Ooo, this is excellent news. I wait for the next expansion to bring them all back, then lose 40% of subscriptions soon after. C'mon Blizzard, mess with the fans just a little more than you have been.
World of Warcraft Loses 1.3 Million Subscribers in 3 Months
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OT: It isn't insignificant but it isn't something that will "kill WoW" or even dent it much. Long term players, who are more inclined to buy special editions and purchase things on the store, are the market that Acti-Blizz wants and those people aren't going anywhere any time soon. Chances are if we could see the statistics for who is leaving and how long they had a subscription for, whether they resub every year/expansion for a few months or whether they're just after buying the game to try it out the numbers would look even better.
I wonder how many of those subscribers are actually active? I for one know that I haven't touched the game since
*Looks at calendar*
January / February this year...
*Looks at calendar*
January / February this year...
Quitted back in cata, the pvp just became a bloated mess with ghostcrawler doing nothing to improve it. I wasn't really much of a PVE guy but some fights were fun, like pre nerf kaelthas, archimonde, alar etc. Apparently this new guy in charge of PVP is a blessing from what i heard, he actually takes gamers input and fixes pvp bugs rather quickly. Ye wow kinda got dumbed down in the last 2 expansions and you could get an epic just by killing a lvl 1 rabbit but it still was and is the most influential MMO ever. I still hold dear some memories back from vanilla and BC. The game made me extremely happy when i played it and hopefully TITAN will be good, with some new take on PVP
If they're paying the subscription they're 'active'.VoidWanderer said:
If they're paying but not playing - who cares? They're still paying.
If they're playing but not paying they don't register as active.
Do we really need a new thread every time WoW subscriber base fluctuates? Number of subscribers is a sine curve with new content patch at every second π. It has large player base so fluctuation is also large, this isn't any major drop, most of them will come back next patch, probably even more so since it's going to be summer by then.
Actually, for the two years I played WoW the playerbase seemed to drop like a brick during the summer. Probably because people were going outside and stuff.Vhite said:
I haven't played since the end of Wrath, and I don't think I'll ever play a Blizzard game again. I am clearly not their audience.
Are you still paying the subscription? Because it sounds like you're not getting your money's worth!VoidWanderer said:
The Game is fine, its just the players.
Reason i quit was not the universe, or the game itself. Reason i quit was because every single arsehole in the known universe seemed to be playing on the European servers.
Cyber bulling is rampant on wow. If id kids i wouldn't let them anywhere near it.
Reason i quit was not the universe, or the game itself. Reason i quit was because every single arsehole in the known universe seemed to be playing on the European servers.
Cyber bulling is rampant on wow. If id kids i wouldn't let them anywhere near it.
I gave the Panda exp pack a go when it came out and ended up quitting again after a month. Hated what they did with talents. They made it so damn simple into a you can select 1 talent per every 15 levels and alot of the old talents from the old talent trees were baseline when you chose your spec. It was a major killer for me since i enjoyed watching my toon grow in power and i had to think on what talents i wanted since to gain one talent i would have to forfeit another etc.
Ghostcrawler said he changed the talent system to this oversimplified mess because the old system was too cookie cutter, where everyone was the same spec. Ghostcrawler is speaking out of his arse. Its even more cookie cutter and everyone was the same (example being a massive number of warriors chose shockwave and avatar)
Also don't help that it was still world of orgrimar/stormwind/queuecraft. Still no sod outside the main cities doing stuff, all hiding in the main cities in a queue for something. World still felt as dead as it was in cata.
also...farmville in mah wow?! more likely then you think. I don't think growing veggies and picking weeds is very befitting an undead warrior. If he still had a jaw it would of hit the floor by being given those quests.
Chiefohara is right about the community. Never even set foot in the dungeons due to hating to pug that much because of the community. I was in a nice little guild with some decent people but it was a small and most of then didn't really see the point in the new pack and left soon after along with me. Puging nowadays is like russian roulette and instead of 1 bullet there is a bullet in every chamber.
Ghostcrawler said he changed the talent system to this oversimplified mess because the old system was too cookie cutter, where everyone was the same spec. Ghostcrawler is speaking out of his arse. Its even more cookie cutter and everyone was the same (example being a massive number of warriors chose shockwave and avatar)
Also don't help that it was still world of orgrimar/stormwind/queuecraft. Still no sod outside the main cities doing stuff, all hiding in the main cities in a queue for something. World still felt as dead as it was in cata.
also...farmville in mah wow?! more likely then you think. I don't think growing veggies and picking weeds is very befitting an undead warrior. If he still had a jaw it would of hit the floor by being given those quests.
Chiefohara is right about the community. Never even set foot in the dungeons due to hating to pug that much because of the community. I was in a nice little guild with some decent people but it was a small and most of then didn't really see the point in the new pack and left soon after along with me. Puging nowadays is like russian roulette and instead of 1 bullet there is a bullet in every chamber.
Bring back burning crusade.. that's where WoW peaked.
This stupid, mind-numbingly simple makeover they have given wow with the talents and gear is just so boring - it's as if blizzard wanted to expand their player base to people without higher brain function.
This stupid, mind-numbingly simple makeover they have given wow with the talents and gear is just so boring - it's as if blizzard wanted to expand their player base to people without higher brain function.
Activision are going to be happy raking in the billions a year as WoW slowly declines and then it will probably stabilise at around 2 million or something in many years time, which is still enough to make an insane amount of money. They'll gradually move most of the staff onto others things, or fire them and everything is coming up Activision
The primary issue I have with WoW as a long term player is just how lobby based the entire affair is now. There are people playing who don't even know where the entrance to the Stormstout Brewery is, let alone the entrance to any major raid instance. That and there seems to be too few people to fill a 25 man roster. Heck, a number of guilds can't even fill a 10 man roster effectively anymore.
Problem Warcraft has at the moment is there is no need to play it for any length of time, there is nothing to work at or strive for. Everyone can get silly levels of gear super quickly and burn through all the content in record time, it also does not help that the game is tuned in such a way that you outgear everything before you get to it. There is no less content than there was from classic to now (raid an instance wise, its just burned through far too quickly. Its all about instant gratification and everyone being able to do everything without working at it. I miss gearing up for heroics working through the easy heroics and then going onto the harder ones, working out how we can optimise things to run the place faster and get the gear we need and then moving onto raids. You may say i am looking through rose tinted glasses and you may be right but hey it kept me playing.
The only surprise involved in this story is that it took this long for them to start significantly hemorrhaging subscribers.
If they did that the Subs would tank even harder than before. A lot of people playing the game are casual focused and Burning Crusade was still back in the day when they were refining for the core audience. The best bet for getting a Burning Crusade like experience is to jump to another MMO. I for one am heading towards FFXIV ARR since the game is stronger in many respects than World of Warcraft (lore that doesn't make people grit their teeth, better visuals, completely new game world to explore, and a mix of new elements and elements from previous single player and multiplayer titles, etc). Would have moved to Star Wars The Old Republic, but the game was... yeah.Whatislove said:
My sub's not lapsed yet so I'm not in that 1.3 million yet, but I'll probably be part of next quarter's decline. However there should be an upswing with 5.4, the last raid patch of this expansion. I know some people who are planning to return for that.
I wonder how many subs WoW needs to maintain it's profitability, while still being able to fund new patches?
I think the game is safe, until it gets close to that point. Then it could just keep the existing game running with no updates, so long as that is profitable.
I wonder how many subs WoW needs to maintain it's profitability, while still being able to fund new patches?
I think the game is safe, until it gets close to that point. Then it could just keep the existing game running with no updates, so long as that is profitable.