They have been pushing the same tone since 1992.hanselthecaretaker said:The game seems to be pretty big on political undertones
Or have you never heard of Wolfenstein 3D?
They have been pushing the same tone since 1992.hanselthecaretaker said:The game seems to be pretty big on political undertones
I'm fairly sure the things she did in the scene would have killed her baby. Leaving the flinging herself around on the floor aside, the shockwaves from the various explosion also probably would be harmful as well as they can internally rupture organs in a fully grown person, let alone a baby. I dunno, I suppose there isn't must research into how close an ungrown child can be to grenade/mech explosion without it's tiny baby heart exploding.Rip Van Rabbit said:Good for her. Being pregnant doesn't make you useless, if anything that clip was indicative of quick-thinking and prowess even in her current state. I would have liked to see her fight in her younger years.
Those were the ones I had in mind when bringing it up (and release date reviews too) to be honest I hadn't realised they had pre-release embargos. This one I thought was a release day embargo at first.altnameJag said:Nah, review embargos are fine in general, so sites aren't rushing reviews to call firsties.
Post-launch review embargos are the spawn of Satan's taint.
PapaGreg096 said:What political "undertones", give me a spoiler/hanselthecaretaker said:The game seems to be pretty big on political undertones, but with the circus vibe they simply don?t end up meaning much of anything. Hopefully for Bethesda?s sake they didn?t plan for them to, because at face value it?s a pretty awful mess. As far as story the game looks to have truly gone off the deep end.
All I got on wikipedia was thisEzekiel said:I just read the plot on Wikipedia. It's bad.
"Following the events of Wolfenstein: The New Order, the Nazi regime has occupied America following their victory of the Second World War. William "B.J." Blazkowicz (Brian Bloom) and the militant resistance are trying to set up a second American Revolution against the Nazi regime. Frau Engel (Nina Franoszek) is hunting Blazkowicz, known to the Nazis as "Terror-Billy", in order to stop the Resistance.[6]"
Oh dear...hanselthecaretaker said:It doesn't even need a spoiler, as the whole game's plot and everything that comes with it speaks for itself. The black dude banging a fat white chic is the icing on the cake.
Oh deary dear...Then you have things like the blatant doses of absurd irony [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nipNR5tJ_1w], which seem to more than vaguely be alluding to the whole Trump/Alt Right debacle. Interesting contrast I saw after looking that up [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LQdDnbXXn20]
All against a backdrop that is being carried out in Europe as we speak. [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MvR-9xjzoPg&t=8s]
More irony. Shouldn't even have to read the comments to realize how dire the situation is over there.
Oh deary dear dear. Times are bad, aren't they? Shocking. Absolutely shocking to have to deal with such heavy, traumatic themes such as futuristic Nazis riding tower-high mechs as they have taken over the world with robot dogs...AND A BLACK MAN IS FUCKING A WHITE WOMAN??? ROYSTEN!! GET THIS HORRENDOUS SHIT OUT MY ARYAN MEDIA BEFORE I PAINT THE WALLS WITH YOUR INFERIOR BLOOD...ITS MAKING ME SICK!Have to wonder why we don't see that side of things in the Stateside media. As Dan Brown said,
History is always written by the winners. When two cultures clash, the loser is obliterated, and the winner writes the history books-books which glorify their own cause and disparage the conquered foe. As Napoleon once said, 'What is history, but a fable agreed upon?
I hope this game doesn't become one of those causes where criticising it means you're a DrumphNaziLiterally, because honestly that scene is incredibly dumb and schlocky and, despite obviously not being a white supremacist, I am never going to defend that scene.Here Comes Tomorrow said:It's a really dumb, awful scene and no one should defend it.
Xsjadoblayde said:Oh dear...hanselthecaretaker said:It doesn't even need a spoiler, as the whole game's plot and everything that comes with it speaks for itself. The black dude banging a fat white chic is the icing on the cake.
Oh deary dear...Then you have things like the blatant doses of absurd irony [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nipNR5tJ_1w], which seem to more than vaguely be alluding to the whole Trump/Alt Right debacle. Interesting contrast I saw after looking that up [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LQdDnbXXn20]
All against a backdrop that is being carried out in Europe as we speak. [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MvR-9xjzoPg&t=8s]
More irony. Shouldn't even have to read the comments to realize how dire the situation is over there.
Oh deary dear dear. Times are bad, aren't they? Shocking. Absolutely shocking to have to deal with such heavy, traumatic themes such as futuristic Nazis riding tower-high mechs as they have taken over the world with robot dogs...AND A BLACK MAN IS FUCKING A WHITE WOMAN??? ROYSTEN!! GET THIS HORRENDOUS SHIT OUT MY ARYAN MEDIA BEFORE I PAINT THE WALLS WITH YOUR INFERIOR BLOOD...ITS MAKING ME SICK!Have to wonder why we don't see that side of things in the Stateside media. As Dan Brown said,
History is always written by the winners. When two cultures clash, the loser is obliterated, and the winner writes the history books-books which glorify their own cause and disparage the conquered foe. As Napoleon once said, 'What is history, but a fable agreed upon?
It's a good thing people can see this light entertainment for what it really is and, you know...pick apart the nitty gritty of every over the top scene as if its supposed to be some grounded, gritty indie documentary. Thank GOD we have such committed Aryans to direct us to the white light.
Astounding.
It's difficult to discern what the developer's aim of that scene was supposed to be, without defaulting to simply "she's a badass pregnant chic".Here Comes Tomorrow said:I'm fairly sure the things she did in the scene would have killed her baby. Leaving the flinging herself around on the floor aside, the shockwaves from the various explosion also probably would be harmful as well as they can internally rupture organs in a fully grown person, let alone a baby. I dunno, I suppose there isn't must research into how close an ungrown child can be to grenade/mech explosion without it's tiny baby heart exploding.Rip Van Rabbit said:Good for her. Being pregnant doesn't make you useless, if anything that clip was indicative of quick-thinking and prowess even in her current state. I would have liked to see her fight in her younger years.
There's "far from useless" then "plain stupid". It's a really dumb, awful scene and no one should defend it.
Barely anyone of those things are "Political" and that speech joke is more dumb fun than political undertones"hanselthecaretaker said:PapaGreg096 said:What political "undertones", give me a spoiler/hanselthecaretaker said:The game seems to be pretty big on political undertones, but with the circus vibe they simply don?t end up meaning much of anything. Hopefully for Bethesda?s sake they didn?t plan for them to, because at face value it?s a pretty awful mess. As far as story the game looks to have truly gone off the deep end.
All I got on wikipedia was thisEzekiel said:I just read the plot on Wikipedia. It's bad.
"Following the events of Wolfenstein: The New Order, the Nazi regime has occupied America following their victory of the Second World War. William "B.J." Blazkowicz (Brian Bloom) and the militant resistance are trying to set up a second American Revolution against the Nazi regime. Frau Engel (Nina Franoszek) is hunting Blazkowicz, known to the Nazis as "Terror-Billy", in order to stop the Resistance.[6]"
It doesn't even need a spoiler, as the whole game's plot and everything that comes with it speaks for itself. The black dude banging a fat white chic is the icing on the cake.
Then you have things like the blatant doses of absurd irony [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nipNR5tJ_1w], which seem to more than vaguely be alluding to the whole Trump/Alt Right debacle. Interesting contrast I saw after looking that up [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LQdDnbXXn20]
All against a backdrop that is being carried out in Europe as we speak. [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MvR-9xjzoPg&t=8s]
More irony. Shouldn't even have to read the comments to realize how dire the situation is over there.
Have to wonder why we don't see that side of things in the Stateside media. As Dan Brown said,
History is always written by the winners. When two cultures clash, the loser is obliterated, and the winner writes the history books-books which glorify their own cause and disparage the conquered foe. As Napoleon once said, 'What is history, but a fable agreed upon?
Well thats their aim whats more to it.hanselthecaretaker said:It's difficult to discern what the developer's aim of that scene was supposed to be, without defaulting to simply "she's a badass pregnant chic".
Thats more on the dumb people who interpert the game more than the game itself its like the equivalent of a feminist getting mad over the "Pedophilla" of Japanese games.hanselthecaretaker said:Of course, it doesn't help that somehow every non favorable comment written about social norms on the internet seems to be automatically interpreted as this [https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/461291105166696448/uL1F8vHE_400x400.jpeg]. If anything it further proves my point of how ridiculous things have gotten.
Wait, you actually thought Wolf2 MIGHT have anything to do with being "pro-Nazi" when the devs talked about how Nazis were like the biggest monsters in all of history and only made them more monstrous in Wolf2?altnameJag said:And considering I've yet to see the phrase "Wolf2 makes you consider that maybe the Nazis had a point", I'm thinking the story is going to be fine.
you either release copies into the wild with enough time for people to form opinions about it before launch (and time for any sort of Shadow of Mordor fuckery to get revealed), and you let those reviews and impressions go live before the game's release, or you don't get my money.
...I mean...people did complain about Kojima lying to them. Alot of people were pissed at MGS2 for the Raiden switch which is a big part of why alot of people hate him (Raiden).Phoenixmgs said:I bet in MGS2 happened during this time, people would legitimately complain about Kojima lying to them.
Reviewers also kept it a secret because it really isn't something that should be spoiled IMO. Not knowing the about Raiden beforehand definitely enhanced my experience of the game. You should really just know the most basic premise of the story going into anything, any story beats or twists should not be known.Saelune said:...I mean...people did complain about Kojima lying to them. Alot of people were pissed at MGS2 for the Raiden switch which is a big part of why alot of people hate him (Raiden).Phoenixmgs said:I bet in MGS2 happened during this time, people would legitimately complain about Kojima lying to them.
The hell is this? Weird, perhaps a bit amusing but really stupid. Maybe a topless lady gunning down something with an AR in each arm would fit Doom but with Wolfenstein's new identity as a game with a serious story this is, to put it mildly for English speakers, absolutely fucking retarded. Was this suppose to be a whole "represent pregnant women!" thing? Something to go with this game's other far-left bullshit? In theory I think that is what they are gunning for but in execution it comes off as dumb and aimed toward people with a fetish for pregnant women.Ezekiel said:What a shitty review. Barely talked about the gameplay.
https://streamable.com/ueohc
Terrible. I can't believe that's the same lady from the last game.
Ezekiel said:Also, I don't care about the reason, the jacket being on fire. The reason is only there to justify cheesy nudity. OF COURSE she doesn't wear a bra or shirt beneath. She wouldn't be jumping around like that pregnant anyway. I rather liked her in the last game.B-Cell said:this is just so cringe worthy. as a fan of RTCW the real wolfenstein game. i feel really bad. even worse than new orderEzekiel said:https://streamable.com/ueohc
Terrible. I can't believe that's the same lady from the last game.
seriously how can this crap apeal to any one??! I cannot even play this game in a front of anyone.
I liked her to and this is not Anya. This is a totally different character in a totally different universe where shitty writing control more of the planet than nazis do.
I haven?t played the game yet but what is this ?other far left shit? you?re referring to? Also I think taking Wolfenstein seriously is just a flawed premise from the outset. The first one was a silly shooter with lasers and space nazi?s and villains named General Dethshead. It had a surprisingly thoughtful protagonist who was almost poetic in a naturalist, John Muir kind of way, but by no means would I call it serious.PurplePonyArcade said:The hell is this? Weird, perhaps a bit amusing but really stupid. Maybe a topless lady gunning down something with an AR in each arm would fit Doom but with Wolfenstein's new identity as a game with a serious story this is, to put it mildly for English speakers, absolutely fucking retarded. Was this suppose to be a whole "represent pregnant women!" thing? Something to go with this game's other far-left bullshit? In theory I think that is what they are gunning for but in execution it comes off as dumb and aimed toward people with a fetish for pregnant women.Ezekiel said:What a shitty review. Barely talked about the gameplay.
https://streamable.com/ueohc
Terrible. I can't believe that's the same lady from the last game.
In the first level of TNO you had Wyatt destroying a Panzerhund by literally playing fetch with it and the Panzerhund last moments were something out of a cartoon, its not like dumb and campy stuff were absent in the previous game.PurplePonyArcade said:The hell is this? Weird, perhaps a bit amusing but really stupid. Maybe a topless lady gunning down something with an AR in each arm would fit Doom but with Wolfenstein's new identity as a game with a serious story this is, to put it mildly for English speakers, absolutely fucking retarded. Was this suppose to be a whole "represent pregnant women!" thing? Something to go with this game's other far-left bullshit? In theory I think that is what they are gunning for but in execution it comes off as dumb and aimed toward people with a fetish for pregnant women.Ezekiel said:What a shitty review. Barely talked about the gameplay.
https://streamable.com/ueohc
Terrible. I can't believe that's the same lady from the last game.
control more of the planet than nazis do.[/quote]PurplePonyArcade said:I liked her to and this is not Anya. This is a totally different character in a totally different universe where shitty writing
If you came to this game for "serious story", you're definitely on the wrong boat. An understandable case, since New Order kind of flip flopped between seriousness and the Metal Gear Solid esque alternate history circus, but the second installment is purely in the latter.PurplePonyArcade said:The hell is this? Weird, perhaps a bit amusing but really stupid. Maybe a topless lady gunning down something with an AR in each arm would fit Doom but with Wolfenstein's new identity as a game with a serious story this is, to put it mildly for English speakers, absolutely fucking retarded. Was this suppose to be a whole "represent pregnant women!" thing? Something to go with this game's other far-left bullshit? In theory I think that is what they are gunning for but in execution it comes off as dumb and aimed toward people with a fetish for pregnant women.Ezekiel said:What a shitty review. Barely talked about the gameplay.
https://streamable.com/ueohc
Terrible. I can't believe that's the same lady from the last game.