I'm not saying I like it, but just go look any app store "indie" devs copy all the time hoping to make a quick buck and usually do. All I'm saying, and I think you would agree, if you don't support the practice don't buy. It has nothing to do with AAA or not and yes an indie game can still take thousands of dollars to make. If you have just 2 developers who want ot make a living from that that's $100,000 (lowball) right there. They have just as much to loose as the next guy, mainly their personal income or their new business if they took out a loan to cover costs. So I'd argue that indie devs have just as much to loose if not more. Crappy game as a AAA, oh well it cost us some money, crappy indie game? You might be out of a years work and pay. Small shops have the MOST to loose.draythefingerless said:
XBL Indie Dev Clones Minecraft With FortressCraft
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As I said before not going to happen. What ground would they have to sue them on? You can't copyright game mechanics or look and feel. Unless they stole code or artwork it's fair game.standokan said:
It is fine if a game takes some features from another game and adds to it, thats what minecraft did with infiniminer, it is only 1% similar to that game now, however, fortresscraft does not appear to add anything new other than improved graphics, which means it is a blatant ripoff.
Don't worry about it matey, I didn't read it as derogatory. I was just explaining that the more console orientated gamers such as my self would easily get used to controlling it like that. It was sort of to address the whole attitude people have given towards this on a console "Ewww, minecraft without a keyboard" ect.Baresark said:
HAHA called this before xmas, fatty notch should have got his shit together and finished the game before releasing useless items such as cake which broke the game then going off for 1 week vacations to accept awards for his unfinished game.
Incredible idea but minecraft failed due to piss poor management by notch. Shame but its dog eat dog in the video gaming world, wish he had just knuckled down and got his game finished in a reasonable time frame.
Incredible idea but minecraft failed due to piss poor management by notch. Shame but its dog eat dog in the video gaming world, wish he had just knuckled down and got his game finished in a reasonable time frame.
I dont know how you think indie devs actually go out and try and make their primary bread n butter out of their games...thats not true. indie games are MOSTLY developed as a secondary income, hobbie. SOME indie games take some more to make, but thats a fake indienism(i just made up that word). and i didnt say this was the first or last case of blatant shame in indie gaming. i know exactly hwo app stores are. That doesnt make it less shameful and sad. What i said applies to anyone who decides to make a cheap copy of angry birds or something else.Richard Allen said:
Agreed. But to defend apple and ms just a bit, xerox was sitting on it for years and told the group that came up with it, that is was stupid. Had it not been used by them we might not be sitting on this site todayRaiyan 1.0 said:
aaaaaaand how many average joes know how to properly pirate games?Serris said:
i mean, i know how and i know a few people who know how, but the average joe or jane isn't going to do that because all they've heard about it is "viruses" and "illegal"
so again, this is just all-around a better deal, and if you pirate Minecraft, you'd have to learn a whole HOST of new things just to get it to run properly (learning how to get on a private server, learning OF private servers, learning how to mount images, learning the right sites to pirate from... etc etc.)
i don't care if all those things are "easily googled", the average individual would rather just see the price of Minecraft, then look at the price of FortressCraft, and just buy FortressCraft.
Good. If there's one thing Minecraft needs it's some kind of competitor to hopefully make Notch and co. start supporting their game properly.
And I think people have to realize that this is exactly why companies are usually pretty hush-hush about development while it's in progress. You're breaking new ground, doing all the trial-and-error, and someone can watch what you're doing carefully... and then come along with an idea that's just different enough to float, taking the best of your trial (without all the error) and tack on other features with the time and money they've saved on the R&D.Tom Goldman said:
Notch probably knew going into this that his transparency could lead to exactly this sort of thing. And loyalty among the community will ensure most stick with him, even if some do also go to this game.
Folks that are raging: It's just part of the business. Creativity is, after all, the art of disguising your sources. No real bonus points to the folks developing it, but what makes it any different from other clone-and-profit ventures out there? The difference here is just that we know the name and face of the man behind the idea being cloned. But it happens all the time.
I do believe that I should bring out the big guns.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F9t3FREAZ-k
That is an early tech test of minecraft from Notch's youtube page on which he states "This is a very early test of an Infiniminer clone I'm working on."
So people can we knock it off with the "omg itz a clone!!1!" now? MINECRAFT is a clone itself.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F9t3FREAZ-k
That is an early tech test of minecraft from Notch's youtube page on which he states "This is a very early test of an Infiniminer clone I'm working on."
So people can we knock it off with the "omg itz a clone!!1!" now? MINECRAFT is a clone itself.