Personally I would let 10 people die.
I don't have a particularly positive view of complete strangers.
I don't have a particularly positive view of complete strangers.
Would you kill your friend to save 10 other people
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Hundreds die every day.
Those 10 will only make a prettier number.
since i do not have a lot of friends , mainly because EVERYONE LOVES ME YET I HATE EVERYONE ,
I would rather keep the friend.
Those 10 will only make a prettier number.
since i do not have a lot of friends , mainly because EVERYONE LOVES ME YET I HATE EVERYONE ,
I would rather keep the friend.
You're not killing those "10 innocent people". They just die. Just like thousands of people die every second without anyone rightfully caring about those damn bastards croaking it.
Any action has some kind of reaction. Something you write today might lead to a million deaths in the future. It doesn't and it shouldn't make you feel guilty about it. Shit happens.
The people can die all they want, a good friend's better then the better half of the population. Although the food-making slave workers are still welcome to stay.
The same way neither you nor I care about some unknown 89 year old grandmother being stabbed to death at this very moment on the streets of, I don't know, let me think of a shitty enough place where people still have considerably long lives... Well, wherever. You don't care about people you don't know about. Someone you do not know doesn't exist, practically. It's only when you learn of them or meet them they pop into existence. Of course, I'm speaking all metaphorical and shit right now, although we might or might not be in the Matrix but if we were I'm sure the makers of it would think of some way to make us not realize that we are in the Matrix or simply make us incapable of thinking about it so since we are thinking about it, it's probably not there unless the makers wanted us to think that way raaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaargh.
People you don't know and don't know of aren't worth shit.
Any action has some kind of reaction. Something you write today might lead to a million deaths in the future. It doesn't and it shouldn't make you feel guilty about it. Shit happens.
The people can die all they want, a good friend's better then the better half of the population. Although the food-making slave workers are still welcome to stay.
The same way neither you nor I care about some unknown 89 year old grandmother being stabbed to death at this very moment on the streets of, I don't know, let me think of a shitty enough place where people still have considerably long lives... Well, wherever. You don't care about people you don't know about. Someone you do not know doesn't exist, practically. It's only when you learn of them or meet them they pop into existence. Of course, I'm speaking all metaphorical and shit right now, although we might or might not be in the Matrix but if we were I'm sure the makers of it would think of some way to make us not realize that we are in the Matrix or simply make us incapable of thinking about it so since we are thinking about it, it's probably not there unless the makers wanted us to think that way raaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaargh.
People you don't know and don't know of aren't worth shit.
Um no, I would rather my amigos live then one of them die...unless its one of my friends I don't like or... if thiss was going to happen and I coincidently kept my friends close and my enemies closer they would probably ask me to kill my enemy thus this would not be a problem....Muhaha.
Well, this took me a bit of thinking but a answere came to my rather quickly. Friendship is not a moral excuse for murder, if I kill my friend I save many other people the pain of loseing family members and friends, my personal code would allow me to do so as it is what I personaly see as right. I find the assumption that what others saw as the correct answere was the only "moral" answere. That said, I would not go strait up and kill my friend, as this would be a betral something I am not going to do. Instead I would sit down and talk to my friend in an attempt to get his feelings on the situtation and what he beleives should be done.
If my friend came and talked to me about it, I would agree that he should kill me. Yes people die every day, but of all the people that die every day I have not had a chance to stop or change this, this is a chance for me to possibly change it.
If I had the option to kill the person who created this situation, even if it would not change the outcome of this inicident I would do so with the aid of my friend before any killing was done, or if the situation made the that impossible after ether the people on the plan died, or I shot my friend with his concent I would hunt the bastard down so that he could never do this again. If our positions were reversed I would ask my friend to kill the one who directed all this after he had shot me.
If my friend came and talked to me about it, I would agree that he should kill me. Yes people die every day, but of all the people that die every day I have not had a chance to stop or change this, this is a chance for me to possibly change it.
If I had the option to kill the person who created this situation, even if it would not change the outcome of this inicident I would do so with the aid of my friend before any killing was done, or if the situation made the that impossible after ether the people on the plan died, or I shot my friend with his concent I would hunt the bastard down so that he could never do this again. If our positions were reversed I would ask my friend to kill the one who directed all this after he had shot me.
Why limit yourself to 10 people? Let's make it a billion. If no one I know dies, I can care less.
Afterward, this gives me the moral imperative to hunt down the terrorists that forced this decision on me. They will live on an isolated island resort. They will have a lavish meal of their choice once a day. And at a time of my choosing, I will escort their families into a room with a one-way mirror, and the terrorist will watch his family be pampered for the day with the luxuries of the West. Then I will break one of his bones.
It will be a different bone every day, each bone allowed to heal until all the rest are broken. Then the cycle starts over. After each break session, the terrorist will be dressed in an Armani suit, designer shoes, and soft leather gloves, to hide the breaks. Only his spine and head will remain unbroken. He will then get to converse with his family through a two-way glass partition. His family will see that his room is equipped with the finest amenities and the most luxurious food. They will see him living a decadent Western life.
The room he is kept in is sound-proofed. His family cannot normally see inside, aside from the two-way partition, but he can see them quite clearly as his children enjoy console games and his wife enjoys women's magazines..all the "evil capitalist influences" of the West. The bone breaking will be done approximately 4 to 5 hours after he falls asleep. If he attempts to tell his family about the torture being inflicted upon him, his fellow conspirators will be executed, with full knowledge of who decided to tattle tale.
Their families will be informed that their loved one mysteriously chose to kill themselves, rather than live in luxury. They will be puzzled and alarmed at the extent of their extremism, and their sons and daughters will not follow in their footsteps. Instead, they will willingly choose to assimilate into American culture, because they have experienced our way of life.
Afterward, this gives me the moral imperative to hunt down the terrorists that forced this decision on me. They will live on an isolated island resort. They will have a lavish meal of their choice once a day. And at a time of my choosing, I will escort their families into a room with a one-way mirror, and the terrorist will watch his family be pampered for the day with the luxuries of the West. Then I will break one of his bones.
It will be a different bone every day, each bone allowed to heal until all the rest are broken. Then the cycle starts over. After each break session, the terrorist will be dressed in an Armani suit, designer shoes, and soft leather gloves, to hide the breaks. Only his spine and head will remain unbroken. He will then get to converse with his family through a two-way glass partition. His family will see that his room is equipped with the finest amenities and the most luxurious food. They will see him living a decadent Western life.
The room he is kept in is sound-proofed. His family cannot normally see inside, aside from the two-way partition, but he can see them quite clearly as his children enjoy console games and his wife enjoys women's magazines..all the "evil capitalist influences" of the West. The bone breaking will be done approximately 4 to 5 hours after he falls asleep. If he attempts to tell his family about the torture being inflicted upon him, his fellow conspirators will be executed, with full knowledge of who decided to tattle tale.
Their families will be informed that their loved one mysteriously chose to kill themselves, rather than live in luxury. They will be puzzled and alarmed at the extent of their extremism, and their sons and daughters will not follow in their footsteps. Instead, they will willingly choose to assimilate into American culture, because they have experienced our way of life.
It takes a while for me to be comfortable not finding assholery flaws in my friends, so those 10 people can go and screw themselves unless they're people of pioneering importance.
This does not include the Royal family, or PM, as talking is not a skill that will get you anywhere.
This does not include the Royal family, or PM, as talking is not a skill that will get you anywhere.
If I killed my friend I would feel terrible because I've killed a person, and one I care about. I'm not a killer. I could never kill someone. If I don't then 10 innocent people (that I don't even know) will be killed by someone else. That blood is on killers, not me. It's not my fault that those killers decided to put their lives in my hands. I don't look at it that way. It's not my responsibility. I would just move on with my life. It's not my problem.
To add to my previous answer, I wouldn't murder 1 person to stop 10 others being killed even if I didn't know the guy I had to kill. I'm not going to murder anyone friend or not to stop the killing of a bunch of other people by someone else.
The world is grossly overpopulated. There's no denying that. So I'd take the friend. Death is never nice, but in this case it would be logical.
I hate these kinds of things, because there is never any certainty what is about to happen. You can choose to save your friend or the others and end up killing them in the process accidentally.
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Another thing, there's never only two choices like this in life. It's never option A or B. It's A or B (or C or D or E or F or e.t.c) it's up to you to be able to see them.
Edit:
Another thing, there's never only two choices like this in life. It's never option A or B. It's A or B (or C or D or E or F or e.t.c) it's up to you to be able to see them.
I'm going to say that I probably wouldn't. Especially if I didn't know those ten people. The problem with the needs of the many argument is that when I have no connection with the many beyond the nebulous idea that they exist and are also people like me, it's hard to care about their hopes and dreams.