A response I was hoping for.[/quote]scnj said:
Translation: Yay, this person kinda agreed with me, although not for the reasons I gave. Their opinion matters more to me! Hi, new best friend!
Why I hate valve games. (A rant of sorts)
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Translation: Yay, this person kinda agreed with me, although not for the reasons I gave. Their opinion matters more to me! Hi, new best friend!
Translation: Yay, this person kinda agreed with me, although not for the reasons I gave. Their opinion matters more to me! Hi, new best friend![/quote]Titanguy654 said:
Yep keep at it man!
Just to reinforce the whole Valve = Pixar thing, I think this might be akin to the people who hate on Pixar saying that they always follow the same pattern and yaddayaddayadda; when in reality everyone does it, and percieved shitality is only due to the abhorrently unrealistic expectations that Pixar/Valve sets (due to both quality and hype).
That and it's cool to hate things that everyone else likes (and while it's important to note that this should not EVER EVER EVER be used to reinforce one's point as it isn't backed up by anything and goes little beyond saying "I'm right because. Just because.", this would seem to be the case here, due to the lack of any coherent argument other than 'old engine is old'.)
That and it's cool to hate things that everyone else likes (and while it's important to note that this should not EVER EVER EVER be used to reinforce one's point as it isn't backed up by anything and goes little beyond saying "I'm right because. Just because.", this would seem to be the case here, due to the lack of any coherent argument other than 'old engine is old'.)
Gameplay is more important than graphics. If you do not feel that way then I feel sorry for you you poor dumb bastard.
Whats so bad about getting as much as you possibly can out of an extraordinarily flexible engine. If they updated engines every year like certain other franchises I could name then we might have HLE3 but we wouldn't have Team Fortress 2, Gary's mod, Left 4 Dead, and Portal. Those are all damn good games and they kick ass out of Crysis any day.
Whats so bad about getting as much as you possibly can out of an extraordinarily flexible engine. If they updated engines every year like certain other franchises I could name then we might have HLE3 but we wouldn't have Team Fortress 2, Gary's mod, Left 4 Dead, and Portal. Those are all damn good games and they kick ass out of Crysis any day.
Um. Okay. Someone screwed up the quote pyramid. Basically, I think that Valve games are overrated because they don't play very well. I went into some detail in another thread a couple of days ago, but an example of what I mean is in the vehicle sections. Half-Life 2 came out in 2004, but the vehicle sections had already been done better in Halo in 2001. Valve's vehicles control horribly, due to the tank controls they force on the player because they're unwilling to use the much more durable third person vehicle perspective.
I get that staying in first person adds immersion, but I don't want it at the cost of my fun. I went for a second playthrough of HL2 but stopped at Water Hazard, because I literally couldn't be bothered wrestling with that stupid boat.
I get that staying in first person adds immersion, but I don't want it at the cost of my fun. I went for a second playthrough of HL2 but stopped at Water Hazard, because I literally couldn't be bothered wrestling with that stupid boat.
You wouldn't understand, by the look of your avatar, I can see that you're a Valve fan. Therefore, you're biased. I am not biased, because I'm infallible. Therefore, you're argument is invalid. Because there is no argument to face mine, I must be right.Soylent Bacon said:
I'm doing internet debating right guys?
I'm willing to admit that graphics ruing the immersion some. SOME. But, though I may dislike Half-Life 2, I can say it's a good game. Well designed and all that. And the rest of Valve's lineup is pretty damn good too. I love Left 4 Dead, both of them, and Portal was amazing. Counter-strike is a cult at this point, so I can't say anything bad about them for fear of their assaults against my own middle toes, but for it's time it was amazing.
But everyone's entitled to their opinion...
But everyone's entitled to their opinion...
I for one am glad that Valve hasn't updated their graphics because I, as an unemployed PC gamer, do not have enough money to fork over $2000 just to play games, they keep their graphics low and that way people like me can still play them and enjoy them.
They will in a couple minutes ... in Valve time.jonathan19 said:Talk to valve about itDarzen said:
*twilight zone music*
