Xbox One's Reputation System Locks Harassers Into Their Own Hell

[thethird0611]

Is anyone actually going to read that it isnt an automated system? It probably works that when a Xbox Live mod investigates you, they can drop you down a level if they see something wrong.

Seriously, all the freaking Microsoft haters on this freakin site.

And no, I dont intend to get an X1, but fucking seriously, please read and say "Oh, thats a good thing, except for the rest of your console."

EDIT: Only read the first page, mah bad awesome people at the top of Page 2. Just got off my run and feel exhausted.

 

[Aeonknight]

They do realize they are making an Xbox right? Jesus Christ the moment you buy an Xbox you tell the store clerk that he is a camping Twat for staying behind the counter for to many seconds. I'm sorry but 90% of the people who are going to buy a xbox one swear like a sailor.

As fun as overgeneralizations are, my experience has been that most people don't talk at all. And the ones that do are promptly muted if they're annoying/blasting crappy music.

 

[MammothBlade]

How dare they... griefing is a legitimate recreational activity!

That and think of how many people are going to abuse the system to take down anyone who beats them, really good players could get in hot water fast for "cheating".

 

[Insideout Ink Demon]

well done MS.great idea (first in a while)
had a convo a long time ago about a similar idea

 

[Silk_Sk]

I would hope that reputation also affects ones ability to judge the reputation of others. I can see a lot of assholes just throwing out negative points everywhere. I'd be more comfortable knowing they can't do a whole lot of damage.

 

[Arawn]

Like everyone else I think it sounds nice, but can't function without alot of man power and moderation on MS's part. I recall playing a FPS for the first time, I think it was a F2P game or something, and I sucked at it. No, I was getting my butt kicked left and right for nearly an hour. From match to match I slowly got better. Fast forward and I got into a match where I hit my stride. I started getting more kills than deaths. When the match ended I got message from a player on the opposite team "You're a hacker, I'm going to report you." I tried to respond, but he had blocked me. Seems I had killed him more than 4 times in the previous match. I do well in one match out of six (or eight) and I'm suddenly a hacker? Nothing came of it, but just sore losers or jerks might abuse such a system. Is MS going to investigate each claim? Maybe they're going to use the Kinetic 2.0 to confirm things. That would make sense. Playback of the incident through their all seeing eye.

 

[BlackMageBob]

Hah. This sounds great. You mean I'll have to abuse a few casuals before I'm shunted into a hardcore-only bracket?

Fuck yes.

 

[Amir Kondori]

Oh good, so when I consistently win in multi I'll have sour kids downvote/rep/whatever me. Great system, can't be abused at all.
On gears 3 I'd have a rage message at least once a day, never did anything to provoke, just played the game. But I can guarantee that people who enjoyed playing with me didn't upvote me, so as far as this sort of system is concerned I'm just a raging asshole who a lot of people hate.

Brilliant.

You are assuming that it will work through votes. If that is true then Microsoft's new system is a failure before it even begins. I don't think they are taking such a simple approach though. Either way it will be interesting to see how it plays out.

 

[Something Amyss]

Except assholes are assholes and will happily abuse the system to Reputation down all the non-assholes too, just so they can continue to be assholes to them.

Especially since they do like to work in packs on the 360, like Hyenas. Means they can ruin your rep allot easier than your one vote against them.

Most of my negative feedback on the 360 is due to "trash talking," which is funny considering I rarely use a mic outside of parties with my friends. Several of my friends have this as well. So yeah, I can imagine this will be a clusterfuck once people decide to start abusing it.

Also, I'm yet to see a single person get so much as a suspension for sexual/racial/sexuality base harassment. Including this one dude who kept stalking me and sending me messages calling me a ****** (and telling me to kill myself or die or whatever else he could come up with). They say they take this seriously, but...I don't believe them.

 

[FinalDream]

Sounds a good idea to me, something MS have done right! However it will really be Call of Duty: Ghosts - as there will be no one on it!

 

[Something Amyss]

You are assuming that it will work through votes.

Because they're naming it after their current system that relies on user feedback (votes).

Even the statements seem to imply this. The only exception is the bit about it not being automatic, and that is proceeded by a statement that makes it look less than reviewed.

 

[Imperioratorex Caprae]

**snip**

It's non-automated, so it can't be abused from the player-end. It's based on "offenses", so it's reviewed by a moderator.

There's a terrible plague circulating these forums, and its main symptom is "inability to read the OP". Keep yourself safe, folks: Don't just skim the first post before offering your stance.

I see this a lot on this forum. Especially when it has to do with the XBone. I get it, people here don't like microsoft and are happy to bash it every chance they get. It doesn't matter what the OP says, they'll ignore it anyway or read what they want out of it. Sad really because to hate something at all takes an amount of caring and that takes energy. Energy best spent on something else.
OT: I've read the numerous responses on the XBL's current rep system... I have played since 2007 online, many different MP matches and styles and have yet to dip below 5 stars, even when I was running the maps in FFA/TD Modern Warfare 2. It makes me wonder what games these low rep "great people" played and how. Mass rep reporting just seems like something the XBLPET would catch on to and adjust accordingly.

 

[A Curious Fellow]

... Yeah I'm still not shelling out for this system until or unless they drop the Kinect requirement.

 

[actar411]

The only thing that I don't like about this is that occasionally, especially when I'm playing SWAT, I get frustrated and swear complaining of my own skill level. I don't want to end up with the people that would call me a "******" or any other derogatory word. I think that swearing should just be looked at as normal. It's the insults that matter.

 

[Subscriptism]

I can't imagine anything better than throwing all the vulgar twelve year old in one eternal gaming pit of hell.

 

[Olas]

it might work a bit better if there was an automated review of what has been said ingame.

say you get 3 or 4 downvotes in a game after whatever arbitrary level they choose. once that is passed all your chat logs for said game are downloaded and a voice recognition is run for key words. if you been quiet all game or not said anything bad or insulting then noting happens if you are doing the normall round of "noob" and you "mums so fat" jokes then the downvote stands.

People would just find ways to circumvent it, they'd invent or modify new versions of curse words that it wouldn't recognize, or speak in an accent it can't understand, or something. Douchebaggery will find a way.

Plus, using swear words isn't the same as being offensive. You can be offensive without saying any naughty words and vice versa you can curse in a non-offensive manner.

It would take a pretty advanced AI to tell when someone is trying to be offensive and when they're just complaining about the game or being sarcastic.

 

[Lightknight]

Better muting services would be best. My favorite feature of blackops 2? A mute lobby button. What I'd also like is a mute everyone in the game by default option.

 

[CaptainThom]

Wow i don't understand how the developers cant see how this can and will be manipulated. To be honest im not overly fond of any matchmaking system id much prefer dedicated servers.

 

[weirdee]

I guess the other advantage of having Big Brother around is that nobody can log into your account and sabotage it unless they're your evil twin or something...

 

[CardinalPiggles]

When I used to play CoD4 so much my rep went to about 73% downvotes for "Unsporting behavior".

In fact, this is exactly what the Xbox 360 has isn't it? So they're basically improving the reputation system.