Yahtzee is going to murder Saints Row: The Third.

[Maximum_Power_Cheese_Supreme]

so much of the good stuff is compeltly gone. yes its more wacky and over the top but too much that made SR2 a great game is gone, making SR3 just a "good" game.

many aspects of SR3 will appeal to him like no other game has but i feel that SR2 will seem the better overall in his eyes.

I would've had the first post here, and I was pleased with what I had written, but before I could post, the escapist said 'no you don't' and flicked me back to the previous page, and when I returned my text was gone. But I will try and re-create what I had said.

Yahtzee's probably not going to murder Saints Row, it's more likely he'll be saying "I knew it". This has been a very over-hyped game unfortunately, and though I haven't gotten around to playing it yet, it will depend on whether there is more surprise content than what has already been "spoiled" in the trailers.

I think Volition and Rockstar do this to themselves. Can't they get together for a friendly cup of tea to work things out and say, look we'll do the more wacky type of sandbox game that's our type of thing, and well do our gritty sandbox game that's what we enjoy making, but just because that's our things doesn't mean we have to go in extreme polar opposites. Stop Saints Row from becoming constant zombies and blowing up peoples testicles, and stop GTA from becoming a painstaking realism simulator where you have to carpool your cousin for bowling and darts (before you get to do anything fun in the story). We can do a healthy balance of structure, and of the kind of silliness that videogames are meant for.

But they seem to want to go in opposite directions to distance themselves from each other and keep within their "demographic", even though GTA was doing it fine from 3 to San Andreas.

If they joined forces we could see a city-sandbox game that would make Goldilocks shit her pants.

 

[Snotnarok]

The Third is worse than 2? Could have fooled me after playing a bunch of it already. Did 2 have:

Spoiler

car crushing tanks, laser guns and mind controlling octopuses, VOTL future jets, mini A-10c warthog, as crazy missions, nut-and-run, cruise missile laptop, a car that fires people from a cannon, and real co-op?

There's a lot more to this one it seems.

And even if he did tear it up, that's what he does, even if he loves a game he'll find a nit to magnify, pick and rant about. That's what makes it entertaining.

 

[Maximum_Power_Cheese_Supreme]

If anyone actually listened to Yahtzee's opinions, no one would play anything except for Silent Hill 2 over and over again.

I'm not sure but I think in a retrospective review (possibly for Silent Hill 3) he might've mentioned some flaws with 2.

Regardless, a real Yahtzee fan knows that he is very biased towards things he likes or has a nostalgic connection with, he always gives an explanation to what he does or doesn't like in the game he's reviewing, and if you can use practical puzzle solving skills you should be able to figure out whether a game he hates is something you might be interested in or vice-versa.

He likes games that are different to what else is currently being offered, and do it well, which is why he liked Saints Row 2 in the first place.

 

[Zeema]

so your a Psychic i was unaware you could tell what peoples opinions are when they haven't barely said alot about said Game.

[Extreme Sarcasm]

 

[masticina]

I actually like SR3 over SR2, mostly because I am not forced to do side missions to go with the main missions.

See I might actually be able to play that game with only having to do those missions ONCE.

 

[ImmortalDrifter]

So what? He brutally rips on games he actually enjoys.

Also, why does this matter? Do you treat Yahtzee as some kind of prophet? And you somehow gain something from predicting his opinion? Really?

As for my two cents, the only thing that really annoys me is the removal of improvised weapons. I want to walk over to a fire hydrant and be able to rip it out of the ground using only the unimaginable force of how awesome I am. (and they fucked up the vehicle controls, but so does every fucking game that actually gets them right previously. I'm looking at you BF3)

 

[Robert Ewing]

I kinda think there may be a chance of Yahtzee liking it. I hope they haven't ruined it for him.

 

[Nesco Nomen]

I watch Yatzee's reviews because they are funny and a evil pleasure not because he did competent reviews of games.

Its sort of like watching a monkey flinging poo. It might make you laugh, but you wouldn't do it yourself and you don't make decisions based on where the poo lands.

I don't get it.
You base decisions on exactly opposite where the poo lands?
You don't need a monkey - you fling your own poo?
...

??

 

[Duffeknol]

so much of the good stuff is compeltly gone. yes its more wacky and over the top but too much that made SR2 a great game is gone, making SR3 just a "good" game.

many aspects of SR3 will appeal to him like no other game has but i feel that SR2 will seem the better overall in his eyes.

Who cares about his opinion anyway
I believe he said somewhere that you should not look to other people for a 'yay' or 'nay' on buying games. Can't remember for the life of me what episode. He will take the piss out of it no matter what. He's a cynic

It's what he does.

This is the opinion on Yahtzee I dislike. Yes, he's a cynic, but he's also a pro who actually knows what he's talking about. You can't always dismiss everything he says just because he's a cynic, most of his criticism is very valid, and he's just the only person brave enough to bring it up.

I remember an article a while back, a discussion between Yahtzee and a Gearbox guy. Yahtzee brought up the fact that Borderlands was a boring as shit game (for numerous reasons), and the developer just laughed it off with 'oh Yahtzee, you silly cynic'. Thing was, Yahtzee was right.

 

[Insideout Ink Demon]

If anyone actually listened to Yahtzee's opinions, no one would play anything except for Silent Hill 2 over and over again.

and Dizzy, dont forget Dizzy

 

[Something Amyss]

I hardly expcet glowing armiration...but Im having a blast so far

"so much of the good stuff is compeltly gone" could you care to explain that?

and anyway..in the end its just yahtzees opinion..some people take it too seriously

Yeah, I must be missing what's gone. Then again, I'm pretty early in the game.

A lot of the customisation is gone, and I bitched and moaned, but that alone isn't enough to turn me off from the game or really to count as a lot of the game going missing in general.

I don't think he'll hate the game, let alone murder it. And honestly, all I really care about is that his review is amusing. I can't stand the mentality where people love his shtick only until he picks on a game they like.

 

[Something Amyss]

This is the opinion on Yahtzee I dislike. Yes, he's a cynic, but he's also a pro who actually knows what he's talking about. You can't always dismiss everything he says just because he's a cynic, most of his criticism is very valid, and he's just the only person brave enough to bring it up.

And dial back the hyperbole a few degrees.

 

[Ruwrak]

This is the opinion on Yahtzee I dislike. Yes, he's a cynic, but he's also a pro who actually knows what he's talking about. You can't always dismiss everything he says just because he's a cynic, most of his criticism is very valid, and he's just the only person brave enough to bring it up.

I remember an article a while back, a discussion between Yahtzee and a Gearbox guy. Yahtzee brought up the fact that Borderlands was a boring as shit game (for numerous reasons), and the developer just laughed it off with 'oh Yahtzee, you silly cynic'. Thing was, Yahtzee was right.

I hate this type of responces. No matter what I say you're gonna rip on it anyway.

I did not say that Yathzee is bad or evil (though I'm convinced those imps came from somewhere.). What I said was that Yathzee will rip it apart, wether it's good or not.

The 'who cares' thing is not a stab, but who really buys a game because he tells you to? I know I don't. I also know I don't let any review build my opinion on a game. Why? Because fun and a 'good game' is a perspective thing. His (and your) definition of fun is not MY definition of fun. I liked / loved / enjoyed every minute in Borderlands. I honestly did. You did not apparently. What does that say? "F all" it says.

I enjoy his video's just as much as the next person but I see them as entertainment. If I am to take all of his reviews and bad points in the games seriously, I'd still be playing Tetris and Silent Hill 2 all day.

If you can't see the point I am trying to make about reviews, opinions, entertainment, individuality and freedom of opinion then you need to reasses yourself a little. Because come on.. We can't take -everything- in life serious.


Edit: He is a pro indeed, and he knows his stuff but that is not the reason I dismiss him (do I even dismiss him at all?) as a reviewer. I hope you did get that from the past post up here.

 

[ReservoirAngel]

Ummm... I think you might want to reassess what you just said there. He only likes the original 3 Prince or Persia games.

He gave 2008's Prince of Persia a recommendation. A tentative one, but he still did.

 

[karloss01]

so much of the good stuff is compeltly gone. yes its more wacky and over the top but too much that made SR2 a great game is gone, making SR3 just a "good" game.

many aspects of SR3 will appeal to him like no other game has but i feel that SR2 will seem the better overall in his eyes.

whats gone? so far i haven't seen any take-aways only improvements.

 

[Jazoni89]

If anyone actually listened to Yahtzee's opinions, no one would play anything except for Silent Hill 2 over and over again.

I would also never of played awesome games like Mirrors edge, or Valkyria Chronicles if i took Yahtzee's opinion seriously.

It's good to have your own opinion about things.

 

[Imperioratorex Caprae]

so much of the good stuff is compeltly gone. yes its more wacky and over the top but too much that made SR2 a great game is gone, making SR3 just a "good" game.

many aspects of SR3 will appeal to him like no other game has but i feel that SR2 will seem the better overall in his eyes.

I don't really know what game you're playing... Have you even done the Genki's Super Ethical Reality Climax? That not over the top enough?
The man-cannon not enough for you? (Ok if you didn't pre-order the game you're outta luck). Or the Johnny Gat bobble-head wagon that breathes fire not enough? How about parachuting into a moving plane you just jumped out of, flying through it at high speeds, grabbing another chute off some unlucky dude and flying back outside to save a friend? Not over the top?
Seriously... I've only put maybe 4 hours in the game and I had to turn it off from sensory overload... and my sides started to hurt from laughing too damn much.

 

[MaxwellEdison]

What, specifically, has been taken out?

 

[BoredRolePlayer]

Wait wait wait, you mean people read reviews to decide to buy a game or not and not based on what they feel?

 

[Zing]

I just want to know why I have to download 1.4 GB straight away even when I bought the discs. Especially retarded when it goes at 50-100 kb/s and stops all the time.