Worth buying Oblivion?

ThePantomimeThief

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Oblivion, in my opinion, is a fun game, and at times can be incredibly immersive. But, Morrowind is a way better game. Morrowind takes a while to get used to (particularly the combat) but you can either get used to it or just mod the crap out of it until it plays the way you want it to. It's one of the best game worlds I've ever seen, and the storyline is great too. Personally, I'd find someone who has both the games and try them out for yourself. Otherwise, I would recommend Morrowind over Oblivion, but they're both worthwhile.
 

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I'll refrain from an "I like my video games like I like my women" joke at this point, but Oblivion sounds cheap, deep and fulfilling at this point. It's nice to hear so many people enjoyed it, but also useful to have realistic expectations...although I'm sure my own response will either be love or hate. Life is rarely a compromise.
 

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The best answer I can think of is that Oblivion is a better designed game but Morrowind has a much better world.

Oblivion is easy to pick up but has more then enough depth to keep you interested. The story starts off kind of slow but actually gets pretty good near the end, the environments are beautiful and varied, and the voice acting is pretty good but extremely repetitive.

Morrowind has a much more interesting setting because it's more immediately original and features several clashes between different cultures all trying to figure out how to live together, and is worth playing for that alone. However the gameplay works about as well trying to shift without the clutch in a stationary car. I've taken to playing with god mode on all the time because the 'percentage chance to actually hit someone' system is so infuriatingly broken that it was all I could do to stick a big 'screw this' post-it note to the whole confused mess. Also I can't seem to get it to run on Vista. I don't know if that's just me or if that's a problem for you.

In all both of them are great but for very different reasons. If at all possible I'd say get the GOTY versions for both of them because they are definitely worth it. If that's not an option I'd go with getting Oblivion first, if only because all the people I've ever heard not like it were all existing fans of the series and didn't like the changes. It probably works much better as an entry level title.

And in ether case the are more then enough mods to patch over the major flaws (except Morrowind's combat).

Hope that helps.
 

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yes we've all established that morrowind has more depth and.....stuff.

but one cannot deny oblivion from being a really fun game.
it even got game of the year.
only thing i intensely hated was the levelin system. just because of that i stayed at lvl 1 the whole game.
 

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TraderJimmy said:
I've heard bad things about the game, but mostly it focussed on how enemies levelled up with you. Now, that kind of appeals to me. Are there any other drawbacks to the game that make it not worth the purchase? Should I have gotten it a long time ago? Would I get seriously addicted? (This is a genuine concern - I once spent a week off work desperately attempting to 100% complete BG2, although I got away with it and it was only menial temp work).

In other words, if you feel like it, talk about Oblivion to me. Please? :)
Which do you like more? FPS games or RPGs? If you like FPS games, then yes, buy Oblivion. All the best parts of The Elder Scrolls RPG system have been streamlined and removed to make the game easier to play for n00bs. Hell, even the leveling system has been changed so that if you work on the skills you want to learn, you will get fucked over late-game, all in the name of making the game easier to understand.

If you like RPGs, sure, you can buy Oblivion still since it's a cheap, good game, (DAMNIT find some UI mods though!) but you would find your money better spent on Morrowind despite its ugly graphics and VERY RPG-stat centric combat system.
 

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Oblivion's a great game, it's a lot of fun. Dialogue assignment is absolutely terrible though, but it's easy to get around that. It's like having an RPG, an FPS and a sneaking game all in one. Tons of replay value. Get it for the PC definitely, but don't spend too much money on it.
 

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If you haven't played Morrowind, get it instead of Oblivion.

If you have played Morrowind, still don't get Oblivion because it sucks compared to Morrowind. It's dumbed-down for the consoles, and fancy graphics can't make up for castrated gameplay.
 

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Mike Richards said:
The best answer I can think of is that Oblivion is a better designed game but Morrowind has a much better world.

Oblivion is easy to pick up but has more then enough depth to keep you interested. The story starts off kind of slow but actually gets pretty good near the end, the environments are beautiful and varied, and the voice acting is pretty good but extremely repetitive.

Morrowind has a much more interesting setting because it's more immediately original and features several clashes between different cultures all trying to figure out how to live together, and is worth playing for that alone. However the gameplay works about as well trying to shift without the clutch in a stationary car. I've taken to playing with god mode on all the time because the 'percentage chance to actually hit someone' system is so infuriatingly broken that it was all I could do to stick a big 'screw this' post-it note to the whole confused mess. Also I can't seem to get it to run on Vista. I don't know if that's just me or if that's a problem for you.

In all both of them are great but for very different reasons. If at all possible I'd say get the GOTY versions for both of them because they are definitely worth it. If that's not an option I'd go with getting Oblivion first, if only because all the people I've ever heard not like it were all existing fans of the series and didn't like the changes. It probably works much better as an entry level title.

And in ether case the are more then enough mods to patch over the major flaws (except Morrowind's combat).

Hope that helps.
Very much so. GOTY edition it is. And nothing works on Vista until you've changed at least three seemingly unconnected things :D.

I'm not really very keen on constant misses. So that's actually useful information there too. Must've taken you a while to type/think this post out, so I'm very grateful to you for that.

EDIT: Thank you to everyone who commented on this thread, the different points of view were very informative and although I didn't thank everyone in person, I read every post and really appreciate the time taken to tell me this stuff. And lest I seem churlish, thank you Cryofthewolf down thar, I'm definitely going to get that shivering Isles expansion now. (Sheogorath? Tres lovecraft). And daz for the sleeping tip :p.
 

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Despite what some people said, it isn't that bad.

True, Morrowind is much better, but if you enjoy a physics system, being able to buy and decorate houses, and npc's that move around and have specific schedules than you might like Oblivion. It is also easier than Morrowind, almost like a dumbed-down version of the game.

The biggest problem I had with it besides the leveling system, the voice acting, and bad characterization (they might have schedules but they are as bland as they come) is that when you get to the end of the game, complete all the quests, and pillage every dungeon there isn't much left to do. Sure, you can go around putting Mage's Hoods on everybody, stalk and kill beggars (basically things people decided to do when they complete everything) but most of the time you will be wandering through the same old dungeon, collecting junk to sell to raise your money which slowly becomes more useless as time goes on.

Even after all that, I would get the game. Even if you just rent it for a bit, it is still worth experiencing. My recommendation is getting it with The Shivering Isles expansion. Sheogorath is amazing. x-D
 

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I absolutely adore the game, but a good advice... You level up fast, VERY fast, faster than you gear up, and the monsters you fight lvl up as you do.

Good thing is, you only lvl up when you sleep.. So dont! :p

When you got the gearing, then go to bed for an hour (ingame) when you wake up... Sleep again.

Repeat untill you dont lvl after sleeping.
 

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I fucking loved oblivion. I've seriously bought that game 4 times.
Once on the xbox
Second time on the xbox again when the first disc broke
Third time on steam
Fourth time on disc so I could use the mod manager.
I would NEVER do that with any other game.
you should probably buy it if it would be for console, but definitely if it would be for PC.
 

Bek359

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Yes, it is worth getting. But keep in mind that many/most of the criticisms people have levelled at it are indeed correct. It all depends on whether you can get past that.
 

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Morrowind's combat sucks. Utterly and completely. Oblivion gameplay-wise is far better but you need to get the GoTY edition as the main game is pretty generic. Overall, Oblivion is excellent and is a must own for anyone w/o nostalgia issues.

Edit: Grammar; sorry, typing with a messed up index finger.
 

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I'm actually surprised by how many people are saying Oblivion is a bad game.
Seriously, it's probably one of the best games of modern years. I've played Morrowind, and it's good, but the combat is terrible and the world map looks pretty ugly. Also, no voice acting, all text. It's basically Oblivion as-depicted by the LAST generation of games, and also isn't as good.

So basically; Get Oblivion, GOTY edition, so then you can also play Shivering Isles.
Because SI is probably the best part of that game.
 

tehroc

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Watching someone play it makes me want to play it, playing the game makes me want to turn it off. I don't know if that's any help.
 

DarkInsight

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I loved Oblivion, and I had it for the 360 originally, now I got it for the PC and modded the crap out of it ( XP mods make the game 100x better )
 

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It's bad. Real bad.

Try Morrowind, better game and with graphics mods looks better.

To be more specific, it's horrendously buggy and mods only make that worse (and without mods it's really bad) AI is monumentally bad, voice acting is truly awful and everyone has the same 10 voice actors. Leveling system is broken, enviromets are balnd and empty, the dungeons were created using a random level generator and they look it. Psychic guards, boring quest design unbalanced skill system. The main plot is as trite as they come and you aren't even the main character.
I'm sorry my friend, but you are full of shit.

Coming from somebody who has played both Morrowind and Oblivion to almost 100% completion (and starting with Morrowind, I might add) I'll tell you that both games are fantastic in their own way.

Morrowind on one hand, is the more "complex" I guess you could say of the two games. It is notoriously difficult to get into - the amount of information you're expected to comprehend at the beginning of the game is enourmous - but once that learning hurdle is done with, it's a very deep and exiting game. To me, Morrowind's main focus was a loot one - you'll soon fall into a routine where the game is most exciting when searching for the best loot you can find, which is out there to discover from the very beginning of the game. The main plot of Morrowind is brief, boring, tedious, and essentially just another side quest, and I find Morrowind to be more of a sandbox game than Oblivion due to its lesser focus and greater diversity in environments.

Oblivion on the other hand has its fair share of problems too. Levelling exists in both games but is much more apparent in Oblivion - if you decide to use a character with an unusual selection of skills you may find it very difficult to survive as you continue to level up. Loot is for the most part also levelled (although there are several notable exceptions) so you normally can't just go out and find amazing gear from the beginning. The pros of Oblivion though is that it is much more story based - not just focusing on the main quest, but also on the side quests. Questing is much more developed, and is rarely the "go here, find this, bring it back to me" idea that is so prelevant in Morrowind. Most side quests are much more personally involving and interesting and fun really, despite the lack of different environments and iconic buildings like the Vivec Cantons in Morrowind.

Oh, and there's also the combat problem. Morrowind's combat is not terrible per se, but Oblivion's is miles above it, you'll see what I mean if you try them both.

My reccomendation to you is that Oblivion is definitely worth buying, and so is Morrowind. Whichever game you enjoy the most is really up to your playing style, after playing both games I can't even comprehend the stubborn attacks given by some of the haters up there which for the most part have little grounding. Just a warning though, if you buy either game be prepared to lose about 150 hours of your life on each.

EDIT: to the OP, one final note of advice is to ignore the suggestions that Oblivion was "dumbed down for the consoles". Morrowind was released on Xbox for one, and for two, anyone I seriously talk to about the issue seems to have an argument in line with "baww they made axe and blunt into one skill the game is ruined bawww." Play the games for yourself, comments about dumbing down are simply bitter expressions of Oblivion not being a nostalgic revisit to Morrowind's system, which for one I think is a positive thing. Progress.