Xbox Owner Sues Microsoft for $500 Billion (Yes, Billion)

[xXAsherahXx]

His case is actually sorta air tight. I think the guy is a total douchebag and should really stop making an ass of himself, but it isn't like you can say he is in error.

Go for 1 million, not everything the company owns.

How is it airtight?

He said that if they don't respond, Microsoft owes him 500 billion. Not much to argue about with that. I don't approve of his actions but it isn't like you can find a fault with his logic there if you think about it from his prospective.

 

[Killertje]

I doubt he's actually expecting money, so if the courts decide against him the companies cant pull that shit anymore either. Go guy!

 

[Bors Mistral]

Aha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-haaaah...

Sorry, that's the best I've got. Anything else is just pointless.

 

[artanis_neravar]

His case is actually sorta air tight. I think the guy is a total douchebag and should really stop making an ass of himself, but it isn't like you can say he is in error.

Go for 1 million, not everything the company owns.

How is it airtight?

He said that if they don't respond, Microsoft owes him 500 billion. Not much to argue about with that. I don't approve of his actions but it isn't like you can find a fault with his logic there if you think about it from his prospective.

Other then the fact that he made sure they wouldn't get it in time, and the fact that they never signed the contract amendments that he sent them. Not responding is not the same as agreeing, especially because if he doesn't agree to the terms of the contract then it is up to him to cancel his subscription.

 

[artanis_neravar]

I doubt he's actually expecting money, so if the courts decide against him the companies cant pull that shit anymore either. Go guy!

And if[read: when] he loses he ends up owing Microsoft for all of their legal fees.

 

[xXAsherahXx]

His case is actually sorta air tight. I think the guy is a total douchebag and should really stop making an ass of himself, but it isn't like you can say he is in error.

Go for 1 million, not everything the company owns.

How is it airtight?

He said that if they don't respond, Microsoft owes him 500 billion. Not much to argue about with that. I don't approve of his actions but it isn't like you can find a fault with his logic there if you think about it from his prospective.

Other then the fact that he made sure they wouldn't get it in time, and the fact that they never signed the contract amendments that he sent them. Not responding is not the same as agreeing, especially because if he doesn't agree to the terms of the contract then it is up to him to cancel his subscription.

I understand that entirely, and agree, but he also covered that in his original letter so...

 

[Sgt Blackout]

Wish people would stop claiming "Trolololol" without thinking about it for a damn second. He's gone for an amount 6x bigger than the total assets of Microsoft. He's refusing to hand over evidence. Is it not clear he's trying to throw the case?

It'll set legal precedent. Stopping major companies from doing the exact same thing back to him is what he's aiming to do, but apparently some people are too blind to see that. Hopefully the Judge will see what he's doing, but I can't see that happening either.

 

[Killertje]

I doubt he's actually expecting money, so if the courts decide against him the companies cant pull that shit anymore either. Go guy!

And if[read: when] he loses he ends up owing Microsoft for all of their legal fees.

Small price to pay for an update to the law methinks. I'd totally donate him $1 if I was an American.

 

[FFHAuthor]

Ironically, he probably would have made more of a point and gotten a greater amount of support if he'd only made the claim for one dollar. If his actual goal were to prove a point and win a victory against Microsoft and EULA's, then making it over a dollar would've insulated him from the inevitable 'He's just looking for a payday!' response that's being kicked around in every other post here.

Technically, US Contract law is a very muddled mess. Verbal agreements and handshakes are considered legally binding in some states, I'd be curious to know Washington State's contract laws and how they operate, that could be the deciding factor as to whether or not he actually has a case, or if this is just a klutzy move that belongs on Reality TV.

 

[Agent Larkin]

y'know if he wins my faith in humanity will be restored.

Not because I think he's on to something or anything but because it will show that mega-corps aren't untouchable.

 

[artanis_neravar]

Ironically, he probably would have made more of a point and gotten a greater amount of support if he'd only made the claim for one dollar. If his actual goal were to prove a point and win a victory against Microsoft and EULA's, then making it over a dollar would've insulated him from the inevitable 'He's just looking for a payday!' response that's being kicked around in every other post here.

Technically, US Contract law is a very muddled mess. Verbal agreements and handshakes are considered legally binding in some states, I'd be curious to know Washington State's contract laws and how they operate, that could be the deciding factor as to whether or not he actually has a case, or if this is just a klutzy move that belongs on Reality TV.

Microsoft never entered into a verbal agreement, or handshake with him beyond their original EULA though

 

[Awexsome]

*sighs* I swear people ACTUALLY think that this guy is some kind of hero in making a point about the mega evil corporations in suits all plotting how to screw them over.

We get it. People like to hate the corporations who try to make money from you. And most of these, "shady" business tactics people hate usually have a logical explanation behind it. But fuck logic, they're obviously evil corporations...

 

[FFHAuthor]

Ironically, he probably would have made more of a point and gotten a greater amount of support if he'd only made the claim for one dollar. If his actual goal were to prove a point and win a victory against Microsoft and EULA's, then making it over a dollar would've insulated him from the inevitable 'He's just looking for a payday!' response that's being kicked around in every other post here.

Technically, US Contract law is a very muddled mess. Verbal agreements and handshakes are considered legally binding in some states, I'd be curious to know Washington State's contract laws and how they operate, that could be the deciding factor as to whether or not he actually has a case, or if this is just a klutzy move that belongs on Reality TV.

Microsoft never entered into a verbal agreement, or handshake with him beyond their original EULA though

Just throwing out a 'for instance' on how convoluted and disturbing the laws can be.

 

[Kopikatsu]

Wish people would stop claiming "Trolololol" without thinking about it for a damn second. He's gone for an amount 6x bigger than the total assets of Microsoft. He's refusing to hand over evidence. Is it not clear he's trying to throw the case?

It'll set legal precedent. Stopping major companies from doing the exact same thing back to him is what he's aiming to do, but apparently some people are too blind to see that. Hopefully the Judge will see what he's doing, but I can't see that happening either.

... ... ...Every. Single. Thread.

Every single thread on the Escapist ends up having 'It'll set a legal precedent.' in it. Doesn't matter what the thread is about, that phrase ends up in it.

This will do nothing. He'll end up paying Microsoft's legal fees (If for SOME reason this manages to make it to court and the judge doesn't just laugh in his face and deny his claim for being retarded, which they can do) and that will be the end of the story.

 

[artanis_neravar]

*sighs* I swear people ACTUALLY think that this guy is some kind of hero in making a point about the mega evil corporations in suits all plotting how to screw them over.

We get it. People like to hate the corporations who try to make money from you. And most of these, "shady" business tactics people hate usually have a logical explanation behind it. But fuck logic, they're obviously evil corporations...

Thank you someone who sees the truth. People keep acting like companies like Microsoft change their contracts with you without any notice or letting you to read and actually accept the new terms.

"Heroes" are the couple who dealt with Bank of America.
In case someone doesn't know what I'm talking about
Bank of America tried to foreclose on a couples house who didn't have a mortgage with them. The couple took them to court and won, then Bank of America refused to pay them their winnings so they went to the sheriff and together they foreclosed on the local branch of Bank of America taking everything that wasn't attached to the floor.

 

[viranimus]

Ahh.. I adore how people not only want to defend corporations but they also wish to jump in front of a speeding bus for the privilege to do so.

Yeah the guy might not win anything, but It does my heart good to see someone calling bullshit where bullshit is completely due. Honestly, we need more people like this, assburgers or not.

 

[artanis_neravar]

Ironically, he probably would have made more of a point and gotten a greater amount of support if he'd only made the claim for one dollar. If his actual goal were to prove a point and win a victory against Microsoft and EULA's, then making it over a dollar would've insulated him from the inevitable 'He's just looking for a payday!' response that's being kicked around in every other post here.

Technically, US Contract law is a very muddled mess. Verbal agreements and handshakes are considered legally binding in some states, I'd be curious to know Washington State's contract laws and how they operate, that could be the deciding factor as to whether or not he actually has a case, or if this is just a klutzy move that belongs on Reality TV.

Microsoft never entered into a verbal agreement, or handshake with him beyond their original EULA though

Just throwing out a 'for instance' on how convoluted and disturbing the laws can be.

Oh ok I see, I apologize then

Wish people would stop claiming "Trolololol" without thinking about it for a damn second. He's gone for an amount 6x bigger than the total assets of Microsoft. He's refusing to hand over evidence. Is it not clear he's trying to throw the case?

It'll set legal precedent. Stopping major companies from doing the exact same thing back to him is what he's aiming to do, but apparently some people are too blind to see that. Hopefully the Judge will see what he's doing, but I can't see that happening either.

... ... ...Every. Single. Thread.

Every single thread on the Escapist ends up having 'It'll set a legal precedent.' in it. Doesn't matter what the thread is about, that phrase ends up in it.

This will do nothing. He'll end up paying Microsoft's legal fees (If for SOME reason this manages to make it to court and the judge doesn't just laugh in his face and deny his claim for being retarded, which they can do) and that will be the end of the story.

Agreed, precedents are not set by throwing a court case, they are set by doing things right. Not to mention that Microsoft has never pulled anything like this.

I do love how people only see contracts as a way for the company to cheat them. Like those vonage commercials (A no contract phone service) people think "Oh well no contract means no hidden fees", and they don't realize "No contract means vonage can raise your rates every month and there isn't a damn thing you can do about it, in fact since you didn't sign a contract they might not be obligated to inform you of the change (not completely sure about that though)

 

[Kopikatsu]

His case is actually sorta air tight. I think the guy is a total douchebag and should really stop making an ass of himself, but it isn't like you can say he is in error.

Go for 1 million, not everything the company owns.

How is it airtight?

He said that if they don't respond, Microsoft owes him 500 billion. Not much to argue about with that. I don't approve of his actions but it isn't like you can find a fault with his logic there if you think about it from his prospective.

He sent in alterations he wanted to be made, and said that since they neither accepted not denied it, then they accepted it by default.

It doesn't work that way. If you don't accept a ToS, does it magically become accepted ten days later? 'Course not.

This guy has absolutely ZERO power in this situation. He doesn't provide the service in question, he's using it. By using it, he already agreed to the company's ToS. 'Entitled twat' doesn't even scratch the surface of this describing this kind of behavior.

 

[RedDeadFred]

Honestly, if this actually gets serious, Microsoft will probably just arrange an "accident" for this fellow.