XBL Indie Dev Clones Minecraft With FortressCraft
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There are no copyright issues at play. You can't define a genre, and MS is doing nothing wrong by putting it up on xbl, to blast them for making a game that is becoming popular is idiotic and poorly thought out.
Is anyone here going to tell me that 3d realms(makers of duke nukem) should have sued id(quake)? Maybe MS should of sued every single person that made a flight simulator, or will wright should sue everyone who's made a roller coaster tycoon. I could go on. Video games are evelutionary and other companies have every right to take a new genre and make it their own. They didn't steal code, (as far as I know) they didn't steal graphics (and being similar is not stealing). Really people should get back to reality. Competition makes things better.
Is anyone here going to tell me that 3d realms(makers of duke nukem) should have sued id(quake)? Maybe MS should of sued every single person that made a flight simulator, or will wright should sue everyone who's made a roller coaster tycoon. I could go on. Video games are evelutionary and other companies have every right to take a new genre and make it their own. They didn't steal code, (as far as I know) they didn't steal graphics (and being similar is not stealing). Really people should get back to reality. Competition makes things better.
well we'll see what they do with it won't we? but in any case the video didn't show anything that minecraft didn't have. Aside from filling that pool pretty quickly with water, it doesn't seem to have any new mechanics. I'm having a hard time NOT writing it off as just a knockoff but at the same time i'm a little excited to see what they can do, after all, Mojang is taking their sweet time getting new content out for the game. I've been waiting patiently, especially for that monster siege mode, but if someone else beats them to the punch, what can i do except jump on board? In any case this on the X-Box arcade? I don't have one. Also, play minecraft with an X-box controller? EW! please give me back my keyboard! Well i guess it wouldn't be so bad, it's not like this is an FPS or anything when i need the precision of a mouse and keyboard.
It looks pretty though. (yeah, that's all i can really say this thing has going for it)
It looks pretty though. (yeah, that's all i can really say this thing has going for it)
Interesting. I wouldn't touch a game like this with a ten foot pole on a console, I am chiefly a PC gamer. I loves me some minecraft. I also look at it this way, there is no reason why Mojang can't take good ideas from this and add it to Minecraft. As someone else said, you can't copyright gameplay elements.
It looks very similar, with better graphics, this is true. But one of my favorite things about Minecraft is the open mod support. You won't find gun mods people made or teleporting signs or custom texture packs. The only thing that looks better on this than on my PC is really only the water, and I'm not going to lose sleep over that. I am semi-envious of is Fortress Assault mode. But, it's only a matter of time before someone in the community makes it.
I love the authors assessment of Minecraft, has he even played it?
That is already in Minecraft, haha.
It looks very similar, with better graphics, this is true. But one of my favorite things about Minecraft is the open mod support. You won't find gun mods people made or teleporting signs or custom texture packs. The only thing that looks better on this than on my PC is really only the water, and I'm not going to lose sleep over that. I am semi-envious of is Fortress Assault mode. But, it's only a matter of time before someone in the community makes it.
I love the authors assessment of Minecraft, has he even played it?
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That is already in Minecraft, haha.
Haha, they already made serious money. They have sold well over a million units, XBLIG games have nowhere near that success.BioHazardMan said:
Hmmm, interesting, wonder what Notch thinks?
I personally have no need for this game, as I already have Minecraft.
I personally have no need for this game, as I already have Minecraft.
Because the millions he's made(before the game's even done, mind you) just isn't serious enough, right?BioHazardMan said:
That's like saying gee, I've made 50 million dollars, so why in the hell would I want to make 100 million?Nero Haven said:
That logic, doesn't make sense.
Meh, I like it. Now I can play it on my Xbox when the tempermental internet is down. I have to get it on XBL because my parents (yes I'm 14) don't trust the Minecraft site enough to give them the money for the Beta. They trust Microsoft though...
Eh. You can't copyright ideas. If you could, somebody could likely sue just about every major game developer for ripping off certain genres.BrokenBoySoldier said:
They all have a lot in common after all.
The sad thing is, as the article points out, minecraft itself was 'inspired' by an earlier project...
I just looked at the website for that, and if that doesn't look suspiciously similar to Minecraft...
Yeah, anyway, when a seemingly unique idea shows up, people seem to think it can be defended, yet the evidence of history shows only the most blatant clones can really be sued for anything. (even then... Tetris anyone?)
The whole industry copies and refines ideas all the time. We even expect them to, because what would happen if a company tries something unexpected that works differently to the typical ideas?
Yeah... There'd be complaints about it being 'wrong'.
Just as the iPhone was inspired by winMo, bb OS, and palm. OR just how the iPod was inspired by a bunch of products before it. But yea kinect is copy paste. So is windows mobile 7 right?Pugiron said:
Also apple did not win that case in the least bit, they firmly got their asses handed to them (twice if you include the lost appeal).
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apple_Computer,_Inc._v._Microsoft_Corporation
Some idea what your talking about makes you seem less like an idiot.
Yeah but I think us console gamers have probably gotten used to using the Joypad by now so I imagine that it won't be too hard to get used to it. Specially if we haven't played it using a keyboard.Baresark said:
To be quite honest, I prefer the minecraft look. I think it has a retro charm to it all, if I had the choice I'd pick minecraft over this any day. However my computer is a piece of shit when it comes to running games so I'm stuck with this FortressCraft thing. Though I would love it if they managed to port Minecraft to a console.Baresark said:
Usually AFTER the original idea has bygone its age. copying ideas as they are...still fresh? to me, paying for this would be like paying some of the modders who make texture packs for minecraft. its kinda silly. aaand i wish this Dev focused on a more fresh and different idea. this way he just gets called a unoriginal douche.CrystalShadow said:
Depends. Would you want to port to a console you have no interest in to get more money when you have so much money you have no idea what to do with it all?BioHazardMan said:
Still don't think a console version would sell as well as the PC version anyways. What makes you think he'd make double what he has just by putting it on xbox? My xbox-only friends all hate minecraft, even after playing it.
I thought the answer to that question was the incredible complexity of MMO's and RTSes?draythefingerless said:
Minecraft has, what? 7 keys? And that's IF you count WASD. After that it's left click right click and inventory. I don't see why you couldn't play it with a controller at all. Crafting and inventory management would be easy as well, open the menu and a cursor highlights a box and you just control that as you would normally do. The active inventory, you know thouse 8 (or so) items at the bottom of the screen, you could scroll through those with he right and left triggers.
I have no idea what you mean by personalization though.
I wasn't trying to imply that Microsoft was behind it, I was only using them as an example, you could replace Microsoft in that sentence with your asshole publisher of choice, that's up to you. Also, I won't believe that FortressCrap was not made for profit until I get legitimate proof from the indie dev themselves that they made a carbon-copy of Minecraft after the fact for a legitimate non-ripping profit-based reason. "Oh, Minecraft isn't on Xbox, so let's just make our own and put it up there so anyone who doesn't have Minecraft yet can buy it and say 'oh, I was there from the beginning' when the game takes off among non-Minecrafters like crispy M&Ms or something."Pugiron said:
Don't buy it. Maybe wait until you can afford a better computer if you really want a Minecraft experience. Though I'm surprised that there's any computer currently in use by someone that cannot run Minecraft, considering it's java and all.
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