Xbox Co-Creator Says Consoles Have Won

[infohippie]

So we were at war with something and won...?

Who were we fight/competting against exactly? I'm so confused.

Eurasia. We have always been at war with Eurasia. And the chocolate ration has been increased to 25 grams per week.

OT: Perhaps a more accurate headline would have been "Microsoft exec smokes crack, begins spouting gibberish".

Honestly, he's up there doing his best to say "Look! Look! We're still relevant! Please believe me!"

 

[ResonanceGames]

OT: Perhaps a more accurate headline would have been "Microsoft exec smokes crack, begins spouting gibberish".

Honestly, he's up there doing his best to \say "Look! Look! We're still relevant! Please believe me!"

He hasn't worked at Microsoft in 10 years, and the things he was talking about had nothing to do with the console vs. PC argument.

Even for this site, the reading comprehension on display in this thread is pretty sad.

 

[w00tage]

His definition of "console" crosses well into "PC", because he specified devices that do the same things that PCs do. So PC figures are relevant to his discussion, and Dell and HP have some sales figures that would seem to indicate he's pretty far off the mark.

 

[Rusty pumpkin]

Consoles won what? Was someone fighting?

 

[RDubayoo]

Portable games might be really popular right now but you're not going to get the same experience on an iPad as you can on a console, so the 360's and whatnot are safe for now.

What might REALLY kill traditional consoles is if OnLive and services like it become more popular. Why buy expensive hardware to play games on if you can get someone else to do it for you?

 

[Frostbite3789]

A more apt statement would be that gaming has won.

But who or what was gaming fighting to have won?

Popular culture? I don't know. Whatever Blackley thought consoles were fighting. We beat them!

Does this mean we can have a parade?

 

[winter2]

So everything is a console now? How utterly quaint.

 

[Aprilgold]

A more apt statement would be that gaming has won.

But who or what was gaming fighting to have won?

Itself, but enough talk, *throws wine* HAVE AT YOU!

No, but seriously, no, consoles haven't won since they became multi-media players, so if anything, their the black kignigget who is a looney that thinks he can win while missing all of his limbs.

 

[Soviet Heavy]

Yeah, I'm pretty sure the major rise of gaming with Apple started with STEAM, not consoles. Yes, there were games on the Mac beforehand, but the launch of Steam on the Macbook made the difference.

 

[Aprilgold]

Wow, a whole thread full of people who don't know who Seamus Blackley is, what he's done, or what he stands for, taking something he said out of context and totally missing the point of his spiel. *shock*

This wasn't about PCs vs consoles, people. It was about the Nintendoesque fear that mobile devices were going to kill gaming. What actually happened is that they made it stronger. His use of the term 'console' is just semantics.

If you really want to know what this guy is all about, watch this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xob-A4Nuyq4

(that's Warren Spector, who created Deus Ex interviewing him, BTW.)

He stands for all that is good in gaming, even though Trespasser sucked.

Heres what he stands for, the use of crack on top of his billions of money and will never die because his flying pony dragon-o-corn will protect him forever and ever, so games have won.

I'm kidding, but I HAD to respond to your first line, its just funny.

 

[Sikratua]

Facebook is a console now? How the eff..?

If you spend your time on Facebook primarily playing Farmville, or any of the multitude of games on Facebook, then, yes, Facebook can be seen as a cloud-style gaming platform.

Nope. Consoles have hardware.

So do the computer banks that house Facebook's servers. What's your point?

 

[Numachuka]

Facebook is a console now? How the eff..?

If you spend your time on Facebook primarily playing Farmville, or any of the multitude of games on Facebook, then, yes, Facebook can be seen as a cloud-style gaming platform.

Nope. Consoles have hardware.

So do the computer banks that house Facebook's servers. What's your point?

Just go and have a little think and you'll figure it out soon enough.

 

[infohippie]

OT: Perhaps a more accurate headline would have been "Microsoft exec smokes crack, begins spouting gibberish".

Honestly, he's up there doing his best to \say "Look! Look! We're still relevant! Please believe me!"

He hasn't worked at Microsoft in 10 years, and the things he was talking about had nothing to do with the console vs. PC argument.

Even for this site, the reading comprehension on display in this thread is pretty sad.

So I didn't know he wasn't still working for MS. I don't care either. He's still talking complete nonsense.

 

[Fiz_The_Toaster]

So we were at war with something and won...?

Who were we fight/competting against exactly? I'm so confused.

Eurasia. We have always been at war with Eurasia. And the chocolate ration has been increased to 25 grams per week.

OT: Perhaps a more accurate headline would have been "Microsoft exec smokes crack, begins spouting gibberish".

Honestly, he's up there doing his best to say "Look! Look! We're still relevant! Please believe me!"

I thought it was Oceania...oh well.

Also, I think that's a very appropriate headline, it makes so much sense.

 

[theultimateend]

because every device you can play games on is a console.
*facepalm*

I kinda agree.

If only because Blackberries are owned almost entirely by people not gaming. Of all the handheld phones out there those are the ones vanishing.

So the other phones became consoles that can make phonecalls, as opposed to phones that can play games.

It's very weak, for sure, but I understand his point.

 

[Jaime_Wolf]

Reminds me of the old George Carlin bit:
"And now a message from the National Apple Institute:
'Fuck Pears!"

I wonder why the co-creator of one of the most popular consoles would hold such an opinion.

Also, he's pretty right for the time being. Specific-purpose devices and software are dominating right now. Consoles have far outstripped PC sales and the app model for software has gained significant traction. People like things that are self-contained and relatively simple to understand and it's hard to blame them.

Consoles are a lot easier to deal with than PCs: if it's a 360 game it will run on a 360. You don't need to worry about system requirements, about updating, about messing with settings. Similarly, if you want to install an app on your iPad, you download the app and boom, done. No need to fuss with installations, conflicts, etc.

This used to be the case with pretty much every console before this generation. The consoles are slowly becoming just as complicated as the PC. You don?t have to worry too much about system requirements but if you get a game for the 360, you have to figure out if you need to install it. And if you do, how much space you?ll need. If you?re not connected to the internet with it, you have to figure out if there are any updates that are needed.
Hell, getting Fallout New Vegas working on the PC was a lot less complicated than trying to get it to work on the ps3. If there are texture issues on your PC version, you can fix it or even get a mod to get rid of the error box. But if it?s on your console, you have to completely uninstall everything and re-install ? including any dlc (what was causing that issue) which limits you to the downloads you can make.
The big draw for the consoles used to be that you just throw in your game, turn on the machine and you?re good to go. Unfortunately I think those days are behind us. Between that and the prices of the consoles, I probably wont even bother getting one when the next gen rolls around.

I've had far fewer issues with console games and I think the ease of purchasing a console and keeping it up to date still far oustrips the ease of buying a PC and keeping it up to date, even when everything runs smoothly with no conflicts.

But I think you're right that they're taking on more and more of the issues of PCs, which is yet another reason that I'm skeptical of claims that they'll continue to dominate the market. The only reason to have a dedicated device is excellence at the job it has to do when compared to general-purpose devices. I'm betting that as graphics processing needs start to plateau (we're already nearing that point in some ways with hardware fast approaching the limit of detail an artist can reasonably put in), the consoles will start dying out.

 

[WouldYouKindly]

WTF? Then why can I get better graphics on my PC than my console?

Also, why does one platform have to "win"? I'm certain they can coexist as there are always some games that play better on PC and some that play better on a console. In general, RTS and RPGs play as well or better on a PC while the larger community and simpler controls make consoles good for multiplayer shooters.

 

[awsome117]

lol Micro$uck is the Charlie Sheen of the tech world, everything is a console now didn't you know? Winning!!!

The guy doesn't even work for microsoft any more.

But going on topic, I see what he is saying. Basically, if your device does not have an option/add-on/extension or whatever way to play video games, the device will ultimately fail.

 

[LZeroK]

Everyone full hands on deck, man your battle stations, this! This will be the war of the century an... What? We won? But... Damn it you should have told me sooner, now I have to go back and be a farmer, damn you all!

But seriously, this logic is totally a non sequitor.

One more: There is logic in what he says... NOT!

 

[Sikratua]

So do the computer banks that house Facebook's servers. What's your point?

Just go and have a little think and you'll figure it out soon enough.

I did have a little think, and the only thing I can come up with is that you are trying to be evasive, to give yourself more time to come up with what you falsely believe will be a valid point, but, in reality, can be rendered useless by a single fact.

So, I won't bother asking again, since you're going out of your way to avoid answering a very simple question. Honestly, you're disappointing. And, life's too short for disappointment. I feel no need to respond to you again. Well, at least until you come up with something that actually has some logical merit.