Or he's incredibly anti-social and tends to focus a great deal of interest into something. Sadly, that seems to be legal disputes here, but he's interpreting how to manipulate the court wrong.Fronzel said:
Xbox Owner Sues Microsoft for $500 Billion (Yes, Billion)
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Some time ago a programmer figured out that every piece of music that could potentially be written can be broken down into short segments. So he wrote a program that generated every bit of song that could ever be written and saved it, it was a large but manageable amount of data. We're talking just rythyms here. In order to enforce a copyright all you have to do is be able to show you did something first, you don't have to file.
So in essence, by the wording of current copyright law, this programmer owns every beat created after 2008 or so. He never seriously pursued a cent. Why would he go to such lengths? To beat failures out of the system. Without people doing things like this, exposing loopholes or just shortcomings in law, then said loopholes and shortcomings just get to be abused.
The whole damn point is that if some software company can just change the EULA on a whim then you are giving them money for nothing. Like the folks that bought PS3's to run linux on. Sony advocated that, it wasn't an EULA breach. People bought them for budget super-computing. Then one day sony says that's not OK anymore, even though we both agreed on a contract at the outset and you paid us, we're going to unilaterally change it and if you don't like it enjoy your 500 dollar paperweight.
So then why ask for something ridiculous and use an obviously retarded "contract" to do it? It's called reductio ad absurdum. What he's trying to do IS stupid. It's also legal. Thats the point. If you say its legal to change a contract in the way EULAs are changed, this is a logical ramification of that. This is stupid, so maybe by extension the current rules are stupid. The guy got at least 5 pages worth of forum posters to read about his case, unfortunately the entire point seems to have blasted right over almost everyone's head.
By the way:
By reading the above text you agree to cede the ownership of every game account you have ever owned, and the entire contents of your porn stash to MartialArc. Your continued use of this post is your express consent to abide by the terms of the contract. If you do not agree to this EULA, you must terminate the relationship by cutting off your left testicle and shave off your eye brows. Written notice must be provided in blood within 17 nanoseconds to my mailbox in Moldova. Please post evidence of shaved eyebrows to this forum thread.
So now I'm guessing most folks would probably ignore the first line and just read on, so I'm expecting loads of logins and porn in my inbox, or loads of eyebrowless face pics. Herp Derp.
Some time ago a programmer figured out that every piece of music that could potentially be written can be broken down into short segments. So he wrote a program that generated every bit of song that could ever be written and saved it, it was a large but manageable amount of data. We're talking just rythyms here. In order to enforce a copyright all you have to do is be able to show you did something first, you don't have to file.
So in essence, by the wording of current copyright law, this programmer owns every beat created after 2008 or so. He never seriously pursued a cent. Why would he go to such lengths? To beat failures out of the system. Without people doing things like this, exposing loopholes or just shortcomings in law, then said loopholes and shortcomings just get to be abused.
The whole damn point is that if some software company can just change the EULA on a whim then you are giving them money for nothing. Like the folks that bought PS3's to run linux on. Sony advocated that, it wasn't an EULA breach. People bought them for budget super-computing. Then one day sony says that's not OK anymore, even though we both agreed on a contract at the outset and you paid us, we're going to unilaterally change it and if you don't like it enjoy your 500 dollar paperweight.
So then why ask for something ridiculous and use an obviously retarded "contract" to do it? It's called reductio ad absurdum. What he's trying to do IS stupid. It's also legal. Thats the point. If you say its legal to change a contract in the way EULAs are changed, this is a logical ramification of that. This is stupid, so maybe by extension the current rules are stupid. The guy got at least 5 pages worth of forum posters to read about his case, unfortunately the entire point seems to have blasted right over almost everyone's head.
By the way:
By reading the above text you agree to cede the ownership of every game account you have ever owned, and the entire contents of your porn stash to MartialArc. Your continued use of this post is your express consent to abide by the terms of the contract. If you do not agree to this EULA, you must terminate the relationship by cutting off your left testicle and shave off your eye brows. Written notice must be provided in blood within 17 nanoseconds to my mailbox in Moldova. Please post evidence of shaved eyebrows to this forum thread.
So now I'm guessing most folks would probably ignore the first line and just read on, so I'm expecting loads of logins and porn in my inbox, or loads of eyebrowless face pics. Herp Derp.
There was a kid in my percussion group that had asperger's, he loved to use it as a get out of jail free card. He was always acting like a little shit, giving everyone attitude, then would ***** and moan when we didn't treat him like a prince.Celtic_Kerr said:
Based on my experience with a kid, I'm going to say he's just an asshole who thinks he is untouchable because of a handicap.
He said that if they don't respond, Microsoft owes him 500 billion. Not much to argue about with that. I don't approve of his actions but it isn't like you can find a fault with his logic there if you think about it from his prospective.artanis_neravar said:
Aha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-haaaah...
Sorry, that's the best I've got. Anything else is just pointless.
Sorry, that's the best I've got. Anything else is just pointless.
Other then the fact that he made sure they wouldn't get it in time, and the fact that they never signed the contract amendments that he sent them. Not responding is not the same as agreeing, especially because if he doesn't agree to the terms of the contract then it is up to him to cancel his subscription.xXAsherahXx said:
And if[read: when] he loses he ends up owing Microsoft for all of their legal fees.Killertje said:
I understand that entirely, and agree, but he also covered that in his original letter so...artanis_neravar said:
Wish people would stop claiming "Trolololol" without thinking about it for a damn second. He's gone for an amount 6x bigger than the total assets of Microsoft. He's refusing to hand over evidence. Is it not clear he's trying to throw the case?
It'll set legal precedent. Stopping major companies from doing the exact same thing back to him is what he's aiming to do, but apparently some people are too blind to see that. Hopefully the Judge will see what he's doing, but I can't see that happening either.
It'll set legal precedent. Stopping major companies from doing the exact same thing back to him is what he's aiming to do, but apparently some people are too blind to see that. Hopefully the Judge will see what he's doing, but I can't see that happening either.
Ironically, he probably would have made more of a point and gotten a greater amount of support if he'd only made the claim for one dollar. If his actual goal were to prove a point and win a victory against Microsoft and EULA's, then making it over a dollar would've insulated him from the inevitable 'He's just looking for a payday!' response that's being kicked around in every other post here.
Technically, US Contract law is a very muddled mess. Verbal agreements and handshakes are considered legally binding in some states, I'd be curious to know Washington State's contract laws and how they operate, that could be the deciding factor as to whether or not he actually has a case, or if this is just a klutzy move that belongs on Reality TV.
Technically, US Contract law is a very muddled mess. Verbal agreements and handshakes are considered legally binding in some states, I'd be curious to know Washington State's contract laws and how they operate, that could be the deciding factor as to whether or not he actually has a case, or if this is just a klutzy move that belongs on Reality TV.
y'know if he wins my faith in humanity will be restored.
Not because I think he's on to something or anything but because it will show that mega-corps aren't untouchable.
Not because I think he's on to something or anything but because it will show that mega-corps aren't untouchable.
Microsoft never entered into a verbal agreement, or handshake with him beyond their original EULA thoughFFHAuthor said:
*sighs* I swear people ACTUALLY think that this guy is some kind of hero in making a point about the mega evil corporations in suits all plotting how to screw them over.
We get it. People like to hate the corporations who try to make money from you. And most of these, "shady" business tactics people hate usually have a logical explanation behind it. But fuck logic, they're obviously evil corporations...
We get it. People like to hate the corporations who try to make money from you. And most of these, "shady" business tactics people hate usually have a logical explanation behind it. But fuck logic, they're obviously evil corporations...
... ... ...Every. Single. Thread.Sgt Blackout said:
Every single thread on the Escapist ends up having 'It'll set a legal precedent.' in it. Doesn't matter what the thread is about, that phrase ends up in it.
This will do nothing. He'll end up paying Microsoft's legal fees (If for SOME reason this manages to make it to court and the judge doesn't just laugh in his face and deny his claim for being retarded, which they can do) and that will be the end of the story.
Thank you someone who sees the truth. People keep acting like companies like Microsoft change their contracts with you without any notice or letting you to read and actually accept the new terms.Awexsome said:
"Heroes" are the couple who dealt with Bank of America.
In case someone doesn't know what I'm talking about
Bank of America tried to foreclose on a couples house who didn't have a mortgage with them. The couple took them to court and won, then Bank of America refused to pay them their winnings so they went to the sheriff and together they foreclosed on the local branch of Bank of America taking everything that wasn't attached to the floor.
Ahh.. I adore how people not only want to defend corporations but they also wish to jump in front of a speeding bus for the privilege to do so.
Yeah the guy might not win anything, but It does my heart good to see someone calling bullshit where bullshit is completely due. Honestly, we need more people like this, assburgers or not.
Yeah the guy might not win anything, but It does my heart good to see someone calling bullshit where bullshit is completely due. Honestly, we need more people like this, assburgers or not.