choose to hand over the money and play the dam thing.

Sorry about that, its been bugging me for ages tho...
He said he hadnt played the previous games....
I have played a bit of Fallout Tactics so am not entirely qualified to say this but, I really dont see you can compare the two. For me fallout failed on its own flaws (and the way it stole every perk from the originals, but thats only very minor)
Yeh, i never intended it towards the OP, i probablly should have cleared that up before i went rage-post
 

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2 main reasons people hate Fallout 3:

1. It's nothing like Oblivion which is the reason I bought it.
2. It's to much like Oblivion which was terrible, Morrowind FTW!

Honorable mention complaint:

Its nothing like the first two Fallout Games.

The developers clearly stated years ago before it even came out, that Fallout 3 should not be compared to Oblivion because they are not meant to be similar. They stated that Fallout 3 is not going to be, or meant to be "Oblivion with guns." And the fact that it's nothing like its two predecessors is a dumb argument. Sure the first two were great and will be remembered as such, but they are completely out dated. Do you know any form of technology that or entertainment that will stick to what it did ten years ago... don't answer, because I already know it's a big fat negative.
 

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quiet_samurai said:
2 main reasons people hate Fallout 3:

1. It's nothing like Oblivion which is the reason I bought it.
2. It's to much like Oblivion which was terrible, Morrowind FTW!

Honorable mention complaint:

Its nothing like the first two Fallout Games.

The developers clearly stated years ago before it even came out, that Fallout 3 should not be compared to Oblivion because they are not meant to be similar. They stated that Fallout 3 is not going to be, or meant to be "Oblivion with guns." And the fact that it's nothing like its two predecessors is a dumb argument. Sure the first two were great and will be remembered as such, but they are completely out dated. Do you know any form of technology that or entertainment that will stick to what it did ten years ago... don't answer, because I already know it's a big fat negative.
VHS cassette tapes were basically the same technology for the 20 or so years they were in widespread use...

CDs haven't changed much either...
 

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i am a fan off both of the games i wouldnt say am the biggest fan but i enjoyed playing them and got hours of good play time out of them but i think that the voice acting in fallout 3 was actaully better than in obivion and like what it said on zero punctuation said the maps look pritty much the same just painted a defferent colour and has been given some blown up builds around and they both have big craps in them so u cant say owet about the craps because there in both games

the super mutants look abit like a gaint orks to me more than anything but i still think they look cool and pritty badass and the hole 1950's style of the game gave it a certian vintage and charm towards it and when you listerning to the radio before you reach the station he talks about a lone adventure and it feels pritty cool like year am famous already lol

i agree with the hole aiming thing but it didnt bother me to much i did have to get ust to it though because my mind would think am playing a defferent game and when i go to aim it dosent work but u start to get ust to it

but am not saying fallout is better than oblivion they both have there faults but at the end of the game what game dosent nothing is perfect its just up to use to see the good that is the game rather than trying to wait for the holy grail of games to come because it never is.
 

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OuroborosChoked said:
quiet_samurai said:
2 main reasons people hate Fallout 3:

1. It's nothing like Oblivion which is the reason I bought it.
2. It's to much like Oblivion which was terrible, Morrowind FTW!

Honorable mention complaint:

Its nothing like the first two Fallout Games.

The developers clearly stated years ago before it even came out, that Fallout 3 should not be compared to Oblivion because they are not meant to be similar. They stated that Fallout 3 is not going to be, or meant to be "Oblivion with guns." And the fact that it's nothing like its two predecessors is a dumb argument. Sure the first two were great and will be remembered as such, but they are completely out dated. Do you know any form of technology that or entertainment that will stick to what it did ten years ago... don't answer, because I already know it's a big fat negative.
VHS cassette tapes were basically the same technology for the 20 or so years they were in widespread use...

CDs haven't changed much either...

Neither have toasters really huh? Ok, fair enough. I meant gaming technology though.
 

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I've played both games Fallout 3 to the shitty ending and oblivion to about 20%.

The question is now why? Why did you play through all of Fallout 3 (and of most the side missions) and why did you stop at 20%.

Oblivion seems to me really really like a 40+ hour D and D that bores through your skull like something out of Turok.

Fallout 3 seems like Oblivion's older brother who's into the 50's and a really fucked up mess.

The younger being Oblivion lives in the basement and loves grinding (such as Wow) and has lots of demons in his D and D games .

While Fallout 3 has a more thoughtful well...everything seems more thought out and done better than Oblivion through both look the same and play close to the same.

Basically Fallout 3 = more for the old fans and for people who love Bioshock .
And Oblivion = is more for people who love WoW or something close to that .

P.S Sorry for the long ass writing.
 

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Probably been picked over to death but I'll have my go, if only to ward off boredom for a bit. Be warned, I'm vindictive and condescending.
DalekJaas said:
I am completely unfamiliar with other Fallout games.
First problem. Correctly stated. I feel you do need a background of the games to really know what's going on, such being THE POINT OF A SEQUEL. But nevertheless...

1. I am a massive Oblivion fan (insanely modded of course), but I still played vanilla oblivion and enjoyed it immensely. As such I was optimistic for fallout 3. In comparison to Oblivion, Fallout 3 has worse environments, less immersive scenery and what I call 'ridiculous' wildlife. I mean, somehow I expected it to be more realistic.
Okay. Perhaps you are too stuck in Medieval to really enjoy it? To each their own. I feel kinda opposite of your view here. I felt the terrain in Fallout 3 was more diversified than Oblivion. Environment is actually pretty strong if you turn the blasted radio off. The subtle background music (though bearing a suspicious likeness to the music of Oblivion) and ambiance noise do help build it up. Nothing creeps me out as much as going into an abandoned vault.

I love how you complain about wildlife not being more like a High Fantasy game.

Super mutants look absurd and speak ridiculously. There are crab things and giants. I thought hundreds of years of radiation would have made things look, well, more deadspacey. Not make them stronger.
Prior knowledge required. Super mutants are spawned from FEV (hooray for Mariposa,) which enhances muscle mass but lower intelligence.

2. Retrofuturism: This is purely personal taste but the I can't stand the 1950s theme of the game. I mean, I understood it, I figured the bombs fell in the 1950s. But when I was informed the bombs sometime in our future in made no sense whatsoever. I just don't get the 1950's theme when culture developed way more past the 50s.
I'm going to laugh when you say you like Bioshock.

3. The voice acting is worse than oblivions, and that's saying something.
Eh. Hard to tell. More diverse though.

4. I CANT JOIN THE BAD GUYS!!!! I completely agreed with what the enclave was doing, screw the irradiated and save what's left of the world. But you can't join them, what's up with that?!?!
Oblivion had so many factions to join, you could really play how you wanted to. That brings me to 5.
Yes. I didn't like the fact I got shoehorned into the Brotherhood. But hey, it's not like you got to ally with Mehrunes Dagon. All you got to do there was impersonate a member to steal the book.

5. Ok, seriously, who thinks that the 'Brotherhood of Steel' is a cool name? It sucks. Its an awful name for the people you have to join. It reminds me of the homosexual steel mill workers from 'The Simpsons'.
I for one think it is pretty nice. Not quite as cool as "The Enclave," but whatever. Perhaps it's the fact I grew up with the earlier version: the Mutant hating technophiles. Besides, it seems a little more creative that "The Fighter's Guild" or "The Mage's Guild." Wait, what's that? The Thieves Guild? Astounding.

6. This is a pet hate but; in any game with guns: THERE SHOULD BE IRONSIGHTS!!!!! I get so annoyed when I right click to raise the gun to my eye level and it doesn't happen. That is such a big immersion killer for me. I know its not an FPS..... but still, it drives me insane. Any good game with guns has sights of some kind. And snipers don't count, I need that ability for all weapons except the obvious ones (big ones). EH!
Eh, I agree with you here. I do like iron sighting a gun.

7. I couldn't get immersed in the story because I had discovered within 2 hours of the game that its setting was so ridiculous that I just didn't care. Sure I was mildly impressed with the tutorial and saw some realism ( I think) in the poorly named RAD ROACHES but when you get outside...the guns have no sights and the environment is insanely dull.
You started out strong. You know a game has a bad ending when they release DLC to completely change it. The 'insanely dull' part I find a bit hard to swallow when I remember you are comparing it to Oblivion. What was more interesting? The tree-riddled field, the forest, or the vaguely swamp-like forest?

Yes I blew up megaton, and thought it was boring. Then I killed everyone in that tower because I didn't care. The story just didn't pull me in, it may have worked wonders for you, but for me it was all too far fetched.
Arbitrary morals for the win! The writing is awful (for both games really.) Perhaps I too couldn't believe nuclear devastation could occur in that way. It's always more plausible for a giant extra-dimensional god to just appear to destroy the world because... he can?

I will say that one of the few parts of the game I liked was in the virtual reality land with your dog dad, but that got boring quickly too.
Yep, agreeing here.

In conclusion, I don't like Fallout 3, I really, really don't. I'm sure people will flame me or whatever but remember this is purely personal opinion.
Well to each their own. Personally if I didn't want to get flamed, I would start with something softer for a title (My Honest Opinion of Fallout 3 in Comparison to Oblivion.) I'd also make an attempt to maintain some semblance of spelling and grammar. There are a few Grammar Nazi's here. I would try to make my supports sound and tight, and perhaps not open with a statement that ruins the entire validity of the following essay.
 

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I'm just going to address only a few of your points.
DalekJaas said:
2. Retrofuturism: This is purely personal taste but the I can't stand the 1950s theme of the game. I mean, I understood it, I figured the bombs fell in the 1950s. But when I was informed the bombs sometime in our future in made no sense whatsoever. I just don't get the 1950's theme when culture developed way more past the 50s.
This is like someone saying that sushi is bad because they eat it without knowing it was raw fish. If you didn't understand it, it's your own fault for not exploring the lore.

5. Ok, seriously, who thinks that the 'Brotherhood of Steel' is a cool name? It sucks. Its an awful name for the people you have to join. It reminds me of the homosexual steel mill workers from 'The Simpsons'.
They didn't create the name. Why don't you find a Fallout forum and they'll inform you of why they're named that.

6. This is a pet hate but; in any game with guns: THERE SHOULD BE IRONSIGHTS!!!!! I get so annoyed when I right click to raise the gun to my eye level and it doesn't happen. That is such a big immersion killer for me. I know its not an FPS..... but still, it drives me insane. Any good game with guns has sights of some kind. And snipers don't count, I need that ability for all weapons except the obvious ones (big ones). EH!
This is completely legit.

Now the only reason I don't still own Fallout 3 was not mentioned, the fact there will most likely be $60 worth of DLC out for it, which I can get with the game of the year edition (which will probably be $60 anyway).

EDIT:
quiet_samurai said:
2. It's to much like Oblivion which was terrible, Morrowind FTW!
Best argument for why Fallout 3 is bad in this whole thread. Morrowind-5!
 

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DalekJaas said:
2. Retrofuturism: This is purely personal taste but the I can't stand the 1950s theme of the game. I mean, I understood it, I figured the bombs fell in the 1950s. But when I was informed the bombs sometime in our future in made no sense whatsoever. I just don't get the 1950's theme when culture developed way more past the 50s.
It happened in a parallel world, so it's supposed to be something we can recognize and have a general understanding of, but not something that has ever existed. You can't beat the music on Galaxy News Radio.