Xbox One Won't Support SDTVs
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I'm honestly surprised so many of you still have sdtvs. If any of you need a cheap alternative you can get a computer monitor with HDMI in for probably around $200 and it will be 1080p. It won't have speakers, but hey; it's cheap for a reason.
In fact, it might be worth checking to see if your PC monitor already has this feature!
In fact, it might be worth checking to see if your PC monitor already has this feature!
Excuse me, my current primary tv is a very nice large screen SDTV. While I certainly could get a small tv for a couple hundred dollars, to get a hdtv of similar size would be over 1000 dollars. 1000 dollars to replace a perfectly functional tv I would then have no room for and have to get rid of. F*** you XBone.
Theyr called ADAPTORS theyr CHEAP and EASY TO USE, i dont think there is even a point in all this discussion
you dont actually need speakers you can just use any pc speakers you have liying around or just buy some of the dirt cheap ones that are out there (or invest a tiny bit more and get a small 2.1 logitech or creative speakers sistem they still sound like crap but at leas youll get some bass and it will be far better than ANY tv speaker)AC10 said:
The bad thing is, this doesn't just make it incompatible with SD TVs. It also knocks early HDTVs out of the running, both CRT sets and early Plasma/LCD sets. One of my college roommates (and this was only a few years ago) had an LCD set handed down from his uncle, which had initially been purchased in 2004. It completely lacked an HDMI input, although it had both Component and VGA in, either one of which is sufficient for HD video. In fact, the only reason you can't generally get 1080P out of component cables is the reason listed in this article -- HDCP. The cables are plenty capable of it, but the DRM that came along with Blu-Ray won't let the video go out of them at full quality, because there's no way to prevent people from making near perfect copies if you do it that way. Not that that stopped the pirates from getting perfect copies anyway.
What kind of adapters are you talking about? Just getting a box to convert from HDMI to VGA or Component will set you back about $100, and that's assuming you want to hook up to an HD monitor that lacks HDMI, and not downscale things to something an SD TV can work with. Most units like that also introduce input lag, which is bad for gaming.enriquetnt said:
Only reason I have an HDTV is because my old one broke down and in my town nowhere sold SD ones, so I had to HDTV, it's nice, but why not make an option for it like PS3 - 360, some games may not support it, fine I guess... Would still be stupid, but it would better then nothing.
So HDMI is the minimum? That's rough for people with early HD sets.
So HDMI is the minimum? That's rough for people with early HD sets.
Out of curiosity, how big is the TV because my 40 inch screen full HD cost me about the equivalent of $600 USD at the time, was three years back.Ukomba said:
"What's that? You're not rich? Well we're rich. I don't see what the problem is." Um... classism?
I don't know... I feel like this is going to be a problem for enough people for it to... well, be a problem. What I see here is Microsoft once again just telling us to deal with it because it's more convenient for them. I'm really starting to feel like we've become the last thing on Microsoft(and Sony)'s mind. All of a sudden gamers are the secondary, or even tertiary, concern. Why is every announcement about these new systems making me want them less and less? Isn't it supposed to be the opposite? Weren't we nearly crapping ourselves in excitement when the current generation was first coming out?
Also, as I read this news article, I was wondering why it was trying to make poor jokes, and why most of what wasn't a poor joke was idle speculation. Then I realized it was Carter again.
I don't know... I feel like this is going to be a problem for enough people for it to... well, be a problem. What I see here is Microsoft once again just telling us to deal with it because it's more convenient for them. I'm really starting to feel like we've become the last thing on Microsoft(and Sony)'s mind. All of a sudden gamers are the secondary, or even tertiary, concern. Why is every announcement about these new systems making me want them less and less? Isn't it supposed to be the opposite? Weren't we nearly crapping ourselves in excitement when the current generation was first coming out?
Also, as I read this news article, I was wondering why it was trying to make poor jokes, and why most of what wasn't a poor joke was idle speculation. Then I realized it was Carter again.
Higher resolution means you don't need as large of a screen. That huge sdtv it takes to be able to barely read the text on current gen games isn't needed on an hdtv. The same goes for about anything an sdtv does.Ukomba said:
The thing with it is that you can have that huge size as a luxury, but a smaller sized hdtv is actually a lot more effective and easier to see than a bigger sdtv
Proverbial Jon said:
Trishbot said:
This is why I'm on the fence about the issue, these points all have validity to them. On one hand, Proverbial Jon is correct in the sense that they are simply moving forward with technology, as should be expected, as well as having previous examples of the requirements of new hardware being better. The VCR tape became the DVD, which in turn became Blu Ray. The Vinyl records became the Cassette tapes, which then became CDs. In Australia we've just recently lost all analogue signals in favour of digital, which basically forced people to get set top boxes in order to receive digital TV, and you know what? It went off without a hitch, everyone is still watching tv, and no one is really that put out.Capitano Segnaposto said:
HOWEVER, Darwin did once say, "If you specialise, you die" (paraphrased) and the Xbox One does seem to be making itself a very specialised unit which could become it's downfall. The whole needing a HDTV isn't a huge downer, but add in the need to connect once a day to the internet, basic eradication of the used game market, etc. it's starting to look very tough for the majority of people to get proper use out of it. While I wouldn't say Jim Sterling's comment in his recent video on which he said, "only the rich will be able to use the Xbox One" is true, I will say that it looks like it's going to be a very special group of people.
no SD TVs? fine. i mean sure a lot of peopel still use that since Xbox360 cant do better visual. Though if you want your console to run fullHD, you cant cram it into SDTV. so whiel the change is not a good thing, it is somewhat understandable from a new hardware perspective.
Dial-ups. About damn time, dialup is atechnology that died in the 90s and supporting it still is more of a restriction than a feature.
Punchcards. what is that? i never heard of one.
Frankly it should not be called HDTV anymore. Its not high definition, its standart definition, the SD shoudl stand for Small definition as it is actually very small. the world has moved on, its not 90s anymore.
Dial-ups. About damn time, dialup is atechnology that died in the 90s and supporting it still is more of a restriction than a feature.
Punchcards. what is that? i never heard of one.
If you are poor, paying for your studies and saving money for future studies, your not the one to buy new consoles anyway now are you.Capitano Segnaposto said:
How are they telling machinima makers to fuck off? care to elaborate?an annoyed writer said:
Not trying to attack you or anything, but if you really cant see the difference (and not just extragarating to make a point) you should consider getting glasses or using a larger than 10" screen.Xan Krieger said:
excuse me but anyone who has a SDTV with a large screen simply wasted his money, because there is aboslutely no reason to have huge screen on such small resolutions unless you are watching it from another room or trying to show TV to your neighboars through a window. It is not microsofts fault you have done a stupid decision to buying a SDTV instead of HDTV.Ukomba said:
Frankly it should not be called HDTV anymore. Its not high definition, its standart definition, the SD shoudl stand for Small definition as it is actually very small. the world has moved on, its not 90s anymore.
what is foolish is to think that anyone being sane woudl want a next gen games to be portrayed at SDTV resolution. If you are not getting a HD there is pretty much no reaosn for you to get xbox to begin with.Kaulen Fuhs said:
my parents got an early plasma model and use a HDMI covnerter to VGA or w/e those 3 wires are. it cost them 60 LTL, which is around 20 dollars with current dollar prices.Owyn_Merrilin said:
I recently went looknig around thinking i may be buying a new tv/monitor (multipurpose usage). what i found shocked me, how small resolution mdoern new model TVs are. i expected something like 2000p by now, turns out that is for monitors only and 3 times larger TVs still support 720p only. i mean come on why TV manufacturers are that stupid? Ill end buying a mionitor and using it for both things.AC10 said:
Its not so much agasint people like you who just enjoy what they enjoy. its more towards people like, say, if i lsitened to vinyl records, then a new album came out and i would cause an outrage that they didnt print it on vinyl and isntead used a CD, how dare they use newer technology than i like. because thats exactly whats happening in this post.TheZooblord said:
I mean, of all the legit things to whine about guys, we're going with "it doesn't support SDTV?"
I mean, yeah it sucks for people who don't have SDTV, but at some point the industry has to move on. HDTV is FIFTEEN years old. It's older than the Xbox and the Xbox 360. It's had plenty of time to get cheap; heck I bought a nice HDTV 2 years about for about 300 bucks. It's time to let SDTV fall to the wayside.
I mean, yeah it sucks for people who don't have SDTV, but at some point the industry has to move on. HDTV is FIFTEEN years old. It's older than the Xbox and the Xbox 360. It's had plenty of time to get cheap; heck I bought a nice HDTV 2 years about for about 300 bucks. It's time to let SDTV fall to the wayside.
Next thing you know we'll be seeing complaints about how Windows XP is no longer supported........oh wait
"The move has led to speculation that the console will likely be embracing High-bandwidth Digital Content Protection (HDCP)"
So basically, if I understand this part clearly, the Xbone is going to be unfriendly to people wanting to use Capture devices? There are ways around it I suppose seeing as I have a capture card set up with the PS3 but still as for the HDTV aspect, please remember just because 2 thirds of people in america have HDTV's doesn't mean its the same across the world as for the line 'If you can afford this $X00 console you can afford a $X00 HDTV' for some people it comes down to a choice between the two on their budget.
But honestly this really is not a matter I should really be commenting on, I don't plan to get an Xbone there is nothing about it that attracts me and it seems like one of Xbones major selling point won't even work in the UK.
So basically, if I understand this part clearly, the Xbone is going to be unfriendly to people wanting to use Capture devices? There are ways around it I suppose seeing as I have a capture card set up with the PS3 but still as for the HDTV aspect, please remember just because 2 thirds of people in america have HDTV's doesn't mean its the same across the world as for the line 'If you can afford this $X00 console you can afford a $X00 HDTV' for some people it comes down to a choice between the two on their budget.
But honestly this really is not a matter I should really be commenting on, I don't plan to get an Xbone there is nothing about it that attracts me and it seems like one of Xbones major selling point won't even work in the UK.