Worth buying Oblivion?

[JC175]

No.

Oblivion is probably the poorest RPG in existence. It is barely even an RPG or an action game.

The voice acting is the worst from any game ever BTW.

From any game, ever?

I see you've never played Resident Evil, my friend. Which was a fantastic game despite it, funny that. (EDIT: and Deus Ex was pretty horrible too, see a pattern?)

The OP asked whether Oblivion was worth buying, not how it fits into categories. I can't see how you can say that it is barely an RPG and/or the poorest RPG in existence. Pick up Lagoon for the SNES, then we'll talk.

"I saw a mudcrab the other day".

And look at this for the love of crap...


When you hear someone in Resident Evil say "Hang on let me do that one again" come back and we'll talk.

I say it is barely an RPG because nothing you do in the game effects anything. You can become arena champion at level 2, you can pick locks with a security skill of 5, you never have to make a meaningful choice about putting points into strength or putting points into agility. And the action part of it is pretty poor also. Overall, terrible game not worth getting.

My point was that if you're singling out a game for having a few issues with voice acting of all things that you're missing the point of the game. I've played through the game, seen that mistake in action, among many other odd bits of dialog, but at no situation did it make me think "alright, that's it, this game is balls." Again with your discussion of your actions having no effect upon anything (which I disagree with to an extent, but I won't get into that) - sure, it's common knowledge that the levelling system is flawed. Oblivion is not a perfect game. But using such bitchy little trite observations to justify why it is of all things "one of the poorest RPG's in existence" is extreme arrogance. I'm not saying you have to like the game, that's your perogative and I honestly don't care if you love it or hate it. But petty exaggeration? Another issue.

 

[Grey_Focks]

No.

Oblivion is probably the poorest RPG in existence. It is barely even an RPG or an action game.

The voice acting is the worst from any game ever BTW.

1) Poorest RPG in existence? really? REALLY? I'd suggest you browse some of the ps1 JRPGs that came out in the wake of FF7's success, then get back to me. Do you say this because of the fact that enemies level with you? With the exception of hurting the immersion, I stand by saying that this is a good thing. Instead of just mindless grinding to raise stats so you can beat the x-level boss, it encourages you to level intelligently.

2)You level. You can fully customize your character. You upgrade and get new equipment throughout the course of the game. There are elves and orcs. Pretty sure that makes it an RPG, regardless of taste. agreed it's not an action game, then again it's not really meant to be, it was just meant to have a more engaging combat system.

3) No game with Sir Patrick Stewart can be said to have the worst voice acting. And have you ever played Dynasty Warriors?

 

[Necrofudge]

It was a fantastic game, but I never did like that the enemies leveled up with you.
Not because it would be difficult at the end, but because it is just too easy at the beginning. You could beat the main story line as a level 5 since all the monsters are weak. This is what makes me like Morrowind more.

And wow this thread is pissing out a lot of hate. Most of it about the voice acting which I never saw any problems with.

 

[Hyper-space]

It's bad. Real bad.

Try Morrowind, better game and with graphics mods looks better.

To be more specific, it's horrendously buggy and mods only make that worse (and without mods it's really bad) AI is monumentally bad, voice acting is truly awful and everyone has the same 10 voice actors. Leveling system is broken, enviromets are balnd and empty, the dungeons were created using a random level generator and they look it. Psychic guards, boring quest design unbalanced skill system. The main plot is as trite as they come and you aren't even the main character.

You are so "monumentally" wrong that it hurts.

1. "Horrendously buggy"? name at least 1 game-breaking bug. I can name a couple of major bugs from TES3: All of your faction ranks get wiped if you join the Temple after finishing the main quest and the reach of spears does not work as people with stump hands can reach you 3 meters away.
2. The A.I in Oblivion is god-like compared to Morrowind, NPC's in TES3 constantly cluster together in the middle of the fucking doorway blocking your path and couple that with messed collision detection which prevents someone who can jump up to 2 meters in the air from jumping over a 20-centimeter high fence. Also, the NPC-escort missions are flawed in that the NPC will not choose his own path but walk in your footsteps (causing them to fall down cliffs or getting stuck in a bush).
3. Want to know something funny? Morrowind used less voice actors and you could not look at them without triggering their generic response.
4. "Leveling system is broken", cool story bro. How about backing up your argument next time?. The leveling system was designed so that there would always be a challenge, every enemy in Oblivion had base stats, meaning that it will always take more to defeat an ogre than a rat.
5. Environments are bland and empty? instead of having a copy-pasted frankenstein landscape they decided on a visually pleasing and seamless environment consisting of savannah-like plains, icy-mountains, swamps and pine-forests.
6. Psychic Guards? try the Guard Overhaul mod. Also, no NPC in morrowind went to sleep.
7. The Main Quest does not get bogged down by that drawn-out shit filler where you have to walk everywhere telling them that you are the "nerevarine".
8. Boring quest? the quests in Oblivion are leagues ahead of Morrowind. TES3 was filled with easy-ass escort missions and "kill X amount of Y". Oh and also "oh noes someone stole my clothes, go get them for me", that happened 3 fucking times.

 

[USSR]

I killed sooo many hours on Oblivion.
Honestly, I think it's worth the buy.

 

[ascorbius]

For such a bad game, I must say, I spent a really really long time playing it. I never realized it was so bad..

OK Quick Review..
The bad:
* The world is massive, but there are invisible walls.. wandering around near the edge of the game world and you'll get the You cannot go any further message.. jolts you out of the game somewhat.

* The conversations, OK, it's been done to death, the voice acting isn't great sometimes. I Prefer the Mass Effect way of doing things. But when you consider the sheer amount of dialog going on in this massive story, It'd take incredible voice talent in large quantities to pull off a believable world, not to mention if it was all done with cinematic cut-scenes. They did their best with their budget. It was believable enough.

The Good:
* I actually liked the leveling system, it didn't just pit harder versions of low level baddies against you (as such), it was harder baddies.. which to me slotted right in with the story, the world in peril, evil taking over the land and if you took too long, the evil's gonna get stronger right?...

* The map is massive and you can discover so much just by wandering around. I've still not seen everything. It's a beautiful place to get lost in too.

* The combat and magic systems are pretty good.. they take a little getting used to, but I think the only people who will complain are the twitch gamers when they run out of mana and can't shoot fireballs anymore. Put a lot into this game, you'll get a lot out of it.

* The story, it's massive, it's layered.. there are factions and you get to choose how you tackle the story. The main story arc covers about 25% of the available missions. You get plenty of time to get great stuff, make great stuff, discover great stuff.

* It's involving and the graphics are great in my opinion. I didn't like the graphics inside an oblivion gate, not because they were bad.. because they were disturbing.. the sticky blood covered stone in particular.. so I just put some night eye goggles on, turned everything blue.. sorted!.


You can get all this on budget now?... Get it, give it a chance.. If you hate it, you've not lost much.

 

[Jestere]

It's really good! I spent more time with morrowind, but Oblivion is more accessible and has heaps of fun stuff to do. even just going around exploring the gorgeous environments and getting lost is brilliant. Do the thieves guild and dark brotherhood quests if you feel like some really good quests oh, and modsmodsmods for PC!!!

 

[Luke Cartner]

yes it is.
Morrowind was a great game, but it will feel dated.
Oblivion has faults but it a good game. You can pick it up cheap. So why not invest a small amount to give it a go?

 

[Necrofudge]

TES3 was filled with easy-ass escort missions and "kill X amount of Y".

Please refresh my memory. What quest in Morrowind ever made you kill a certain amount of a monster?

EDIT:

The Good:
* I actually liked the leveling system, it didn't just pit harder versions of low level baddies against you (as such), it was harder baddies.. which to me slotted right in with the story, the world in peril, evil taking over the land and if you took too long, the evil's gonna get stronger right?...

I actually thought that was leaning more toward the bad parts of the game. In Morrowind, there are both low level and high level baddies wandering around at any given time. Certain areas (like the West Gash) are just filled with wild animals that can be taken on rather easily. Other areas (Ash Lands, Red Mountain, etc.) are filled with stronger stuff. It gives more incentive to making a well built character and possibly using town services like transportation.

Unfortunately, in Oblivion this isn't the case. At level one, EVERYTHING is at your level. The animals, the undead, even the invading Daedra armies (which annoyed me the most). It makes the game too easy and with no restrictions on what you should realistically be able to do at a low level.

 

[cuddly_tomato]

I have never really understood the tribalistic defense of this game (and indeed other games). Is it an attempt to deal with buyers remorse?

Oblivion is not a perfect game. But using such bitchy little trite observations to justify why it is of all things "one of the poorest RPG's in existence" is extreme arrogance. I'm not saying you have to like the game, that's your perogative and I honestly don't care if you love it or hate it. But petty exaggeration? Another issue.

No, you are saying that someone else can't have the opinion that Oblivion is the poorest RPG in existence and that anyone who possibly has that opinion is making "bitchy little trite observations". If someone elses opinion of a video game bothers you so much that you have to resort to calling someone "bitchy", or "petty", or "arrogant" then I humbly suggest that deep down you realize that the petty arrogant ***** has a point, or else you wouldn't be so perturbed by their words.

People generally only get defensive when a vunerability is exposed.

 

[Dommyboy]

Yes, for PC, and mod the crap out of it.

That could of been the second post and the thread would be summed up.

 

[Hyper-space]

No.

Oblivion is probably the poorest RPG in existence. It is barely even an RPG or an action game.

The voice acting is the worst from any game ever BTW.

From any game, ever?

I see you've never played Resident Evil, my friend. Which was a fantastic game despite it, funny that. (EDIT: and Deus Ex was pretty horrible too, see a pattern?)

The OP asked whether Oblivion was worth buying, not how it fits into categories. I can't see how you can say that it is barely an RPG and/or the poorest RPG in existence. Pick up Lagoon for the SNES, then we'll talk.

"I saw a mudcrab the other day".

And look at this for the love of crap...


When you hear someone in Resident Evil say "Hang on let me do that one again" come back and we'll talk.

I say it is barely an RPG because nothing you do in the game effects anything. You can become arena champion at level 2, you can pick locks with a security skill of 5, you never have to make a meaningful choice about putting points into strength or putting points into agility. And the action part of it is pretty poor also. Overall, terrible game not worth getting.

Is it so terrible that they focused more on timing and precision (the basics of easy to learn, difficult to master) when it came to lock picking instead of having a no-skill needed system? Fame affects the general disposition of the people meaning that becoming an Arena Champion would give you a better deal or more information. "you never have to make a meaningful choice about putting points into strength or putting points into agility." what?! Strength increased the damage you dealt and how much you could carry while agility affected skills like acrobatics, marksmanship etc. The action was easy to learn but difficult to master, in that it focused less on overblown fighting moves and button-mashing combos and more on a sensible combat system, where blocking and counter-attacking was key in defeating your enemies. Also, once you reached a certain level of skill with blade or blunt you could perform sideways power attacks that disarmed your opponent, a backwards power attack that pushed back and a forward charging attack that knocked down opponents.

Personally i found the accessibility of Oblivion one of the strong points of the game, as it did not tie you down or restrict you from doing what you wanted, "do what you want, whenever you want".

 

[Infinatex]

GO buy it now! Must have for sure! (and it's so cheap now you have no excuse not to!)

 

[Adventurer2626]

Buy it and buy it for cheap. Morrowind is good as well. If possible get both. Or if you can try both and buy the one you like best. As you can see it's as heated as any [insert sports rivalry here] so make up your own mind.

 

[Upbeat Zombie]

I recently borrowed it from a friend and for awhile there I couldn't put it down, but there is was point where it just got really boring and I could never really get into it again. But that's just me. If you like open world rpgs you would probably like it.

 

[DSK-]

It was a good game. It was the first truly massive open-world RPG I played. It does get a bit dull, but with the cornucopia of mods available you will find something to enjoy.


At the very least you can buy it to hear the "Stop right there criminal scum!" with the massive scowl on a guard's face. Absolutely priceless!.

 

[Boxpopper]

Oblivion = Awesome.

Morrowind > Oblivion.

But Morrowind in my opinion, while being much deeper, complex, and therefore enjoyable with a larger world and a better story, is not exactly beginner friendly. The graphics can be a put off, and scrolling through text can feel like a chore. Also the combat is ugly.

So I would recommend buying Oblivion (I'm a whore for it, shit, I bought it twice) and, if you become as enthralled and obsessed with the world of The Elder Scrolls as I did, you will be able to put the graphics and ugly combat aside when you inevitably move on to Morrowind.

 

[sketch_zeppelin]

Considering how cheap oblivion has gotten you'd likely be alright buying it. It has alot of flaws but at the end of the day the exploration is still satisfying and it's very different compared to the growing number of generic space marine or post apocalypitc games out there.

Just don't buy the horse armor DLC

 

[The Night Shade]

Not really,if you like rpgs then give it a go but you should rent it