Why is America so awesome?

[Puppeteer Putin]

I don't think America is awesome,but I would love to visit because it seems to harbour such err interesting people, oh and crazy Christians must meet them and then argue with them. Shine on you crazy americans

Hate to say this, but you can find crazy Christians just about anywhere.

Have you met a Texan before? I almost had my arse handed to me for making a political observation about democrats. Oh and the person that was going to hand said arse was a Golfer from at a high end country club. It was when good ol' Condoleezza Rice was being questioned before she took office. Not hate speech, just a bad experience.

I REALLY want to work in New York someday, so... let hope that when the job opportunity arises they don't find this post and then spread the news story "'Putin' - new Smithsonian Director". That would not go down well.

 

[Dahemo]

As someone in the UK, I think the US is awesome because you just seem to be having more fun. Better weather, more space, more money, we all want some of that...

 

[CZTM]

I love America because it's my home, and because it's where I was raised and where I plan on raising my kids. Most of the stuff people see in the media and on television are horrible stereotypes anyway, but that's the case with every country and every race of people. Sure, America has her problems, but then again, what countries don't have problems?

 

[The Rusk]

ok now bear in mind I am about to simply argue for the sake of argument now. As I said I like America, but still...here we go. (put's asshole hat on)

I think America is awesome because we kept the free world free from Communist oppression for 60 years

I think America is awesome because we (The selfish pricks that we are) give out more money than any foreign government

I think America is awesome because there is a reason why the rest of the world comes HERE to study

I think America is awesome because we are worried that we are no longer doing HALF of the worlds science

I think America is awesome because we own up to what we do

I think America is awesome because we are an incredibly diverse people, both ideologically and racially. Nowhere else in the world can you experience the vast array of cultures that are present in the US

I think America is awesome because our people can slander our president and not get sent to jail for it

I think America is awesome because we provide defense systems to countries that would have to go without if we weren't here (patriot missiles in poland.... etc)

I think America is awesome because all of those nutjobs who promised their neighbours that they would move to Canada if Bush won, are still here.

I think America is awesome because we do not have a socialized health care system, so innovation is allowed to continue, unlike countries like Canada where there are enormous waiting lists for basic services (One Canadian cancer patient, this was in Discover magazine, was on a 6 month waiting list for an MRI. His doctor told him that he would be dead in 5 months. So, what did he do? He hopped on a plane to the US, and had his MRI in 3 days. Thats progress.)

America is the most hated country in the world, because we aren't afraid of stepping on a few toes to achieve what is usually best for everyone. Have we made mistakes? Hell yes! We fuck up all the time. The difference is that even though the rest of the "Civilized World" treats us as unclean gun toting hicks, we honestly don't give a shit, and go ahead fighting the good fight. What the hell have the Europeans enlightened Europeans done in Darfur: answer, they haven't lifted a damn finger! I absolutely love all of the people posting in this thread who say that they hate America. Well, if you hate it so much, leave, because the grass is always greener on the other side of the hill!

Right.

You called Communism 'oppressive' so you either have the american flag tattooed to your arse or your middle name is America. Communism is an ideology of a classless structure, one that works AGAINST oppression. And since when has America protected the world from communism?

You give out more money than any other foreign government because you are the richest nation on earth. However there are many promised obligations and responsibilities that you have not followed through.

The reason they go to you to study is probably because they couldn't get into Oxford.

You don't own up to what you do. And if you do, then it takes years of protest and public outcry, or simply because you have no choice but to do so. Look how long it took for Bush to say what he did in Iraq was wrong, and it wasn't like a public declaration either, he kind of left it as a passing comment. And don't even get me started on the Iran-Contra Affair.

There is somewhere else where you can experience such a diverse array of cultures, it's called great Britain, or hell, let's just go for London.

There are many places you slander your president/prime minister and get away with it, London for one, Italy for another.

The science part is due to the funds that you own, that is why you ended up doing such a large percentage, and that is a good thing after all.

As for the healthcare part, isn't Cuba's far better than your's, Britains, or anyone elses for that matter?

The missiles in Poland are simply there to flex the American muscle, because they simply want to rattle some cages on the Russian front, to me the protection of poland is a byproduct. The chances of Russia invading poland are low, the last time someone invaded poland they got their arse handed to them, and publicly. If they were invaded now many major countries would go there to help. What stopped America from giving them the financial power and means to defend themselves, rather than openly installing missiles to increase tension?

No one is shooting said nutjobs, it's not like their lives are in danger, plus this is hardly a valid comment, there are people who would say that they would leave their country for various reasons, and are still there, part of the reason being because they aren't keen on drastic change.

What tends to happen is that the 'stepping on a few toes' ends up being violation of international law, and murdering millions for something that is better in theory, but in practice makes things worse.

It is one thing to like America, but the weapons-grade Jack-assery that you appear to be showing in that post is something I can't sit idly by and let stay unscrutinised.

Damn. I was going to pull apart his argument before I saw your post. I pretty much agree with most of what you said. The phrase "communist oppression" made me laugh aswell

 

[L33tsauce_Marty]

ok now bear in mind I am about to simply argue for the sake of argument now. As I said I like America, but still...here we go. (put's asshole hat on)



Right.

You called Communism 'oppressive' so you either have the american flag tattooed to your arse or your middle name is America. Communism is an ideology of a classless structure, one that works AGAINST oppression. And since when has America protected the world from communism?

You give out more money than any other foreign government because you are the richest nation on earth. However there are many promised obligations and responsibilities that you have not followed through.

The reason they go to you to study is probably because they couldn't get into Oxford.

You don't own up to what you do. And if you do, then it takes years of protest and public outcry, or simply because you have no choice but to do so. Look how long it took for Bush to say what he did in Iraq was wrong, and it wasn't like a public declaration either, he kind of left it as a passing comment. And don't even get me started on the Iran-Contra Affair.

There is somewhere else where you can experience such a diverse array of cultures, it's called great Britain, or hell, let's just go for London.

There are many places you slander your president/prime minister and get away with it, London for one, Italy for another.

The science part is due to the funds that you own, that is why you ended up doing such a large percentage, and that is a good thing after all.

As for the healthcare part, isn't Cuba's far better than your's, Britains, or anyone elses for that matter?

The missiles in Poland are simply there to flex the American muscle, because they simply want to rattle some cages on the Russian front, to me the protection of poland is a byproduct. The chances of Russia invading poland are low, the last time someone invaded poland they got their arse handed to them, and publicly. If they were invaded now many major countries would go there to help. What stopped America from giving them the financial power and means to defend themselves, rather than openly installing missiles to increase tension?

No one is shooting said nutjobs, it's not like their lives are in danger, plus this is hardly a valid comment, there are people who would say that they would leave their country for various reasons, and are still there, part of the reason being because they aren't keen on drastic change.

What tends to happen is that the 'stepping on a few toes' ends up being violation of international law, and murdering millions for something that is better in theory, but in practice makes things worse.

It is one thing to like America, but the weapons-grade Jack-assery that you appear to be showing in that post is something I can't sit idly by and let stay unscrutinised.

1. Oh yeah North Korea is working out quite well.

2. Don't act like where you are from is poor, you can give out money to.

3. That isn't the point of what he was talking about.

4. The point is you CAN do those things, because if you haven't noticed in some places you can't.

5. Why would I want to go to Oxford? I have perfectly fine Universities right here closer to me, and maybe I will being a citizen of Poland and get it cheaper there.

6. Look at Japan in 1945.

7. People whine other places.

8. Name one example.

 

[LoopyDood]

Also, one still has not answered the question:

What is the deal with being patriotic or proud to be an American? Why do people always say 'I am proud to be an American'?

I might just start a thread if one does not exist.

Because being told to think that has been hammered into them since they were born. It was and still is done by the government as well as the media. In other words, the rich and the powerful, the only ones truly benefiting from America's corporate system. Also, they're the only ones who have the power to do so. (They control the mass media and the government.)

It's just a vicious circle. The working class people in America are being shit on by the rich and they're taught to love it. They're caught in a perpetual rat race with the rich dangling "opportunity" in their faces, like that old cliche of dangling a carrot in front of a horse. All hail the mighty dollar.

 

[The Rusk]

I think America is awesome because it's the best country in the world to be a gamer in.

I think America is awesome because we are the only country to love the best sport in the world, football.

I think America is awesome because we have a section of government (the courts) that keep the idiots we elect to office in check.

I think America is awesome because we develop some awesome technology over here.

I think America is awesome because we have the best college system in the world.

I think America is awesome because, while it sometimes is a problem, we place much reverence on our freedoms, which I feel is important in order to maintain those freedoms.

Just a few reasons why I think my country is awesome. Not that it doesn't have it's own fair share of problems though...

One of your points I would completely disagree with. From what I know, America's college system is by far one of the most corrupt college systems in the world. It doesn't matter how smart someone is, if they don't have the money to get into the top end universities/colleges then they're not going to. It's a system that basically helps the rich people stay rich.

Just another little thing I wanted to ask was whether or not you've watched any rugby? If I'm being honest I've never sat down to watch a game of American football, but from what I've seen it seems fairly similar to rugby, minus all the padding and helmets.

 

[Milkatron]

6. We are so fucking fat.

Believe it or not Australia overtook America last year as the fattest nation in the world! Go us!

Really? Regardless, we're still huge. The only reason you overtook us is because we have anorexics and bulimics (sp?) like you wouldn't believe (or might, since I haven't been to Australia)

 

[runtheplacered]

From day 1 Americans are brainwashed that they are the best country in the history of the Earth.

Incorrect.

 

[runtheplacered]

themselves. they are fat!

americans are multicultural all right. they eat German food, practice French adultery, and all weigh as much as vatican city.

Uhhh.. your country is rated more obese then America. That's a fact. Now, why don't be a good little Australian, sit down, grab a fork, and eat those words. Eat them right up. You little porker.

In all reality, I couldn't care less what country is rated more obese then the other, but your comment was shining with such an illuminating ignorance, that I couldn't help myself but call you out on it.

 

[ChromeAlchemist]

ok now bear in mind I am about to simply argue for the sake of argument now. As I said I like America, but still...here we go. (put's asshole hat on)



Right.

You called Communism 'oppressive' so you either have the american flag tattooed to your arse or your middle name is America. Communism is an ideology of a classless structure, one that works AGAINST oppression. And since when has America protected the world from communism?

You give out more money than any other foreign government because you are the richest nation on earth. However there are many promised obligations and responsibilities that you have not followed through.

The reason they go to you to study is probably because they couldn't get into Oxford.

You don't own up to what you do. And if you do, then it takes years of protest and public outcry, or simply because you have no choice but to do so. Look how long it took for Bush to say what he did in Iraq was wrong, and it wasn't like a public declaration either, he kind of left it as a passing comment. And don't even get me started on the Iran-Contra Affair.

There is somewhere else where you can experience such a diverse array of cultures, it's called great Britain, or hell, let's just go for London.

There are many places you slander your president/prime minister and get away with it, London for one, Italy for another.

The science part is due to the funds that you own, that is why you ended up doing such a large percentage, and that is a good thing after all.

As for the healthcare part, isn't Cuba's far better than your's, Britains, or anyone elses for that matter?

The missiles in Poland are simply there to flex the American muscle, because they simply want to rattle some cages on the Russian front, to me the protection of poland is a byproduct. The chances of Russia invading poland are low, the last time someone invaded poland they got their arse handed to them, and publicly. If they were invaded now many major countries would go there to help. What stopped America from giving them the financial power and means to defend themselves, rather than openly installing missiles to increase tension?

No one is shooting said nutjobs, it's not like their lives are in danger, plus this is hardly a valid comment, there are people who would say that they would leave their country for various reasons, and are still there, part of the reason being because they aren't keen on drastic change.

What tends to happen is that the 'stepping on a few toes' ends up being violation of international law, and murdering millions for something that is better in theory, but in practice makes things worse.

It is one thing to like America, but the weapons-grade Jack-assery that you appear to be showing in that post is something I can't sit idly by and let stay unscrutinised.

1. Oh yeah North Korea is working out quite well.

2. Don't act like where you are from is poor, you can give out money to.

3. That isn't the point of what he was talking about.

4. The point is you CAN do those things, because if you haven't noticed in some places you can't.

5. Why would I want to go to Oxford? I have perfectly fine Universities right here closer to me, and maybe I will being a citizen of Poland and get it cheaper there.

6. Look at Japan in 1945.

7. People whine other places.

8. Name one example.

I haven't numbered my point's, so I don't think you responded to all of them, so I will do this to what I think you have responded to.

1. That is the people running the communist ideology, not the ideology itself. And why did you choose North Korea? Why not Cuba? And cuba is one of the nations that Could have done a lot better had America not interfered (One example being the embargo) and is possibly one of the countries that disprove the whole 'communism is evil' nonsense that has gone around for long enough.

2.Who said where I am from, we do not give out money? because I sure didn't. And for your information we do.

3. I know, but the rest of the world does NOT go to america to study. How about some kind of citation before you throw claims like that around. Besides Why do so many Americans and other people come to Britain to Go to Oxford?

4. I don't understand what point this was aimed at. Please show me and I will respond accordingly.

5. Because Oxford is one of the best Universities in the world. I would assume that if all had your mentality then many universities would be quite empty.

6. Why?

7. What?

8. The Invasion of Grenada.

 

[John Stalvern]

I think ZorroFonzarelli has it down. The U.S. is such a big world player that it is a good place to heap on scorn and criticism of flaws that are not unique. People speak of our freedoms being taken, while we can loiter innocently on the streets without being heckled by police and can play the games we want, read the controversial books we take interest in. People say the 1st amendment is dead no longer active, while their own countries have little more than dodgy legislation that only defends their rights to a point. People say we are trundling towards a police state, apparently blind to laws being considered and enacted in their country, while other real authoritarian governments somehow cease to exist in their mind. Some say violence dominates our cities as chavs, skinheads, pushy muslims and drunken soccer fans run through their streets. If the U.S. does not aid beleaguered nations it is called selfish, inactive, as if it doesn't care for world affairs. If it sends its military to try and stabilize a violent scrap of land it is imperialistic and violent.
The United States has issues no different from any other nation. It may be better in some respects, and worse in others. What many who criticize need to remember is that they share the same problems, no matter what their misbegotten sense of intellectual nationalism tells them.

 

[ChromeAlchemist]

Also, one still has not answered the question:

What is the deal with being patriotic or proud to be an American? Why do people always say 'I am proud to be an American'?

I might just start a thread if one does not exist.

Because being told to think that has been hammered into them since they were born. It was and still is done by the government as well as the media. In other words, the rich and the powerful, the only ones truly benefiting from America's corporate system. Also, they're the only ones who have the power to do so. (They control the mass media and the government.)

It's just a vicious circle. The working class people in America are being shit on by the rich and they're taught to love it. They're caught in a perpetual rat race with the rich dangling "opportunity" in their faces, like that old cliche of dangling a carrot in front of a horse. All hail the mighty dollar.

Exactly correct. I will always choose capitalism over communism, but at the end of the day communism is more for the people, while capitalism relies of the exploitation of the poor, it is just the way it is.

 

[Flap Jack452]

Because of freedom and we have a black president (yay?)

 

[Oisnafas]

As for the healthcare part, isn't Cuba's far better than your's, Britains, or anyone elses for that matter?

how so? According to the WHO, we're ranked 34th overall. We're first in quality, selection, specialization,and a few others. we're ranked 54th in fairness. Healthcare prices here are supposedly too high for a good fairness rating. By extension, competition in the healthcare system isnt fair, either.

 

[Nevins]

One of your points I would completely disagree with. From what I know, America's college system is by far one of the most corrupt college systems in the world. It doesn't matter how smart someone is, if they don't have the money to get into the top end universities/colleges then they're not going to. It's a system that basically helps the rich people stay rich.

Just another little thing I wanted to ask was whether or not you've watched any rugby? If I'm being honest I've never sat down to watch a game of American football, but from what I've seen it seems fairly similar to rugby, minus all the padding and helmets.

1. I totally agree, Rugby is awesome. When I went to France, we watched the Parisian team (Primary Team color Hot Pink) get torn apart by Lyon, and even in their Hot Pink uniforms they still scared the shit out of me.

2. We do not have "The most corrupt college system in the world" Harvard, the biggest name college in the US, is giving 100% financial aid to students whose parental combined income is below a certain point (its something around like $200,000). If you have the brains, you can get all kinds of crazy scholarships over here. Also, the colleges that are so expensive are not always the ones that are the best. I know this first hand, as I am a senior graduating from HS this year and just went through the colossal headache that college apps are. Is the college system totally fair? No. Could it be better? Yes. Is it

a system that basically helps the rich people stay rich.

No, it is not.

In response to Chrome, the face of Communism and its proponents was the Soviet Union, arguably the most evil government that has ever existed. They killed more people than Hitler in the second world war, and accomplishment that Josef Stalin was probably very proud of.

If Cuba was so wonderful, why do thousands of Cubans attempt to float across the Atlantic on ramshackle rafts, risking their lives, to get too America? Please name me some communist or communist inspired governments that did not come to power with blood on their hands or restricting the rights of their citizens.

And correct me if I am wrong, but did you ask how the United States protected the world against Communism? How about the Cold War for starters? Do you think that Stalin, who brutally subjugated the eastern european states following the war, would have stopped where he had if the US had not been in the war?

Additionally, please don't use the "But they weren't really communists argument" because we all know that no nations were truly a Marxian Communist state.

 

[Aar0nDavenp0rt]

And here is one of the best reasons I can think of that we ARE awesome.
1. We aren't Canada.

Oh, low blow.
Isn't it ironic that you just demonstrated one of the reasons people hate Americans?

Yeah, I dunno why I said that. Apologies.

 

[Aar0nDavenp0rt]

And here is one of the best reasons I can think of that we ARE awesome.
1. We aren't Canada.

Oh, low blow.
Isn't it ironic that you just demonstrated one of the reasons people hate Americans?

I honestly don't see why people would hate Canada. I mean, look at it. It is one of the most unlikely places to start a war. Just like Australia.

I actually think it would be pretty epic is Canada and Australia went to war. I mean, no one would expect it.

But now I've lost my train of thought in my foolish desires.

Hehe, yeah. I have no personal dispute against Canada. It's a nice place. I retract that statement with apologies.

 

[Aar0nDavenp0rt]

Alright, I guess I was just talking out my ass. Perhaps I'll return with something more informed when I get it. Sorry guys. >_<

 

[The Rusk]

One of your points I would completely disagree with. From what I know, America's college system is by far one of the most corrupt college systems in the world. It doesn't matter how smart someone is, if they don't have the money to get into the top end universities/colleges then they're not going to. It's a system that basically helps the rich people stay rich.

Just another little thing I wanted to ask was whether or not you've watched any rugby? If I'm being honest I've never sat down to watch a game of American football, but from what I've seen it seems fairly similar to rugby, minus all the padding and helmets.

1. I totally agree, Rugby is awesome. When I went to France, we watched the Parisian team (Primary Team color Hot Pink) get torn apart by Lyon, and even in their Hot Pink uniforms they still scared the shit out of me.

2. We do not have "The most corrupt college system in the world" Harvard, the biggest name college in the US, is giving 100% financial aid to students whose parental combined income is below a certain point (its something around like $200,000). If you have the brains, you can get all kinds of crazy scholarships over here. Also, the colleges that are so expensive are not always the ones that are the best. I know this first hand, as I am a senior graduating from HS this year and just went through the colossal headache that college apps are. Is the college system totally fair? No. Could it be better? Yes. Is it

a system that basically helps the rich people stay rich.

No, it is not.

In response to Chrome, the face of Communism and its proponents was the Soviet Union, arguably the most evil government that has ever existed. They killed more people than Hitler in the second world war, and accomplishment that Josef Stalin was probably very proud of.

If Cuba was so wonderful, why do thousands of Cubans attempt to float across the Atlantic on ramshackle rafts, risking their lives, to get too America? Please name me some communist or communist inspired governments that did not come to power with blood on their hands or restricting the rights of their citizens.

And correct me if I am wrong, but did you ask how the United States protected the world against Communism? How about the Cold War for starters? Do you think that Stalin, who brutally subjugated the eastern european states following the war, would have stopped where he had if the US had not been in the war?

Additionally, please don't use the "But they weren't really communists argument" because we all know that no nations were truly a Marxian Communist state.

Hmm it seems that some of my American friends may have been exaggurating then.

Your views on communism are quite interesting. I think you don't realise that it's not communism that's bad, it's just there have been people (like Stalin) who have abused its ideologies for the sake of power. You do make some fairly good points though, but they all seem to be hailing the US as the world's savior. I can assure you the only reason America got involved in the Cold War was for profit. Profit is why the US has been at war/directly involved with war since World War 2.