I have checked out some more reviews for this game and if some people are upset by that starting clip, um...stay away. Just...stay far, far, FAR away from this game. There was a scene in the review I was watching the suddenly made me go, "Wait...maybe I don't want to play this after all..." I have decided that I'm still going to, but...if you think this game is just going to be stuff like that in the clip (let's be honest, it is kind of silly over-the-top cringe a little), you are wrong. Very wrong. This might be getting into Spec Ops: The Line territory for making me feel uncomfortable.
Wolfenstien: The New Colossus first review
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What is a review going to tell you that straight hour+ gameplay footage isn't going to tell you?altnameJag said:
Really? Embargos are pro-consumer. Would you rather have all reviewers have a week or so to fully play the game or all play through the game as fast as possible to get out first reviews? What method do you think will yield for the higher quality and more informative reviews? Gamers are the bitchiest consumer group probably ever.Xsjadoblayde said:
The game seems to be pretty big on political undertones, but with the circus vibe they simply don?t end up meaning much of anything. Hopefully for Bethesda?s sake they didn?t plan for them to, because at face value it?s a pretty awful mess. As far as story the game looks to have truly gone off the deep end.
What political "undertones", give me a spoiler/hanselthecaretaker said:
All I got on wikipedia was thisEzekiel said:
"Following the events of Wolfenstein: The New Order, the Nazi regime has occupied America following their victory of the Second World War. William "B.J." Blazkowicz (Brian Bloom) and the militant resistance are trying to set up a second American Revolution against the Nazi regime. Frau Engel (Nina Franoszek) is hunting Blazkowicz, known to the Nazis as "Terror-Billy", in order to stop the Resistance.[6]"
Appears to be a very short game. People are saying it's within 4-6 hours for the average player. For $60, that's pretty steep.
From what I've seen of clips of the game, it looks like Saints Row meets wolfenstein, but, in a really jarring and dumb way.
From what I've seen of clips of the game, it looks like Saints Row meets wolfenstein, but, in a really jarring and dumb way.
Late game breaking bug that corrupts your save file. "Clever" narrative twist that obliterates the point of the story.Phoenixmgs said:
You know, stuff games in general and Bethesda games in particular are known for.
Nah, review embargos are fine in general, so sites aren't rushing reviews to call firsties.Xsjadoblayde said:
Post-launch review embargos are the spawn of Satan's taint.
Last time and probably only time I had a bug that corrupted saves was the Viewtiful Joe 2 PS2 demo. You can always backup saves periodically. Video game reviewers are even shittier with regards to criticizing story and characters than they are with gameplay. Uncharted 4 won best narrative for example. Games are notorious for bad writing because there's almost no writing talent in the industry, any good writing in a game is just a bonus at this stage in the medium. Lastly, Bethesda games (Elder Scrolls, Fallout) are different than Bethesda published games, Wolfenstein isn't made by Bethesda.altnameJag said:
That's on average with a CoD single player game, and I've heard it's more like 10 hours. If it's a fun 5-10 hours, I'm fine with that. Length and Quality are not necessarily related.The Lunatic said:
Look buddy, I'm not saying they're important for you, I'm saying it's important to me, and those are things you're not learning from an hour of streamed gameplays, even if they aren't pulling a Shadow of Mordor. This is an industry where a re-re-re-released game's patch notes can include the phrase "made it possible to complete the game". I'm not supporting that, and I don't particularly care if you do.Phoenixmgs said:
And you're right, writing in games tends to be poor, and gamers talking about the story in games tends to be worse. But that's fine. I can accept that. And considering I've yet to see the phrase "Wolf2 makes you consider that maybe the Nazis had a point", I'm thinking the story is going to be fine.
In conclusion, unless your game is an MMO or otherwise relies on high online population numbers, you either release copies into the wild with enough time for people to form opinions about it before launch (and time for any sort of Shadow of Mordor fuckery to get revealed), and you let those reviews and impressions go live before the game's release, or you don't get my money. This isn't a Bethesda only thing, they are just the timely example.
I'm fairly sure the things she did in the scene would have killed her baby. Leaving the flinging herself around on the floor aside, the shockwaves from the various explosion also probably would be harmful as well as they can internally rupture organs in a fully grown person, let alone a baby. I dunno, I suppose there isn't must research into how close an ungrown child can be to grenade/mech explosion without it's tiny baby heart exploding.Rip Van Rabbit said:
There's "far from useless" then "plain stupid". It's a really dumb, awful scene and no one should defend it.
Those were the ones I had in mind when bringing it up (and release date reviews too) to be honest I hadn't realised they had pre-release embargos. This one I thought was a release day embargo at first.altnameJag said:
PapaGreg096 said:
It doesn't even need a spoiler, as the whole game's plot and everything that comes with it speaks for itself. The black dude banging a fat white chic is the icing on the cake.
Then you have things like the blatant doses of absurd irony [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nipNR5tJ_1w], which seem to more than vaguely be alluding to the whole Trump/Alt Right debacle. Interesting contrast I saw after looking that up [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LQdDnbXXn20]
All against a backdrop that is being carried out in Europe as we speak. [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MvR-9xjzoPg&t=8s]
More irony. Shouldn't even have to read the comments to realize how dire the situation is over there.
Have to wonder why we don't see that side of things in the Stateside media. As Dan Brown said,
History is always written by the winners. When two cultures clash, the loser is obliterated, and the winner writes the history books-books which glorify their own cause and disparage the conquered foe. As Napoleon once said, 'What is history, but a fable agreed upon?
Oh dear...hanselthecaretaker said:
Oh deary dear...
Oh deary dear dear. Times are bad, aren't they? Shocking. Absolutely shocking to have to deal with such heavy, traumatic themes such as futuristic Nazis riding tower-high mechs as they have taken over the world with robot dogs...AND A BLACK MAN IS FUCKING A WHITE WOMAN??? ROYSTEN!! GET THIS HORRENDOUS SHIT OUT MY ARYAN MEDIA BEFORE I PAINT THE WALLS WITH YOUR INFERIOR BLOOD...ITS MAKING ME SICK!
It's a good thing people can see this light entertainment for what it really is and, you know...pick apart the nitty gritty of every over the top scene as if its supposed to be some grounded, gritty indie documentary. Thank GOD we have such committed Aryans to direct us to the white light.
Astounding.
I hope this game doesn't become one of those causes where criticising it means you're a DrumphNaziLiterally, because honestly that scene is incredibly dumb and schlocky and, despite obviously not being a white supremacist, I am never going to defend that scene.Here Comes Tomorrow said:
Xsjadoblayde said:
I'm well aware the whole game is silly, which is why I mentioned it having a circus vibe, but everyone (bears included) should know its content would end up sparking controversy, and some of it seems blatantly intentional. Take this article [http://www.gamerevolution.com/features/350795-weird-wolfenstein-2-wasnt-political] for instance.
Of course, it doesn't help that somehow every non favorable comment written about social norms on the internet seems to be automatically interpreted as this [https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/461291105166696448/uL1F8vHE_400x400.jpeg]. If anything it further proves my point of how ridiculous things have gotten.
It's difficult to discern what the developer's aim of that scene was supposed to be, without defaulting to simply "she's a badass pregnant chic".Here Comes Tomorrow said:
Again, [https://streamable.com/ueohc] what the hell would she have to remove any let alone all of her upper clothing for, other than to give "Terror Billy" (and players) a show?