Xbox One Won't Support SDTVs

[SSJBlastoise]

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Prices for HD TV's are fairly decent if you look at the brands that aren't as big. I bought a 32" Soniq TV for $200 and sure, it may not be as good as a Sony or whatever but it does the job just perfectly.

With that statistic about 30% using SD TVs, I'd like to know how many of them are retired or older people who have no interest in newer technology or how many people in that 30% couldn't care less about gaming.

I don't see how this is a controversial move by Microsoft and just seems like people are trying to find ways to hate a company because they have nothing better to do with their time.

 

[uchytjes]

I'll just sit over here, waiting for the cries from Facebook when all my friends back home with their little hand-me-down SD television sets complaining when they find out that their TV doesn't have an HDMI cable.

In other news: Xbone is my new favorite shorthand for referring to the new Xbox, I have even less desire for buying this console now, and it hasn't stopped raining for an hour straight here since the Xbone was revealed.

 

[Xan Krieger]

No Dial-up? Guess they're letting the PS4 have Seattle then
Well they did say it wasn't backwards compatible.

Wait, what? Explain the Seattle and dial-up thing. If Seattle doesn't have decent internet options, I'm going to be pissed.

I can't see the difference between HDTV and SDTV so I have my SDTV and enjoy it. Just another reason I'm glad I'm upgrading my PC this year.

My mind. It is blown. When I got my first HDTV it was when I was playing Homefront. On my SDTV I could tell I was killing some sort of humanoid-like figure that was lighting sparklers off in its hand. Got the HDTV and everything was several times better.

OT: I'll admit, I don't have too much feeling about this or the lack of backwards compatibility. I always considered those types of things as nice bonuses that I will never use. I might actually be a little pissed if I ever found out it took more than minimal effort to implement either one.

Also am I the only one who thinks Xbox Bum is a better degradation of Xbox One than Xbone?

I liked Xbox Done, but far be it for me to fight the winds of change.

I guess I'm just old and my eyes don't work too well (or my eyes lack HD support in which case I might need to purchase new ones from Microsoft)

 

[taciturnCandid]

So, Microsoft just literally lost a sale, here. I have no HD TVs in my house, because I am a poor student, so there is literally no reason for me to buy a brick that I cannot use. Good going Microsoft. Way to alienate a huge number of potential customers. -_-

Here is something I don't get:

If you are a poor student, why would you even be considering to buy an expensive new console?

Because I can save my pennies until I can afford to purchase it, maybe? Just like I did with literally every other console I own?

If you can't afford an HDTV, which will cost less then said new console, you shouldn't be complaining that said console needs said TV.

All of my lols. All the HDTVs of decent size I have ever seen are at least $500 or more. I don't want an HDTV, I am just fine with my SDTV, and I don't want to spend another $500 dollars at least plus whatever the XBone costs when I buy it. You are also assuming that I plan to buy it launch day. I don't, I plan to buy consoles down the line when the hardware kinks are worked out and they are cheaper (again, like I did with all my consoles), like closer to $300 or less. So, in order to actually play the damn thing, I would have to spend more than the value of the console on a TV I don't want or need. You see where the problems come in? Because there are a hell of a lot of problems with cutting out the poor and working class from buying your product, especially when you had previously made that product easily available to them.

I got a 26 inch 1080p one for 140. They really aren't that expensive.

Furthermore, due to the resolution a 26 inch is far easier to read than a 40 inch sdtv and will look big enough to play games on.

The nice thing about hdtv is that you can get by with smaller because it is much clearer.

 

[f1r2a3n4k5]

It's funny how people are so condescending in this article. Yeah I guess I'm one of the "few" people who don't own an HDTV. What about people who's console isn't hooked up to their HDTV? I guess none of us matter huh?

I know, right? This article comes off as incredibly snide. HDTVs being common is very recent.

Some of us don't treat electronics as disposable. We try to be thrifty. Part of that means using the big-honkin' Trinitron from 1995 because it works and it's reliable. ESPECIALLY for secondary TVs. How many of you guys who're claiming it isn't such a big deal still have at least one SDTV as a secondary or tertiary TV?

Plus figure that according to these statistics 30% of their audience needs to either get a new TV or not buy the console.... that's.... incredibly crippling. If you figure the XboxOne claims 70% of the audience PS4 grabs; that's significant enough to sway exclusives to focus on the larger audience.

 

[Sonic Doctor]

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When I first linked that TV it was actually still on sale for £50.

Even so I found several others that were £70-£80.

If you shopped around long enough I'm sure you could knock the price down even further. Point is, HDTV's are relatively (compared to consoles anyway) cheap these days, and you don't need a 50 inch 1080p monster for HD.

I'm working with the US dollar, so your 50 is 75.13 here. But yeah, for a sale, I guess that seems about right. Sales like that don't happen that often though.

But really, we actually seem to be on the same side considering the people complaining price of a new TV when they are looking to buy a console that costs a great deal more. So I'll just leave it at that.

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Because I can save my pennies until I can afford to purchase it, maybe? Just like I did with literally every other console I own?

If you can't afford an HDTV, which will cost less then said new console, you shouldn't be complaining that said console needs said TV.

All of my lols. All the HDTVs of decent size I have ever seen are at least $500 or more. I don't want an HDTV, I am just fine with my SDTV, and I don't want to spend another $500 dollars at least plus whatever the XBone costs when I buy it. You are also assuming that I plan to buy it launch day. I don't, I plan to buy consoles down the line when the hardware kinks are worked out and they are cheaper (again, like I did with all my consoles), like closer to $300 or less. So, in order to actually play the damn thing, I would have to spend more than the value of the console on a TV I don't want or need. You see where the problems come in? Because there are a hell of a lot of problems with cutting out the poor and working class from buying your product, especially when you had previously made that product easily available to them.

Decent size? 500? What the heck do you consider a decent size? Right now you can get a 32 inch for less then $300, and that is more than enough size for playing console games, it is even fine with something smaller, which in turn will cost less.

If the new Xbox will end up costing 400 dollars, the price at the most over three years will drop 100 dollars(it took 7 years for the 360 to drop a total of 200 dollars), at 300 dollars the console will still be more expensive than a low end perfectly fine HDTV.

I'm looking Amazon for my pricing on TVs, which really, if you go to some place like Wal-Mart, you can get a good HDTV for even less than on Amazon, because then you don't have to pay all that extra money for shipping.

Your points just don't work in the real world if you do a little research.

 

[Jodan]

oh well then i will merely have to procure myself a $3000 television set.

oh wait i forgot thats a substantial proportion of my yearly income.

 

[Draconalis]

I think I get what Microsoft is trying to do here...

They are trying to take the luxury of playing games to the next level... If you don't have the money to support your habit in full, then you don't deserve to support it at all. No used games for you! What? You still have an old TV? I hear Sony sells TVs... go talk to them about upgrading? No money for that? Diet of Ramen Noodles? Get out of my sight you dirty poorling!


OR! Maybe this is all a government conspiracy to shut down the gaming industry as a whole so we can stop gun violence.

Just sayin...

 

[Joos]

Well, as someone with ZERO HD TVs in my household, because they're all 90's era, big screen SD ones, this is certainly unfriendly news.

I actually think the last poll found that nearly 30-40% of TV owners still owned SD TVs as their primary television... so that seems like a lot of the market they'll still miss out on.

I. Don't think senior citizens are in the target demographic anyway.

 

[tardcore]

Hark! Whats that noise? Its the sound of Microsoft digging its own grave. Just being who they are this company is already a lightning rod for misdirected hate. Going out of their way to so arrogantly alienate people who would have otherwise been happy customers seems a rather poor business plan.

When only one device won't work with your aging yet still working as intended tech, that device is the one out of step with everyone else. I'm personally seeing the Xbox One akin to the DAT tape of the music world or the Laser Disc of the video world. I also find it hilarious that the article author mentions Betamax, as I feel that in a few years that is exactly how console gamers will remember the Xbox One.

 

[Ed130 The Vanguard]

This is retarded, most new HDTV's have the features Microsoft is banging on about installed as standard.

Having it SD compatible would have opened up a nice market of consumers who want those features but don't/can't shell out for a new TV.

 

[thethird0611]

Oh lord, please dont be apart of that 'Xbone' group. Every time I see a post with that word in it, I immediately throw out all credibility of that post and stop reading. This also include M$ and the such. It feels sooooooooooooo immature.

But about the original topic... I cant specifically say anything good or bad about this. Many people are using Neilson ratings as their go to stat, but we also dont see how many of those people who use SD TV's actually connect an Xbox to it. With the current population, we have a LARGE amount of older adults compared to younger, and they are the most likely to have those older SD TV's.

How can you say anything about the topic if you immediately stopped reading?

I did read the rest of the story here mainly because it wasn't just a normal post on the forum, which is the main area im point the 'immaturity' and such comments. I still felt the need to comment on it though because of the prevalence of those things on the forum.

Also, I like your news write ups, that's just an annoying tidbit on this one, personally.

 

[scorptatious]

Another reason why I won't get this. I still use my ten year old dinosaur of an SDTV.

 

[TheZooblord]

Why was this news post so needlessly antagonistic towards people who still have SDTVs? I am someone who is working hard to make ends meet, and even if I wanted this steaming pile of crap of a console to play games I can get on my 5-year-old-PC anyway, the cost of an XBone being $600-$700 instead of $400-$500 (New TV + Console) is enough of a difference to keep me from even attempting to enjoy it.

I just thought the line about the Nixon era was a little condescending. If everyone wants to keep shelling out untold amounts of money year in and year out, trying to keep up with the circus of a cycle that is maintaining the newest technology, that's fine. But is there really a need to act so elitist and condescending to people who don't want to possess or can't afford the newest technology? You see it when people mock a slow loader in a match of LoL for having a "toaster" for a computer, you see it when its insinuated that anyone without an HDTV (slightly higher resolution football, be still my beating heart) is a caveman. "You don't have shiny stuff, luuuul" isn't that classy when there are just some things that people can't afford.

Maybe I'm reading too much into it. Maybe the Escapist's recent trend towards occasional needlessly sensationalist titles for their news articles has just soured the tone in which I read all their media. Except of course for Jimquisition, Moviebob, and Yatzhee: those three rock and I could never sour on them lol.

 

[SirDeadly]

This really isn't surprising at all. Hell, where I live you can't even watch normal television without a HD digital box thingo. Personally I can never go back to playing in SD again as it looks so terrible compared to HD. Sometimes you just need to move forward with technology.

 

[Sonic Doctor]

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Or maybe

JUST maybe

People who don't already have an HDTV and are perfectly happy with SD don't want to have to spend another $200 dollars just to be able to play a $60 game on a next generation console? especially after paying $500 for the Xbone itself?

It's all matter of circumstances. If you end up having to pay more, you pay more.

I know I won't have the money saved up for the Xbox One when it launches, so what will I do?

That's right, I will wait till I've saved the money to get it.

If I didn't have an HDTV already, what would I do?

That's right, I wouldn't go complaining that I had to get one to play the new console. I would just wait a bit longer till I could afford both.

If you can't afford a luxury, there is no use bellyaching about it.

Besides, if a person is complaining about a little thing like having to wait a little longer to get a TV as well to play the console, then they obviously weren't interested enough to purchase the console in the first place.

If a person is truly interested and wants to get something, they will do what they have to do to get it.

 

[Cecilthedarkknight_234]

Microsoft is literally about to push me over the edge..

 

[likalaruku]

Just replaced all of our SDTVs last year. Can't say I've actually seen any being sold in stores anymore. I was actually looking for one for the kitchen because of the small square shape.

 

[Reyalsfeihc]

Just going to throw this out there to all of the "poor college student" crowd... Pawn Shops. I bought a 32" HDTV from SANYO that surprisingly looks amazing for only $160 with a full year warranty, and it supports digital out, has 3 HDMI ports, can support DVI, and has plenty of Analog inputs.

If you look hard enough, you can find decent sized HDTV's for dirt cheap.

[Edit:] And this is coming from a poor college student.